nycgps

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I have a friend who is really close to knight sports Japan, hook me up so I can get a chance to get real close to the Actual Race Car(access to Race team area, not open for public access) oh man that car was such bad ***.




After last year's "experience", they fine tuned the car even more, and they're using single exit exhaust this time. they already won last year's group champion. was hoping to win in the placement too. but sadly this pathetic GT-R who crashed last year, for some weird reason. when the race start it had some sort of issue and crash right into the Knight Sport's Rx-8 that was about to pass him. see the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYBZ2SyA5I

See? the R35 just crash right into the Rx-8 for no reason. Mechanical failure maybe? cuz there is really no reason to steer the car on a straight thats going into a left corner. mine u that same Gt-R crashed last year too. not as bad as this year tho. I saw the whole thing in person and it looks like that GT-R is totaled.

and the Knight Sport's RX-8 ... I don't know. the damage was pretty serious. sad to see it in person.



I only have pics of the right side, the left side's damage was really bad. rear wheel was gone. so much damage. ahh, the whole team was really sad.

j_tso

Such a shame.

I watched the video on mzracing.jp from last year's Macau GP, quite an awesome car.

Roidz

Sweet car, too bad it got run into.

TALAN7

The only shame is how Mazda can get power out of the 8 when racing but can't seem to get it onto the street. Mazda needs to bring more of their race tech regarding the rotary to the street, ie, turbo

nycgps

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if u pay attention to the first pic u will know that they're using 13B-REW as their powerhouse, not 13B-MSP.

the sound of the engine is incredible ! u can tell those ported p-port are really big and the tune is very stable/good (very consistence exhaust sound)

they were talking about bringing another car to the track next year, most likely the FD, biggest reason? its much cheaper to get parts for that car than Rx-8. I guess this crash will give them a very good reason to do it next year.

Salamanth

That 8 isn't even running a RX-8 (RENESIS) engine, It's running a 13B-REW. IE an FD engine. And that's not Mazda built either... so fail all around on your statement

Some people just really need to sit back and look at how well the RX-8 has been engineered. Name me one other street car that has such a finely tuned intake system that delivers the best broad power band?

Yes, more power can be extracted by going turbo, but how many people would have been willing to pay another $8-10k EASY for the turbo system? Not to mention the difficulty in getting it through emissions testing with a snail.

Mazda did an amazing job with the RX-8, people need to get over it and move on.

(Apologies in advance TALAN, I've had it with people talking smack about the 8 and Mazda in general)

8 Maniac

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Most race teams expect to regularly rebuild engines. Most typical car owners don't. It is possible for Mazda to slap a turbo on the rotary and call it a day, but they have to be careful so that it's actually very reliable. If not, they get the view of engines blowing up every couple of miles you drive. I know it's possible for Mazda to manage a reliable turbo'd rotary, but they might have a tough time justifying the development costs involved.

Mazda did build a great car. That said, I feel that car fell behind the competition a bit in the last few years. And let's be honest... the area the car was lacking in was power. Sure, the handling could have been improved upon to be even better than it already is, but power has been the questioned area sine day 1. If they could have added a bit more power for the last few years, it could have potentially sold better and lasted a little bit longer. I'm sure it was considered and deemed too much effort at that point, but it still would have been nice to see.

Kafka

Stupid GTR. I think the guy used to drive an Rx8 and he was in the HK forum here too...?

KC Racing right?

Kafka

Philip Yau In-Car Camera First Lap Accident - 57th Macau Grand Prix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0u6kmGWvN0

nycgps

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he got nervous. AWD will always launch better than RWD. Its fact. but what he did wrong was he should of paid more attention to the cars around him and don't force himself in when there weren't enough space --- which is exactly what happen in this case. result? he just trash the 8 and took 4 other cars with him.

in HK the driver is being bitch at like there is no tomorrow. afterall his "action" cost not only his team (KC Racing) the GT-R and its mods, it cost other teams huge sum of money too.

The association penalize him 1000 US dollar for doing this. he still insist the Rx-8 hit him. but I guess the cameras outside + the whole world has different opinion + me(I was right there to see this happen)

pdxhak

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Seemed to me he was following the line of the black GTR in front of him which caused him to hit the RX8.

RIWWP

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The most interesting part of the video, is in the first clip posted, once the wheels of the GTR turn right, they STAY right. They never turn left. Right into the 8, across the nose to tag the wall, then the rotation back "straight" you can see it's just the front tires just swinging the nose back around from still being pointed right (car's point of view), then it arcs back again. The wheels just stayed right the entire time.


I'd expect some sort of reaction from the driver to get the car straight. Sure, maybe damage kept him from doing that, but even the accident in the first place should never have put the wheel HARD OVER RIGHT to begin with. At the first reaction, it would have been natural to turn left some to straight, harder left as you rotate. I can't think of a plausible reason why the driver of the GTR would have turned the wheel right.



Such a shame.

nycgps

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the path he took was one of the right route, but what he forgot was there were loads of car right next to him. he was on the left side, so he should've take his left side and try to go in front then make his left turn.

The Black GT-R in front of him was probably the most powerful car in that race. Team Top Racing with HKS Japan. It was tuned by the most famous HKS tuner and a lot of "good" stuff.

RIWWP

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Mainly referring to once the accident started to occur, you don't see the wheels turning left at all, even at the initial reaction of the rotation to try to keep it straight. Wheels just stay right the entire time during the aftermath. I find that exceedingly odd.


Those type of accidents are common in NASCAR, where one moves over on another and the inside front one gets hooked right into the wall on the nose of the outside car. The other victim cars reacted as expected, but the initiator...doesn't. It's not a natural motion for that type of accident.

nycgps

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it seems that after the initial hit, the steering as some sort of problem.

I know crash happens a lot at Nascar. thats why Nascar sucks.