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Jarred 10-18-2004 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Willow Springs is in the US. This is a Mazda North American Operations car.

is it going to be made here? that would be surprising.

Nemesis8 10-18-2004 12:18 AM

Who knows where it will be built. It may never become a factory production car. Right now it's a one off concept car.

RX-Hachi 10-18-2004 01:26 AM

Mazda's R&D center in Irvine CA helped to design the Miata, 3rd gen RX-7, RX-8, and many other Mazda cars. Just because the car is designed in the US, doesn't mean it will be made here. Most likely Hiroshima.

But Mazda also likes to have these friendly bake offs between their various divisions. We've seen the Austrailian effort announced, next comes the US version, for all we know there's another version being developed in Japan. Mazda may then take the best effort or parts of each and craft the final version.

bern 10-18-2004 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Mazda's R&D center in Irvine CA helped to design the Miata, 3rd gen RX-7, RX-8, and many other Mazda cars. Just because the car is designed in the US, doesn't mean it will be made here. Most likely Hiroshima.

But Mazda also likes to have these friendly bake offs between their various divisions. We've seen the Austrailian effort announced, next comes the US version, for all we know there's another version being developed in Japan. Mazda may then take the best effort or parts of each and craft the final version.

This is true, but the friendly bake-offs are usually only for new full production models, not Hi-Po versions of existing models. The Autralians have always had a penchant for creating Hi-Po models prior to other parts of the world. They created the limted edition Bathurst FD's and they also did a limited run of turbo MX-5 (miatas) before the MS Miatas here in the states.

The reality of this RX-8, is that it's a study for MazdaSpeed NORTH AMERICA.... not unlike the MazdaSpeed Protege program. :)

-Bern

Nemesis8 10-19-2004 11:41 AM

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How about some larger images? I know there is already one posted in this thread, but look at these - same grainy exposure blown up a little. :p

Where's the driver?

another8owner 10-19-2004 11:48 AM

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heres the cover of the new magazine. now there are 3 pics.

davefzr 10-19-2004 12:21 PM

sweet..... I cant wait until this comes out.. thankx for posting.

RX-Hachi 10-19-2004 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by another8owner
heres the cover of the new magazine. now there are 3 pics.

Yes, but still 3 very tiny pics. Thanks for finding the cover. I think it's a little clearer from the cover pic, if one zooms in, that the rear wing is different and not the current MS one at its highest setting.

Feras 10-19-2004 03:07 PM

i think i wanna get smoked lenses on my 8 now! rx-7 style

penman 10-19-2004 03:55 PM

Please please please please let this get released as a warranty approved MS kit.

please.

please (this last one is from my car, she wants a supercharger...)

Fanman 10-19-2004 11:40 PM

I bought the magazine today. They are claiming about (estimated) 275 hp & 200 lb.-ft. of torque, and .5 sec. faster than stock. They strapped 245/35/19's on the front & 275/30/19's on the back. WOW ! They tested it at Streets of Willow which is about 1 1/2 hrs. from LA. I driven it, and it is a great track.

I actually asked Jim Mederer if they have tested any FI'ed on the RX8, and he graciously told me that they had a SC'ed Renesis. I asked him how much they were getting, and he told me about 285 hp. No problems.

Nemesis8 10-19-2004 11:43 PM

Fanman rules! We are not worthy...

What make of tire I wonder? Those are huge sizes. :p

So Jim had his own SC8? Or is this the same one?

davefzr 10-19-2004 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by Fanman
I bought the magazine today. They are claiming about (estimated) 275 hp & 200 lb.-ft. of torque, and .5 sec. faster than stock. They strapped 245/35/19's on the front & 275/30/19's on the back. WOW ! They tested it at Streets of Willow which is about 1 1/2 hrs. from LA. I driven it, and it is a great track.

I actually asked Jim Mederer if they have tested any FI'ed on the RX8, and he graciously told me that they had a SC'ed Renesis. I asked him how much they were getting, and he told me about 285 hp. No problems.

No problems? Why the heck are they not producing it then?

They would have so many customers and be first to market....?

An8inLAS 10-20-2004 02:58 AM

.5 second faster? That's it? The question now becomes at what cost would the kit be to get the .5 second faster speed and would a big wad of $ be worth this improvement?

Nemesis8 10-20-2004 08:04 AM

It's the torque we are after - right? that's almost a 20% increase

philodox 10-20-2004 08:43 AM

I've been trying to find this darn magazine, but nobody sells it... is it availible in the US? I looked so far at Borders Books and Barnes & Noble.. but they haven't heard of it.. the only place that has something called Speed is amazon, and that's $63 for 6 issues because it's an aussie publication.

foxman 10-20-2004 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Fanman
I bought the magazine today. They are claiming about (estimated) 275 hp & 200 lb.-ft. of torque, and .5 sec. faster than stock.

This is 0-60 or 1/4 mile?

DreRX8 10-20-2004 09:49 AM

.5 sec is a decent improvement-- 14.0sec to 13.5 sec or 5.5sec to 5.0sec--also we don't know how the car is launched--if it is a .5sec improvement with a standard launch and not a 8,000 rpm drop then that is remarkable.

murix 10-20-2004 10:02 AM

Sounds pretty much like what Petit did for improvent also. Falls in line with the Blitz kit too.

When I hear .5 I think 1/4 mile. Is this correct? Something like a 13.9? The big question is price and possible release as factory approved. Also curious about dyno curve and redline. All these superchargers put the power right about where I think it should be, but I am not so sure about paying $5k. If it was emissions legal in California and factory quality I would consider it a lot more though.

An8inLAS 10-20-2004 10:09 AM

$5k for .5 second and 20 ft lbs of torque? Me thinks that is verrry near the point of diminishing returns.

Nemesis8 10-20-2004 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by An8inLAS
$5k for .5 second and 20 ft lbs of torque? Me thinks that is verrry near the point of diminishing returns.

Who said anything about $5K? There is no price for the MS setup. The $5K myth about the Pettit kit is wrong also. They are quoting $3.6K for their low boost setup.

And how do you know where your current torque is? I thought we were at 159 ft. @ 5500 RPM. Thats 200 - 159 = 41 ft lbs more not 20.

adrian-1 10-20-2004 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Nemesis8
It's the torque we are after - right? that's almost a 20% increase

He probably didn't read your earlier response correctly. 20% increase in torque.

adrian-1 10-20-2004 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Fanman
I bought the magazine today.

Hey Fanman, do you have access to a scanner?

snizzle 10-20-2004 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by philodox
I've been trying to find this darn magazine, but nobody sells it... is it availible in the US? I looked so far at Borders Books and Barnes & Noble.. but they haven't heard of it.. the only place that has something called Speed is amazon, and that's $63 for 6 issues because it's an aussie publication.

yeah where can you get this thing? I've been looking around as well and I can't find it.....

I was hoping for 300 HP but nonetheless, i'm still excited

Nemesis8 10-20-2004 11:17 AM

It is supposed to be available on news stands right next to the regular issue of Road & Track on Oct. 26th. Fanman got a copy early somehow.


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