IIRC, didn't they say the same thing about the Mazdaspeed 6 back in 2002.......

I wouldn't read too much into that statement. Of course that particular car isn't for sale, it's a concept/study car. But Mazda must have something up their sleeve, they just aren't ready to "officially" announce things yet.

If Mazda is going to make an AWD Mazdaspeed 6 with 270hp. They are going to have come out with a Supercharged 8, other wise very few people will buy an 8. They just wouldnt make any sense.

The 8 will still weigh about 400-500 lbs less then the Mazdaspeed 6...all that body cladding, AWD drivetrain, "bonus options" adds up really fast weight wise. And as most of you know, weight is a big part of performance.

Thats why those old damn civics dominate the crap outta the autox circuit. 120 hp sure isn't alot...but when your car weighs 1700 lbs it is :).

Sorry about the repost, I had actually read that thread before but never the first page so I did not know it originated from the same article. We had the mag on the shelves yesterday even though it doesn't come out until the 26th (?) It really doesn't go that in-depth but it will make you drool and you will probably have trouble sleeping at night from the excitement it will cause (hoodscoop + supercharger = mmmmmmmmm). There was also a two or three page article on RX-8 race cars. Anybody got a scanner cause I don't...

no worries kc- merged yours with this.:)

Hey Guys, Read the new speed mag today,good article.. They say it's a Eaton supercharger w/ intercooler feed from the hood scoop. You have to see this hood scoop it looks to me like they cut the existing design curve out and replaced it with this layin scoop.
The power seems alittle lower then I thought should be, at 275bhp and 200lb torque, But I bet we can tweak it alittle..

Also I like how thay did the back spoiler, it's silmilar to my mazdaspeed spoiler but without the bottom piece that goes across the whole trunk. And the the rear bumper changed I like it.The front bumper, fog lights and side rocker panel change , and I like..

It's a good article, of course there's never enough info for me on this subject.

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Yes, but remember that the MazdaSpeed line of cars has been limited to very small production #'s. So I speculate that the MazdaSpeed-6 will follow this same thinking. I'm sure that a MazdaSpeed-3 is not far either.

-Bern

i still think that mazda is moving in a different direction with mazda than most people think. imo they are moving towards a different mazdaspeed than people are used to. i see them expanding Mazdaspeed into a second "brand" like honda/acura, toyota/lexus etc but with an emphasis on peformance intstead of luxury. i believe this next batch of Mazdaspeed cars will be less " limited production" than in the past.

I think the MS3 will be sweet.

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We'll make sure it gets over to the Mazda folks who need to see it. Public pressure does wonders to move things! :D

-Berny

The problem with OEM Hi-po (MazdaSpeed in this case) versions is usually the emissions standards that an automotive company has to deal with in the USA. There are emission tier quotas that the companies must meet in order to be able to sell higher emissions vehicles, and Mazda unfortunately does not have a small entry level SUPER DUPER LOW EMISSIONS, SUPER HIGH VOLUME selling vehicle to be able to offset a high production run of hi-po versions. This is an unfortunate (depending on how you look at it) reality of producing and selling cars in the USA. Just my take from being exposed to the auto industry some....

-Bern

My understanding is that some of the "concept prototypes" are handling better than a stock FD and are almost as fast! :eek:

-Bern

Sweet!!!!! Actually that kinda sucks. Now 3's are going to be faster then 8's. Thats just not right.

no doubt the 3 is a sweet machine and the MS3 will only be sweeter:) and bern while hi-performance does include higher power there are other things. for instance a truck with better off-road capabilites( i think the aussies said something like this too) anyway just an idea. although they have already stolen my ideas in the past so they will probably steal this one. ;):)

I understand the "hi-po" term and the many ramifications of its meaning, thanks. I wasn't trying to get into semantics here, though. This was just a general term I recklessly bandied about for the purpose of this specific discussion, and hopefully it was understood in this context. I didn't mean to cause any international confusion! :confused: That's why I specifically tried to state, in parenthesis, that this was in particular to the MazdaSpeed discussion. I will try and use a more specific term in future discussions and topics! :p

So zoom44, "Hi-po" (high performance), per your experience here on this forum = expanded cabalities beyond OEM, in any sphere of automotive performance, correct?

Always looking to learn and understand! ;)

Cheers,

-Bern

this thread seems to have absorbed many other sub-topics, can whomever purchased the magazine maybe just post some pics ? thanks.

shaddup bern:)!! you know i wasnt trying to argue semantics with you. or teach you anything. i wouldnt dare;)i just wanted to explain that i didnt mean just power/speed to the other folks:) and im not answering your question because i think you are trying to trick me into saying soemthing you can use against me later:p

Just messing with you my man!!!! you caught me!!! :D

Now where is that heck is that SPEED story?!?!?! Some one post it already! I wanna see Mitani's article... I tried to get a preview but no dice!


Off topic... funny story on Mitani. We were waiting at an airport, after a press deal once, and the airport security at check-in searched him like he was Usama Bin Laden himself.... shoes, luggage opened, everything... I thought they were going to cavity search him!!! :) it pissed him off to the Nth degree!!!! and I just strolled through. and all this that we were at small regional airport getting on a commuter flight :D Even the big boys have bad days!


-Bern

It's out now! I just picked up a copy from Barnes & Noble. Definitely worth the money and agree with all the people who wrote in to the editor for support.

Without further ado, here are the scans. Sorry for the partitioning. It's the only way to zoom in to the details and still fit into the size requirements. There are 11 pics altogether. Please wait until the upload is complete before posting.

Part 2:

Final scan from the article. Enjoy! :)

as my buddy shaggy would say " ZOIKS!!!!!" :eek:

The last article in #196 says only 250hp and 165lb-ft! I can't see how the performance gain is so signifigant unless the stock hp number is around 200.