Mazda Announces 2006 RX-8 Details
01-07-2006, 07:38 PM
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Dynos don't tell the whole story.
The new 3rd gen Miata is also getting poor dyno results. Mazda claims the ECU is the reason. Yet the new Miata performs about the same as the 2nd gen Turbo Mazdaspeed Miata, which typically dynos at 20+ more hp to the wheels vs. the 3rd gen Miata. Mazda has stated that the RX-8 is difficult to dyno too, this thread explains why.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/does-explain-dyno-problem-46195/
Many folks still think its BS, that's fine. Me, I'm going to enjoy my car.
The new 3rd gen Miata is also getting poor dyno results. Mazda claims the ECU is the reason. Yet the new Miata performs about the same as the 2nd gen Turbo Mazdaspeed Miata, which typically dynos at 20+ more hp to the wheels vs. the 3rd gen Miata. Mazda has stated that the RX-8 is difficult to dyno too, this thread explains why.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/does-explain-dyno-problem-46195/
Many folks still think its BS, that's fine. Me, I'm going to enjoy my car.
01-08-2006, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Aspire705
What kinda dynos we talkin about here? We're talkin about the diff. from advertised crank hp/tq to wheel hp/tq bein b/w 7 - 15% right?
Cuz I'm pretty sure ur #s are waaaayyy off from wut MOST enthusiasts are getting for MOST cars on MOST dynos under MOST conditions. Actually, I've never even heard of or seen an example of any production vehicle dynoing within less that 15% of its advertised chp.
Can you post a link showing such an example? Or how about a link to that graph? Mind sharing where this data came from? Cuz if you can prove that assumption, I'll revoke any thoughts I've ever had about pursuing any career in the automotive field. I hope ur right tho...wouldn't want to diminish your credibility or nething.
Cuz I'm pretty sure ur #s are waaaayyy off from wut MOST enthusiasts are getting for MOST cars on MOST dynos under MOST conditions. Actually, I've never even heard of or seen an example of any production vehicle dynoing within less that 15% of its advertised chp.
Can you post a link showing such an example? Or how about a link to that graph? Mind sharing where this data came from? Cuz if you can prove that assumption, I'll revoke any thoughts I've ever had about pursuing any career in the automotive field. I hope ur right tho...wouldn't want to diminish your credibility or nething.
that's because they're on one of those worthless drum roller dynos, which are notorious for wheel slippage, alignment issues, etc.
You have to use a Dynapak or Rototest dyno that bolts onto the drive hubs and eliminates all the error BS
the graph is from Rototest, a well know swedish dyno manufacturer, maybe you should go flip burgers at McDonald's or something
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=588
http://www.rototest.com/
01-08-2006, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
no the delay was caused by use of the factory for other vehicles, excess 2005s in the states and issues stemming from the low power engines seizing up in Vegas etc.
like I said, it will be interesting to see how the 2006's dyno in comparison
01-08-2006, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
that's because they're on one of those worthless drum roller dynos, which are notorious for wheel slippage, alignment issues, etc.
You have to use a Dynapak or Rototest dyno that bolts onto the drive hubs and eliminates all the error BS
the graph is from Rototest, a well know swedish dyno manufacturer, maybe you should go flip burgers at McDonald's or something
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=588
http://www.rototest.com/
You have to use a Dynapak or Rototest dyno that bolts onto the drive hubs and eliminates all the error BS
the graph is from Rototest, a well know swedish dyno manufacturer, maybe you should go flip burgers at McDonald's or something
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=588
http://www.rototest.com/
I won't contest you on this. If that's wut your experience has taught you, that's fine. I'll jus save my examples that support my opinion for myself & not try to "convince" you they're right. You're prolly right and apparently mostly Mazdas appear to have issues when dyno'd as compared to the large majority of makes out there w/ vehicles whose drivetrain losses appear to support my opinion.
I guess you Mazda guys are special or sumthin.
Oh & ur comment about my future career placement is cute. 
Real cute! 
01-08-2006, 10:04 AM
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So you ask a simple question,
& this is wut you get:
So much for an open area of discussion right? I'm sure this forum's growin on newbies & the like the longer they're here. Thanx to you who've contributed to this.
Originally Posted by aspire705
So you still don't think this new system is wrong when it comes to the TL?
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
that's because they're on one of those worthless drum roller dynos, which are notorious for wheel slippage, alignment issues, etc.
You have to use a Dynapak or Rototest dyno that bolts onto the drive hubs and eliminates all the error BS
the graph is from Rototest, a well know swedish dyno manufacturer, maybe you should go flip burgers at McDonald's or something
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...7&postcount=588
http://www.rototest.com/
You have to use a Dynapak or Rototest dyno that bolts onto the drive hubs and eliminates all the error BS
the graph is from Rototest, a well know swedish dyno manufacturer, maybe you should go flip burgers at McDonald's or something
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...7&postcount=588
http://www.rototest.com/
01-08-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
I really don't know who cooks the bullshit at MNAO but I know the real number for the manual's rating is closer to 212 which ironically is the rating of the new automatic. But for those of you who can still buy the bullshit all these years and believe that the manual loses 20% or more at the drivetrain, then the number that makes sense realistically is 225hp. The 232 figure isn't too far off from that so you can see how they can get away with that new number.
01-08-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Aspire705
So you ask a simple question,
& this is wut you get:
So much for an open area of discussion right? I'm sure this forum's growin on newbies & the like the longer they're here. Thanx to you who've contributed to this.
& this is wut you get:
So much for an open area of discussion right? I'm sure this forum's growin on newbies & the like the longer they're here. Thanx to you who've contributed to this.
please drop the personal BS and stay on track with the thread subject, if your career choice is an issue then you shouldn't have served it up in the first place because it has no bearing on the subject matter, not to mention I was only kidding with you
It certainly didn't deserve two response posts.
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