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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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^I think they will look at the engines to make sure that everythings within spec...
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by missinmahseven
*sigh*

so MT at risk, and if so, how much?

So are hard-driven MT cars at risk? I don't use synth, just dino-juice*



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well.....I drive an MT....use regular oil and live in a colder climate....2 engine failures. This is why I think that this is all bullshit. I can't understand why they don;t come out with the real reason unless they really don't know. Both my failures have been different but of course you can't get a straight answer out of the dealership.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Now it's hit the wire.. found this on google news. Clicko el Linko

It's the same text posted at the head of this thread. The main wires should pick up on it quite soon.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by whatisapiston
Why would you not want a new motor? Especially the people who are getting near 70k miles. Regardless if its a new motor or not, if there is a problem with it, they are obligated to fix it. So whats the big deal? And for the people who have turbos, doesnt installing an induction system totally void all warranty work related to the motor? Figured a recall was for warranted cars but i dunno.
I think you are missing the point. A remanufactured engine is not new, you said that yourself. It may have new seals, but the rotors (not that big a deal most of the time), housings, eccentric shaft, etc...are all re-used parts. RG's post went into this, but housings have varying tolerances. If I tore down and rebuilt my 33K engine, my housings still have 33K of wear. My rebuilt engine still has lesser life than a new engine with new housings. I don't want someone elses old housings, I either want brand new housings - which I'm guessing I'm not going to get. If I'm going to get an unknown engine, with housings in God knows what condition, I'll take my current engine that has been trouble free and not worry about all this.

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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The question I have is, what is involved in a remanufactured engine? Rotor Housing, Apex Seals, Side Seals, Corner Seals, Metering Rods, other? Or would it just be rebuilt and the "Bad" parts be inspected and replaced? Do our engines have the VIN number stamped on them?
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Good news is most of you will only need the inspection and maybe some spark plugs. Hot weather climates may experience more engine issues.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Just spoke to my good friend at Mazda, He said that its mostly 8's in hot weather areas and becuse many 8 owners are not driving them hard. Carbon buld up is a factor. He said this could be it for mazda with the rotary! His words.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
Good news is most of you will only need the inspection and maybe some spark plugs. Hot weather climates may experience more engine issues.
...and a reflash, correct?
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
Good news is most of you will only need the inspection and maybe some spark plugs. Hot weather climates may experience more engine issues.
so we could be sent on our merry way in hopes our engine may pop one sunny day?.....unacceptable.....really how many days does the average rx-8 owner have to be without thier car?.....i can tell you i know my service writers wife and kids names by now!....im not one to complain but this is getting rediculous now....i pay allot on a monthly basis so i can have a unique and beautiful sports car.....not so once a month i get to drive a neon for a few days!
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Was in the shop not long ago..... and I got the CA flash and compression check (but not this recall). The failure mode as I understood from my dealer tech was a steady long use of mid rpms at part throttle...I guess like a looooooonnng interstate trip at steady cruise. The metering pump didn't provide sufficient oil to keep compression up in that particular mode, so the car slowly lost power and eventually lost compression and slowed down and wouldn't go fast any longer.

This was not my symptom, just no power, and it was my cat and coils, in the end. I rarely cruise, just... mostly l spin to 9k as much as possible, using oil in the process, which I dutifully replace (dino oil only).

I wonder if they'll want to test me again? I wonder if engines will be in short supply? I like my Japanese engine and don't really want an American one (unless it makes more HP!)

My feeling is the latest flash I got slowed the car down somewhat, unfortunately.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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I live in NM where it can be very hot. I spoke with one 8 owner that moved here from east coast and he is on his third new engine due to heat related issues, which seem to be in the potential recall. I have bypassed the coolant to throttle body to help assist with heat management. Crappy and/or low octane gas will create vapor lock more easily in the hot states as well. I keep octane boost with me at all times. I do not run synthetic. But know many that do. Very important to keep oil full and not wait for the idiot 1qt low light. Be interesting on how many are affected. Thanks for posting this!

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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So whose down for a kamakaze run through Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas at with cruise control on at 50mph in 6th gear?
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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How's that a kamikaze run?
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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I have to drive from Virginia to Massachusetts in three weeks. Does this mean I shouldn't use cruise control in order to protect my engine? That's going to suck.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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i really hope that my car will pass the vaccuum test and i get to keep my ORIGINAL motor

if it ain't broke don't fix it, that saying sounds about perfect right now

<---- 39900 miles, NO Grp IV oil, ever, several track days, runs strong as a bull
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
How's that a kamikaze run?
More like Seppuku.

Blue Sky: your post has been duly noted by MNAO.

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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How's that a kamikaze run?

kill the engine and get a new one?
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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I cruise at 50 all the time. But I redline a few times a day as well.

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sheba
Just spoke to my good friend at Mazda, He said that its mostly 8's in hot weather areas and becuse many 8 owners are not driving them hard. Carbon buld up is a factor. He said this could be it for mazda with the rotary! His words.

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Actually, I use cruise control every day. And I redline it at least once every day. But when I cruise daily, it is normally for only 10-20 miles, not for hours on end.

It will be very interesting to see how my engine does in this test. My perception is that it runs just as strong today as it ever has.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
The question I have is, what is involved in a remanufactured engine? Rotor Housing, Apex Seals, Side Seals, Corner Seals, Metering Rods, other? Or would it just be rebuilt and the "Bad" parts be inspected and replaced? Do our engines have the VIN number stamped on them?
All of the housings, irons, rotors, bearings, and the eccentric shaft are checked to make sure wear levels are within spec. There is a range in which it is fine to use. My concern is that they will build an engine using parts that are at or near the tolerable limit of "fine" and that use as a "new" engine will send it over this in short order. Any of these parts not found to be within acceptable limits are thrown away. Seals are all new. In the past, Mazda has put a remanufactured tag on the engine somewhere to denote it not being an original.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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I remember a post from Judge Ito some time ago regarding premature wear of the side seals resulting in a loss of compression. He claimed then that there was some type of engineering flaw in the engine. This is probably unrelated, but you never know.
Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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I just got my car 2 weeks ago I sure as **** better not have to get a new engine. I don't expect to come in for a recall until mine fails or warranty is about to expire.

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