Best Motoring May 2006 - JDM RX-8, S2k, Z vs BMW M
 

M3, M5, Modded S2k, 350z, MS A-spec. About what I expected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jDqRGhQ0r0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIJbsqx0ubw

how fuckin depressing

Has there ever been a video where the RX-8 did win? (not including the A-spec revenge one..)

About what I expected. They usually compare the 8 against more powerful cars.

The RX8 only has one real disadvantage. Power. It has the handling to keep up but no where near the power.

They don't have a whole lot of choice considering the RX-8 is less powerful than most cars Best Motoring would have on their track... However, the first time they had it on it lost to less powerful cars (according the the manufacturer) in the RSX and WRX.

the rx8 lost to the civic and integra type Rs too, i guess they could try to pit it up vs integra type S and civic SI and Honda TSX....

but it does wup the hell out of the miata every time.

:rofl: the rx8 is no where to be seen...

Holy sad.

Maybe less HP but I bet both had more torque...which is the real issue not the HP.

man love how that v10 screams in the m5...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4U_Wj84XPU
Debut of the 05 Honda Integra Type R racing against a JDM WRX, Civic Type R, MR-S, Miata , RX-8, Altezza ect.

THe rx8 almost got last place lol...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llIcCowMvM4

Ouch...
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But Top Gear says the RX-8 is equal to the Z and M3 around their track, so it must be true...

Depends on the track as we all have said before. The 8 is quick. I have/do owned 2 WRXs. I owned an 8. I will own another 8 and not another WRX.

People don't like to realize there are MUCH more capaple cars on the track, for about the same money, as an RX8. The RX8 just 'looks' better, and has a better livability quotient, IMO.

Course, if I had the $ I'd trade it in w/o too much reservation. :)

whao! that rx-8 did great agains 500 hp and 360 hp cars! im impress

the rx-8 got 3rd best time? against type r cars? why not a mazdaspeed?

They were also bigger and a lot heavier... soo... they should put a FD in there to whoop ass.

they only put cars thats currently on sale

same price range?

In that case that was exactly what it was.

Its a differnt type of track. Tsukuba needs alot more power to go around it fast then the Top Gear track does. The 8 is really short on power and its obvious on the straights. He looked slow in the corners too tho. All that body kit and extra bracing my help sometimes but its just dead weight here i think. Just a few more pounds that has to be pushed by what little power it has.

i think tsukuba is as balanced a track as you can get. It has the standard straight and a curve and a bunch of technical sections. its a very short track with short straight. the 8 has better power to weight ratio, and its not detuned like the US version so it has better acceleration than the type Rs.the faster cars starts further back in BMI. im not sure if the straights helped the type Rs

In RX8's defense, i dont think it had a very good driver :p i mrsn he is a pro JGTC driver and all, but i dont think hes that good compared to gansan

does cars would have look wors racing an fd than the rx-8 did with them , normally and fd would lap tsukuba in 1:03.xxx range, even if they where bigger and heavier they had better power to weight ratio so......

you know what I find intresting is that the rx-8 was only 1 second slower than an m3

that mazdaspeed car with 40 hp more would be pure sex!

i agree. gansan is the most aggressive and probably fastest of the bm drivers.

No way in hell the a stock FD would lap Tsukuba in 1:03, it's more like 1:06-1:09 depending on model and year.

maybe im wrong, ill chek

your very wrong!

I think the fastest I've seen was 1:05.9XX once they upped it to 280ps.

i have check, the time very from 1:04.xxx to 1:05.xxx so I was wrong by one second, I did see a battle that the rx-7 did 1:03.xxx, ill check my pc when I get home

I just can't see a stock FD dropping below high 1:05s, here's the fastest I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlgmW34zeBM

1:04 around Tsukuba is supercar territory and the RX-7 had a tough enough time beating its Japanese competitors.

i have seing that video, the one im talking about had a black fd, maybe the car was not stock? I dont remenber but im sure it did 1:03.xxx

we where all wrong, the knights sport was the one that did it in 1:03.xxx, but the RX-7 type RS did it in 1:04.888

acording to these # the ms8 its capable of turning almost the same lap time as the m3 cls

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...kuba+lap+times

it is amazing how much info its in this forum!

I think rx8club should stick with rx8's instead of m3's and FD's lol...

not with 40 hp more :yumyum:

Nice link but how do you come to that conclusion?

mazdaspeed RX-8 1:08,70
BMW m3 1:08,28

very similar only 1/2 a second, but there may be a better time for the m3 that i just dont remenber about

actually I like the way they use to display lap times, each lap time was display at the end of the race that way you can juge what happen, and how good was the driver

I'm not sure if there is a better time for the M3 or not but half a second on a small track like that isn't almost the same in my eyes. Also keep in mind the RX-8 is on near R compound tires and the M3 is on lower performance stock tires.

your right , but thats how the ms8 used to come from the factory, but if we get into that the rx-8 also has racing suspencion and other things, but the m3 has a much better power to weight ratio

If mazda had any balls the rx-8 would be on par with cars that cost much more, sometimes I get so piss of at them :wallbash: , but then I go to my drive way, and love them for what they have made for me to enjoy :D:

Mazda does have balls, but they know the rx8 wouldnt sell if it had too much balls stock... soo..

nobody wants too much balls, thats a lot of $$$$, just 40 more hp, thats all

Dont forget torque. I'd rather have 40 more lb-ft of tq than hp.

i wouldn't mind having the car 300 lbs lighter!! i just lost 15lbs so i have 285lbs to go!

OK.. youre just talking out of your ass.

lets say 40 hp and 30 lbft?

I would rather see the RX8 with 200+ft/lbs of torque than 270ish hp.

My son will be driving in three years and will get my 8 and then I will be driving a fast two seated rear wheel drive car. I want an S2000 or Elise so bad.

Nice vids, nothing surprising about them, so why the negative comments.

Vid one against M5/M3/350Z/S2000, yes the 8 lost but the S2000 was fully modded with 270hp, while the 8 had stock power. Still stayed within a sec. of the M3 and 350. Don't forget when Top Gear matched 8 times vs. a 350Z, the Z it was the original lower power non-"track" model. And did anyone really expect the 8 to beat a 500hp M5?

Vid two against a WRX/Civic R/IntegraR/etc. showed the other cars with specs not even available here. A 220hp 2600 pound civic? A 250hp WRX? Still, the 8 still had faster times than all but the R's.