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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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9.5" rims on the front ...nice!

Nice to see, that the 8 can handle 9.5" in the front.....





I wonder if this guy is a member of the RX8club? The 8 looks nice with deep dish rims in the front and back, accents the fender flares nicely.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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yah i really like those wheels.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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What do you think that does for the handling of the car?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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Wow. Nice looking.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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infact you can even fit 10's in the back with the correct offset..
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nranly
What do you think that does for the handling of the car?

It probally makes the 8 nuetral again, same width rims/tires. With a staggered setup , it promotes understeer when the 8 or any car that didn't come from the factory with a staggered setup as factory spec. But if you drive your car everyday and not on a track, you will hardly notice any diffrence from a stock setup. I noticed it one time when i was doing 83 mph on a 35 mph onramp, the onramp that i use time and time again to begin my morning commute, the front started to push inwards a little with my staggered setup.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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looks good
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
infact you can even fit 10's in the back with the correct offset..
yep i have 10 on the back.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Quite a few people have 9.5in all around. I'll be doing the same as soon as the rims come to the US. These do look good though.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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sooo heavy.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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sooo heavy.
Knew that was coming. Not convinced bout this heavyness debate. I mean if the rims weight 10 pounds more than stock all the way around and the driver weighs 40 pounds less than me on my light stock setup. Aren't we even anyway??

Not convinced with this staggered = heavy nonsense. Just dont think it matters. Staggered = Effect on steering? That, I buy, but the weight issue is a moot point for me for the reason I stated above...

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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can u guys tell me wats staggered mean
wats offset of the rims should be cuz im plannin on buyin new rims
wats offset
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by time4akshun
Knew that was coming. Not convinced bout this heavyness debate. I mean if the rims weight 10 pounds more than stock all the way around and the driver weighs 40 pounds less than me on my light stock setup. Aren't we even anyway??

Not convinced with this staggered = heavy nonsense. Just dont think it matters. Staggered = Effect on steering? That, I buy, but the weight issue is a moot point for me for the reason I stated above...

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actually you're going to have to a little bit more research there. There is a difference in sprung weight and unsprung weight. There are plenty of articles/tests posted in the wheels/suspension section that is stickied.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by time4akshun
Knew that was coming. Not convinced bout this heavyness debate. I mean if the rims weight 10 pounds more than stock all the way around and the driver weighs 40 pounds less than me on my light stock setup. Aren't we even anyway??

Not convinced with this staggered = heavy nonsense. Just dont think it matters. Staggered = Effect on steering? That, I buy, but the weight issue is a moot point for me for the reason I stated above...

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You should really try driving the same car with heavy rims and lightweight rims. I drove IzzI's car when he had his stock rims, and when he got some lightweight rims, and I could feel a pretty big difference. Car felt much lighter. I don't know how changing to a staggered set up would effect handling, but the car was not build for it, so I'd leave it the same on all 4 wheels unless you're purely going for looks.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Staggered = Diferent wheel sizes front and rear (9.5 wide front, 10 rear) also 17" diameter front 18" diameter rear is considered staggered.

Unsprung weight vs sprung weight:
Unsprung weight is anything north of the suspension (wheels, tires, brake calipers, control arms, away bars, ect.) This weight does not ger transfered as the car's balance changes therefore it's dead weight on the car at all times.

think of it this way: how easy was it to lift the front wheel of your old bicycle, spin it and stop it with one finger. Now try doing it with a motorciycle wheel, then try doing it with your car's wheels. Get the point.

oh yea, and search on the suspension threads. there is a LOT of good stuff on wheels, ofsets, and how they affect our cars handling.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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staggered set up adds more weight to the back. and in the case of handling, stagger gives more grip to the rear because of the wider tires. in our car, it will cause more understeer.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by time4akshun
Knew that was coming. Not convinced bout this heavyness debate. I mean if the rims weight 10 pounds more than stock all the way around and the driver weighs 40 pounds less than me on my light stock setup. Aren't we even anyway??

Not convinced with this staggered = heavy nonsense. Just dont think it matters. Staggered = Effect on steering? That, I buy, but the weight issue is a moot point for me for the reason I stated above...

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they said what i was going to say.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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nice not a fan of those axis wheels
staggered is the ****
20x9 & 20x10 for the Haters!!
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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This guy is definetely a member of the boards, he goes by ToM18nY...
He says they are 20x9 front, 20x10 rear... As opposed to 9.5's in the front, but whatever...
He's got a pretty sweet system in there too

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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cant wait till everyone moves on to new cars in 10 yrs.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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curious who that comment is to ?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5
It probally makes the 8 nuetral again, same width rims/tires. With a staggered setup , it promotes understeer when the 8 or any car that didn't come from the factory with a staggered setup as factory spec. But if you drive your car everyday and not on a track, you will hardly notice any diffrence from a stock setup. I noticed it one time when i was doing 83 mph on a 35 mph onramp, the onramp that i use time and time again to begin my morning commute, the front started to push inwards a little with my staggered setup.
Try adding a little more castor to balance it out. Castor changes the weight jacking a bit as it pushes the inside tire down and lifts the outside tire up a bit - that tends to offset the front sway bar a bit and takes a bit of weight off the inside rear. With Ltd Slip it reduces the binding on the back tires. Binding is what happens when a live (or semi-live with a Ltd Slip) axle goes through a turn. The flip side is over about 100 MPH or so the front end will feel a bit twitchier. Probably not too bad on a long wheelbase car like the RX8.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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10 years? never! i'm not selling.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Neither am I!!... RX for life!

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10 years? never! i'm not selling.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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lol we'll see .
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