RevTo9K

If I understood zoom right in the Flash News Flash thread, high-revving increases the amount of oil injected and averts the problem. It's the low-rpm cruisers that are getting oil-starved.

j9fd3s

how? its not out for another couple weeks

LostAngel

It may not be a recall for a few weeks...but most dealers have it...and are updating people.

Tirminyl

Uh, no. That is a stern no.

mysql101

AFAIK the higher oil injection flash has been used in cars for months. I had it done last month.

j9fd3s

there are 4 tests, each one takes roughly an hour. theres a short drive test, a vacuum test, another drive test (drive part is like 8 minutes), and then another test.

mazda gave us a heads up on this one, its kinda comprehensive for a recall.

mysql101

Do you know this for a fact, or just pulling it out your ***? (I'm being serious).

Because recalls are done regardless of warranty.

j9fd3s

oh ok, so that must be what they changed on the newer non recalled cars?

zoom44

merged the two threads. devious they ar eusign a new tool to test teh vacuum that the techs got training on last week. it wouldnt matter what vacuum you tested your self at because your number and theirs would be different. they will use this electronic solenoid thingy (sorry i dont have specs for the tool... yet) and it will spit back a number that is conmpaired to a chart which has altitude and temp or somethign as its X,Ys and if the number falls in the wrong place on the chart you get a new engine.

j9fd3s

its a regional problem, apparently high heat, low humidity areas are the problem. in the SF bay area, we havent seen any of the problems they are talking about

if its a little over the warranty period, mazda is able to still cover it, but its their option, so they will look at where, and when you've had the services done, and things like that. it is their option though, so ask nicely

saturn

Survey controversy, capsized ship, and a recall all within a month of each other. It must suck to be Jeremy Barnes right now.

Tirminyl

Im pulling it out my ***. Though if the recall is for "oil leaks", lack of oil lubrication, etc., do you really think they will look at a car that has a turbo on it? It is an aftermarket kit and not a factory produced car. If your car did fail their test, would it not be contributed to by the turbo?

Imp

Would injecting more oil take away from the performance of the car any more?

I ask because I only auto-x the car. I bought it in '04, & I think the last flash I had was the M flash sometime early last year. That's the last time the car has been in the dealer. I guess if I get the recall, I'll bring it in to get it updated (like I would have a choice). High revs? Check. Colder climate? Check. Already paid for a new battery (can I be re-imbursed)? Only 14.5K on the odo.

In the back of my head I keep thinking that all the flashes take away a bit more performance from the car.... that I don't want to go away for obvious reasons. Anyone have any input on this?

--kC

devious12

Thanks for the info, now I know not to waste my time trying to get a number myself. Funny because I heard this rumor over 1 month ago, and now it's starting to be reveiled.

8is>enuff

What are the odds of getting a look at the chart they use to determine the "acceptable" range?

Also, if the vacuum test goung to vary with RPMs (like the compression test), have the accounted for the upgraded starters, i.e. higher cranking RPMs?

mysql101

Exacty - which is why I asked


They are good to have, and if past flashes are any indication, they will usually help give you more power, better idle, etc. This one gives you better lubrication.

Tirminyl

I don't believe it will. It is a safety measure that most do when racing their car on a full time schedule. Just making sure the engine is being lubricated as it should. Especially in a high performance enviroment.

chrism

umm.....devious....you thought i was crazy!

tiggerlee

I wonder if he'll get hazardous duty pay?

rkostolni

If this is a recall, as opposed to a TSB, then I the turbo might not be an automatic disqualifier.

zoom44

and me pestering him about Mazda's bsegment plans

Tirminyl

I know. Just want to make sure people keep that in mind. Even though the dealer wont touch it, it will be noted, and could be denied. I would hate to see someone be denied for something legitimately wrong with the engine that isn't caused by the aftermarket part. But something as extreme as FI could be.

devious12

I did believe that something was going to happen, I didn't expect you to be right on target!

I gotta call you to see if you're going to that exotic car show. Oh and on a side note... so much for me selling my 8, gonna have a hard time getting rid of it after that recall comes out!

zoom44

you are already a recall behind. they'll have 2 (well 3 really to check you for the control arm)to do. the newer flash is nicer thanthe M.

expo1

I guess with 72,000 miles and no problems this doesn't apply to me??