shimm57

i spent plenty of time in english class but i dont feel like i should be spending more than 5 minutes of my time writing entries on this forum. ill save my english skills for the AP test im taking in a few weeks.

but thanks for the critiques. i re-read my posts and i understand now what you mean when you say i would make a better argument with proper grammar. i guess thats what happens when you talk on AIM too much...

picosrx8

I love that we are comparing grammer and spelling errors to driving responsibly! You would think is apples and oranges. But in this case...

What you 16y/olds dont realize is that the rest of us were all your age once. Most of us knew (or were) the kid with the car they didnt deserve. Also, most of those kids were the ones who wrapped it around a tree before they graduated. I also think that if you are so mature at a young age, you wouldn't want a sports car. You would want that mature Buick or some other four door sled.

rudy8

i have had 25 or so cars, my first being an overpowered chevelle (72 350 with a 4 barrel carb) and absolutely no handling characteristics that were synonomous with living long. luckily, i am here to own my rx8;;;previously had an 85 rx7 in the early 90s. the 8 is maybe my favorite car of all my previous cars...and is so competent on the road;;;without having so much power to make a young driver with lots of desire to fly lose control of his or her senses...or car. more power to the dentists kid...
enjoy. as for being spoiled or not paying for his whole living expense while having a great car...so what. that was me too at his age. people grow up with all kinds of advantages and disadvantages and do okay in the end. who among you critics are beyond critisisms for aspects of your past...or present?

shimm57

that makes no sense.
are you saying that everyone that has an rx8 is immature?

PJ Richardson

Dude, I think it's awesome you had this nice experience with your dad and the dealer. It is a wonderful car and yes, we are very lucky to own them. My first car was a brand new red Datsun 240Z. (This was in 1973--I was 20). I wanted that car so bad for so long. When I finally got it, I think my dad got just a big a kick out of it as I did. I was devoted to that car. I remember hearing a teenage boy comment to his friends when they saw me wiping it down at the self wash that he wished he could find a girl who liked him as much as I liked my car, lol. I thought I would never feel that way about a car again, but here I am 30+ years later with our new red RX-8, in love all over again. If this is a mid-life crisis, I can deal with it (grin). Go for it, son. Enjoy.

It'd be nice if some of you other guys that posted would lighten up. You sound like a cranky bunch of hateful old women (wink).

flatso

Any guy that says "Dude" and is in his 50's I will not let bother me for saying I am an old woman

sferrett

IMO using correct spelling and grammar when typing a message should not take any extra effort, it comes naturally - it's just practise/care. Also taking those few extra seconds can help you re-read what you type to make sure you said what you meant.

I think, as you said, this is a side effect of younger people spending more time typing rather than writing, especially in informal situations like chat rooms. Typing has become a little bit like talking these days- it's the message that's the important thing and the grammar, spelling etc. are secondary.

That said - correct spelling, grammar and capitalization (and use of punctuation) do make typed or written messages mych easier to understand and can help your message be understood by a wider audience.

So, while I don't care (much) if folks use good/bad spelling/grammar/punctuation/capitalization in their messages, it sure does make them easier to read.

And folks that nit-pick on every error need to relax and understand that written word in contexts like this are conversational and not a spelling bee.

How's that for an unsolicited long-winded opinion?

Simon
(who turns double-sixteen in July)

Lex

Haha, I love this forum.

I'm gonna set it straight for everyone.

It's simple actually: buying a $30k car for your teenage kid -- with the exception of if you live in BelAir/etc -- is an ******* thing to do. Period. Why? Because your kid is gonna be parking the car in his high school lot next to 10-year old cavaliers and shitty late 90s civics.

If you're gonna buy your kid that kind of toy, why not just go stuff his backpack with $100 bills every morning where everyone can see them, cuz that's exactly what you're really trying to do.

No offense to the kids that receive this awesome car. It's your parents that are *********.

guy321

Interesting your brought this up.. as another member in highschool with an 8 was complaining someone threw a dead fish on his car and now he's looking for a way to get revenge..

I do think that he can drive whatever he wants, and his parents can give him whatever they want.. I just hope he truly appreciates it and doesn't take it for granted.

rudy8

go to any high school and look around...there are lots of expensive cars. im sure that this 8 is not the only car over 30K.
you guys are a tough crowd. this kid is excited about his car just like you.

KrustyKlown

I think he is pretty safe in the 8. Look at all the air bags and what not. I drove my Ranger like it was an 8 and wrecked it twice and almost killed myself the last time. Better to have something that can take the abuse better, like the 8.

PJ Richardson

Flatso, sweetie, I AM an old woman, lol. The way some of these guys snipe at each other, I may as well be back in my menopausal sewing circle. Silly me, I thought a bunch of guys would be better to talk with (wink).
PJ (Pam) Richardson

VikingDJ

Come on now guys, this statement has truth to it, but it should never be expressed because it goes without saying, and can be interpreted in many different ways, and will always cause an argument. Yes, not having any driving experience will not allow you to fully appreciate the car the way us older drivers can. As you get older, you develop an appreciation for all cars during your generation and beyond. However, I know if I was 16 and this car came out and I had the oppurtunity to drive one, I'd be as excited as he is. Let us remember that this young man, like all teenagers on this board, do not actually own the car. Their parents own it, and they are given oppurtunity to drive it. His experience is not like ours, because until he is on his own, he will never have something he can truly call his own. Whether you are paying for car or not, you still have been given a great oppurtunity that many of us could only dream about, so consider yourself spoiled. My dad loaned me $500 for a vw rabbit diesel as my first car, and I wasn't going to get any loan bigger then that when I was 17. That's just the way I was raised. Let the kid grow up and be excited, and even though he's definitely too young to be driving a car like this, he has the oppurtunity, so more power to him. I will tell you this though. The day you are on your own and buy a car with your hard earned money with no money or loan form parents, and you pay your own insurance, you will look at cars much differenty then you do now. I take great pride in knowing my hard work paid off, and I was able to get the car of my dreams. Hopefully one day you will get that experience. Good luck you spoiled SOB. hehe

shimm57

jealousy...so sad..
by the way, i park next to an '03 Mustang GT and an '01 325i
i'm a few cars away from not one but two bmw 330s

the rx8 isnt a toy, its a car. a car that i have earned through hard work, responsibility and damn good grades. parents do not buy their kids nice cars to go show off in school. that is probably the most ignorant thing i have ever heard. they buy their kids nice cars because they recognize the fact that they have worked hard for it and deserve it. My parents wanted to buy me a new CR-V but that was priced at 23k driveout. for 6k more, i could get a much better car.

maybe you should go whine to your parents for being ********* and not getting you a nice car at a young age. its sickening to see so many people being bitches just because some kids get nice cars at a young age. i dont ever show off or do anything to get attention, i just try to get people to understand that having a nice car so early does not mean you are spoiled or your parents are stupid. it means you're fortunate and worthy of having such a nice car.

oh another thing. some 19 year old in college who lives near me just got a gallardo after having his own brand new e46 M3 for about 3 years. i wonder what you guys have to say about that.

nosubstitutec4s

yah what he said

PaulieWalnuts

IF he really is paying for it, chances are greater he will drive responsibly.

This is even more true as the price of the car increases. A cheap disposable Civic beater for a first car will get exactly that - beaten, abused, and wrecked. A nice car has greater chances of being taken care of. At 16 I beat my beater. At 18 I bought a new car and treated it like a show car.

He sounds reasonably responsible. No "sup dog" "that's sick" or "whatdadealyo?" grammar. Depends on the person and their upbringing. Maybe we can learn something from his parents.

Good luck with the 8.

Redfusion3

iTrader: (2)

I just think it sucks when people get so jealous of our 8's that they have to hurt em or any other new car for that matter.

Especially if someone saved up there own money only to have there car keyed or tired slashed.

If I saw someone do anything to anyones 8 they would probably here about it from me.

PaulieWalnuts

You're in for a surprise. It happens both ways. I lived in Newport Beach, CA for a few years and met some very undeserving kids whose parents bought them some very expensive cars.

flatso

the only reason he does not use those words is because they are too hard to spell :D

PaulieWalnuts

LOL. I couldn't find whatdadealyo in MS Word's spell checker or thesaurus. :D

rotary-convert

No matter how mature someone is, (this kid is most likely mature for his age) kudos to him for not trying to hide his age. Point being, as mentioned earlier, the car is gonna get parked in a HS lot were most cars are rust buckets and chitty chitty bang bangs(non flying ones). His 8 will draw attention, mostly positive of course, but there runs the risk of that one jealous punk who goes out and key's it. If anyone here is too old to remember high school social issues and mentalities and forget that those select few ******** have more testosterone/ emotionspumping than any of us older people, then you are full of crap. There are asses everywhere, just more per capita in a school full of maturing kids.

Butt Dyno

I wouldn't wanna park a $30K car in a parking lot full of college beaters, personally.. and there is no substitute for experience. There is no such thing as natural talent when it comes to driving - the only way you get better at it is by doing it.

That said... please please please go out to an autocross or two with the car so you can learn its limits in a safe environment. After a year of autocross your instincts about what to do when you lose traction get a lot better

john

picosrx8

First of all...how much hard work can you possibly do before you graduate high school? Straight As dont mean jack. My class valadictorian drove a new BMW in high school. The next year he totaled it when he was whacked out on heroin. C and D students deserve this car more. At least they arent in denile about how good grades=RX8.

On the other hand...Come on Mom! Its only 6k more! Can I have it? Please? Please? Please? I promise Ill get straight As... And Ill pay for all my gas... And I wont race in it...Pretty please!!!

I dont blame you for having one. But I still dont think it the right car for a new driver. Yes it is safer and may keep you out of accidents that other cars wont. But no one can tell me that the car doesnt beg you to be driven and driven hard. Like how easy it is to hit 100mph+ when you are passing a car on the freeway. There are days I drive like a maniac in this car. I have dreams of driving this car at Laguna Seca to see how fast I could possibly go. So your going to reply with...."Not all teenagers are irresponsible..." right? I just read about a woman in her fifties who got her fist ticket in 25 years with this car. Irresponsibilility comes standard on this car.

flatso

you know what let him get it...experience is the best teacher and I think he will learn some important lessons if he gets this car....like patience.

rotary-convert

picosr8x

you sound just like a certain SSgt I know.
should I say Semper Fi devil dog or did you just put that on your bio?