What is the weakest link in the RX8?
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Originally posted by bernieunger
The valet is not an issue if your just going to leave it for an evening out because the car doesn't get cold enough. A long term park is a different story, however. I suggest the self-park lot.
The valet is not an issue if your just going to leave it for an evening out because the car doesn't get cold enough. A long term park is a different story, however. I suggest the self-park lot.
I have yet to read of a flooded engine resulting from a cold stall as well, but we haven't been told whether it cannot happen, and I don't really want to be the first one to report it, especially if I'm leaving work at 3:00 AM and my foot slips off the clutch when it's 8°F outside...
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Not many "WEAK LINKS" IMO, but......
The only thing I really hate about the car is the HVAC system. It is BY FAR more insufficent than any car I have ever owned. If I would have been able to test drive the car for a couple of weeks instead of a few minutes, I would have decided against buying it because of it. I am constantly aggrevated by how hot I am or how cold I am.....and how there seems to be no output at all from the blower unless you have the bitch cranked up to 3 or above. Then you have to have the stereo cranked to drown out the blower noise. The other thing that burns my *** about it is the inability for me to control whether the A/C compressor runs or not.
Oh.....I hate that damn auto-dimming rear view mirror too. If I choose to shut it off......don't automatically turn back on the next time I start the car.
The only thing I really hate about the car is the HVAC system. It is BY FAR more insufficent than any car I have ever owned. If I would have been able to test drive the car for a couple of weeks instead of a few minutes, I would have decided against buying it because of it. I am constantly aggrevated by how hot I am or how cold I am.....and how there seems to be no output at all from the blower unless you have the bitch cranked up to 3 or above. Then you have to have the stereo cranked to drown out the blower noise. The other thing that burns my *** about it is the inability for me to control whether the A/C compressor runs or not.
Oh.....I hate that damn auto-dimming rear view mirror too. If I choose to shut it off......don't automatically turn back on the next time I start the car.
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You should have your Aircon checked. I am lucky to have climate control which I set at 25 degrees Celcius (77F) and the car cools down pretty fast. The outside temp averages 30C (86F). I find it more than adequate although it's true that it is not the most powerful aircon around.
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Not many "WEAK LINKS" IMO, but......
The only thing I really hate about the car is the HVAC system. It is BY FAR more insufficent than any car I have ever owned. If I would have been able to test drive the car for a couple of weeks instead of a few minutes, I would have decided against buying it because of it. I am constantly aggrevated by how hot I am or how cold I am.....and how there seems to be no output at all from the blower unless you have the bitch cranked up to 3 or above. Then you have to have the stereo cranked to drown out the blower noise. The other thing that burns my *** about it is the inability for me to control whether the A/C compressor runs or not.
Oh.....I hate that damn auto-dimming rear view mirror too. If I choose to shut it off......don't automatically turn back on the next time I start the car.
Not many "WEAK LINKS" IMO, but......
The only thing I really hate about the car is the HVAC system. It is BY FAR more insufficent than any car I have ever owned. If I would have been able to test drive the car for a couple of weeks instead of a few minutes, I would have decided against buying it because of it. I am constantly aggrevated by how hot I am or how cold I am.....and how there seems to be no output at all from the blower unless you have the bitch cranked up to 3 or above. Then you have to have the stereo cranked to drown out the blower noise. The other thing that burns my *** about it is the inability for me to control whether the A/C compressor runs or not.
Oh.....I hate that damn auto-dimming rear view mirror too. If I choose to shut it off......don't automatically turn back on the next time I start the car.
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I've been looking for stories of MT owners flooding after an accidental stall, but haven't seen one yet.
I've been looking for stories of MT owners flooding after an accidental stall, but haven't seen one yet.
Anyhow...
I did a little experiment of my own the other week: I spent the week stalling the car and doing cold shutdowns on purpose to see if I got flooded or not (6MT). I did not manage to flood the car. (Start car, wait anywhere from 10 seconds to 30 seconds and either turn off the key or pop the clutch and stall the engine out - wait from 1 to 30 seconds and attempt restart. Temps were from 40 to 65F)
That said, I'm sure it's possible (and probably more likely to happen when you stall) but I can state that stalling a cold engine does not guarantee you're going to end up unable to restart due to flooding. In every case I restarted no problem.
My purpose was not to deny there's an issue with flooding - the short-trip procedure should definately be followed, I wanted to get an idea how likely you are to end up flooded if you stall/stop cold. My results (which are so unscientific it's not even funny) indicated to me that I should not be paranoid about stalling the car when it's cold.
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Originally posted by Rx8Past
dont you think that pisses off all the titanium gray owners and sunlight silver owners?
dont you think that pisses off all the titanium gray owners and sunlight silver owners?
there was a red, blue and yellow GT I could've chose from...
but like others guess I just don't like the attention that much, and who's going to care other than cops if you're having fun in the twisties what kinda colour car you have?
plus, it's my first manual car, no point in attracting attention to my stoplight stalls :p
but back on topic, weakest link compared to the S2000 to me would be, it still has a roof =p
and yes, only get the auto if you want conveinence
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Originally posted by MEGAREDS
I've been looking for stories of MT owners flooding after an accidental stall, but haven't seen one yet.
I've been looking for stories of MT owners flooding after an accidental stall, but haven't seen one yet.
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Originally posted by Lock & Load
From what i have observed on the forum the weakest link for the RX8 to me seems to be some of the DRIVERS who have no idea how to drive a manual car , and how to get the most out of a rotary engine .
michael.
From what i have observed on the forum the weakest link for the RX8 to me seems to be some of the DRIVERS who have no idea how to drive a manual car , and how to get the most out of a rotary engine .
michael.
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Originally posted by BillK
IMHO:
3) HID headlights - the beams cut off much too drastically in the RX-8 (and in many other Japanese cars with HIDs); see the beam patterns of Xenon-equipped BMWs or Porsches to see how to do HIDs right...
IMHO:
3) HID headlights - the beams cut off much too drastically in the RX-8 (and in many other Japanese cars with HIDs); see the beam patterns of Xenon-equipped BMWs or Porsches to see how to do HIDs right...
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oh and the new S2000 has like a 800rpm lower redline than before so it's like 8200rpm redline now.... sacrafice for torque so says Honda....
so if you want high rev turbine like sound, rx8's the way to go.
also a friend of mine who sat in a S2000 before said that the S2000 at redline still sounds like it's going to explode, while the rx8 sounds more restrained and like it could rev another 4k before it sounds like the S2000 at redline
so if you want high rev turbine like sound, rx8's the way to go.
also a friend of mine who sat in a S2000 before said that the S2000 at redline still sounds like it's going to explode, while the rx8 sounds more restrained and like it could rev another 4k before it sounds like the S2000 at redline
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Originally posted by BillK
Personally, I don't care about "blinding" other drivers...
Personally, I don't care about "blinding" other drivers...
BTW, studies have shown that "impaired" drivers tend to steer directly at bright lights. No kidding.
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Originally posted by Rotary Titus
hmm... like what do you mean? like you have problem with people who are asking for genuine advice on how to drive their first manual car? or people who complain they have no power cause they're clueless and never rev their engine past 3k?
hmm... like what do you mean? like you have problem with people who are asking for genuine advice on how to drive their first manual car? or people who complain they have no power cause they're clueless and never rev their engine past 3k?
If you cannot drive a manual properly the RX8 is not the car to learn on .
If you have the time to check the revs you are at ,you are driving to slowly.
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Originally posted by Lock & Load
Yellow rocks .
michael
Yellow rocks .
michael
Keep injecting a bit of humour in here, mate!
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Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
Uh... sympathy would be on the other side of suicide and nowhere near ****. Just an observation.
Uh... sympathy would be on the other side of suicide and nowhere near ****. Just an observation.
The saying is not ment to be interpreted literally.
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Originally posted by Lock & Load
If you want symphaty go to the dictionary and look between **** and suicide.
If you cannot drive a manual properly the RX8 is not the car to learn on .
If you have the time to check the revs you are at ,you are driving to slowly.
Cheers
michael
If you want symphaty go to the dictionary and look between **** and suicide.
If you cannot drive a manual properly the RX8 is not the car to learn on .
If you have the time to check the revs you are at ,you are driving to slowly.
Cheers
michael
maybe we should go and put them out of their misery?
well, I happen to have just learned to drive manual on the rx8 without killing myself or others in 2 weeks (though not from scratch cause I'm used to gear shifting on a sportsbike)
oh yes.... but you forget, I got the boring tit grey so I can GET NOTICED, so I count my revs to go slower while I pose
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I have yet to read of a flooded engine resulting from a cold stall as well, but we haven't been told whether it cannot happen...
I have yet to read of a flooded engine resulting from a cold stall as well, but we haven't been told whether it cannot happen...
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L&L,
That's alright my wife wouldn't answer me and made me get the dictionary out to check for myself . What can I say we Americans take things too seriously.
That's alright my wife wouldn't answer me and made me get the dictionary out to check for myself . What can I say we Americans take things too seriously.
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Originally posted by bobclevenger
"Yellow rocks"?? Oh -- you are on the gold coast. That must be what those yellow rocks are.
Keep injecting a bit of humour in here, mate!
"Yellow rocks"?? Oh -- you are on the gold coast. That must be what those yellow rocks are.
Keep injecting a bit of humour in here, mate!
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Originally posted by bobclevenger
There is nothing that cannot happen.
There is nothing that cannot happen.
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Originally posted by bobclevenger
And people wonder what causes "road rage."
BTW, studies have shown that "impaired" drivers tend to steer directly at bright lights. No kidding.
And people wonder what causes "road rage."
BTW, studies have shown that "impaired" drivers tend to steer directly at bright lights. No kidding.
IMHO the RX-8's HIDs' sharp cutoff makes them just about useless for driving on anything but ruler flat roads. Drive in the hills with them and you'll need your high beams on a good percentage of the time (often when you would not have needed them had you had conventional Halogen headlights.) The same is readily admitted to be true by drivers of S2000s.
If all you do is drive in cities, you may not notice the difference; drive in say the foothills if Colorado and the difference is immediately apparent...
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re: possibility of flooding if shut down or stalled when cold
The fact of the matter is - it is more likely that you will flood a rotary engine if shut down or stalled cold than with a conventional engine. This is why they went to the trouble of giving a short-trip procedure to follow in the case of a cold engine.
It's definately not guaranteed that you will flood an engine in that case (as some have been very concerned about) and by my own experimentation I did not manage to get mine to flood in a week of cold stops and stalls, but it is more likely than with a piston engine and I'm confident that if I had of kept doing it, eventually I would have ended up with a flooded engine. My experiment did convince me though that it's not something that I need to be overly concerned or preoccupied with.
Simon.
Originally posted by BillK
Fine - I want to be reassured that it's no more likely to happen than would be the case with a conventional engine.
Fine - I want to be reassured that it's no more likely to happen than would be the case with a conventional engine.
It's definately not guaranteed that you will flood an engine in that case (as some have been very concerned about) and by my own experimentation I did not manage to get mine to flood in a week of cold stops and stalls, but it is more likely than with a piston engine and I'm confident that if I had of kept doing it, eventually I would have ended up with a flooded engine. My experiment did convince me though that it's not something that I need to be overly concerned or preoccupied with.
Simon.
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re. flooding --
Yep, that would be nice. Time will tell.
Originally posted by BillK
Fine - I want to be reassured that it's no more likely to happen than would be the case with a conventional engine.
Fine - I want to be reassured that it's no more likely to happen than would be the case with a conventional engine.