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Old 10-28-2009, 08:39 PM
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Question what is double clutch

Hey everyone I got a question what is double clutch and what is the point of it does it give you a extra boost. And will it mess up the clutch if u do it alot
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_clutching
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It does not give any kind of boost. It makes life easier on the transmission.

You step on the clutch, shift into neutral, lift your foot off the clutch, step on it again, put the transmission into the next gear, then take your foot off the clutch. If you're shifting down, you step on the gas during the neutral foot-off part, to rev match.

Rather pointless on most cars to double clutch when upshifting - better to just granny shift - but it's beneficial on some heavy trucks and other big iron. Double clutching and rev matching downshifts is almost always beneficial.

If you google "double clutching" you should find lots of sites that describe it, and maybe some videos. If you're technical minded, see if your library has a copy of Taruffi's "The Technique of Motor Racing." That has a really excellent description.

Ignore anyone who tells you that synchromesh makes double clutching on downshifts irrelevant.

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It's fun though, makes the car sound nice if you have a nice exhaust.
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ken said it perfectly i thought he was talking about the dsg or sth lol
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Double clutching is used in really old cars with no synchromesh in it and is almost pointless in today's cars.
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
Double clutching is used in really old cars with no synchromesh in it and is almost pointless in today's cars.
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'granny shifting, not double clutching like you should'

listen to dominic toretto man, you GOTS to double clutch it.


jk. but it was funny when you asked if it gave you an extra boost

it's one of those things, I feel, where it's not much of a difference when upshifting as said before. but downshifting, like coming up to a stop or a light, it's nice to use especially if you're running any sound mods, ie intake, exhaust, pipes. sounds pretty as stated before.
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why double clutch instead of just holding the clutch in and blipping the throttle to rev match?

when i'm at the track and downshifting, I don't double clutch, I just heel/toe and get it in gear... doubleclutching would take too long, i would think...
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
Double clutching is used in really old cars with no synchromesh in it and is almost pointless in today's cars.
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Originally Posted by pcs
why double clutch instead of just holding the clutch in and blipping the throttle to rev match?

when i'm at the track and downshifting, I don't double clutch, I just heel/toe and get it in gear... doubleclutching would take too long, i would think...
Seconding this question. When the hell would I have enough time to double clutch, and how is it much better than just regular downshift revmatching?

I know that it will spin the intermediate shaft in the transmission up, but is that really all that necessary? Shifting the transmission into the lower gear (while the clutch pedal is in) causes that intermediate shaft to spin up to the speed the wheels need it to be at, does it not?
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Originally Posted by mikesol
Seconding this question. When the hell would I have enough time to double clutch, and how is it much better than just regular downshift revmatching?

I know that it will spin the intermediate shaft in the transmission up, but is that really all that necessary? Shifting the transmission into the lower gear (while the clutch pedal is in) causes that intermediate shaft to spin up to the speed the wheels need it to be at, does it not?
It doesn't take long once you've practiced it enough, it can be done very quickly, it only adds a fraction of a second to the shift. It allows you to manually do the job of the synchros, which can save wear on the tranny. It's not absolutely necessary, but for large downshifts (two or three gears down) I always double-clutch it, aside from being nice to the transmission it also makes for a buttery-smooth downshift and it's actually easier than single-clutch rev matching IMHO.
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Originally Posted by RemiNessin
Hey everyone I got a question what is double clutch and what is the point of it does it give you a extra boost. And will it mess up the clutch if u do it alot
Hmmm...double clutch? Let me take a stab at this one...double clutch = useless, pointless, ridiculous, insane, retarded, silly and totally uneccessary.

I think that about sums it up.
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Originally Posted by pcs
why double clutch instead of just holding the clutch in and blipping the throttle to rev match?

when i'm at the track and downshifting, I don't double clutch, I just heel/toe and get it in gear... doubleclutching would take too long, i would think...
Right on...NO ONE at the track double clutches...anybody who knows how to properly rev-match and heel-toe downshift has ABSOLUTELY no need for double clutching.

Unless of course you have a secret desire to become acquainted with an occassional wall or barrier because you missed your brake/ shift zone while you were busy futzing around in the footwell with a double clutch.
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If you ever get a chance to drive a dog box transmission with straigh-cut gears, you'll know what double-clutching is

Again, as many have already stated, it's completely useless for upshifts on our modern sychromesh transmissions.

I think the first time I drove a racing transmission with no sychros I had thought that I broke the transmission with my mighty shifts lol. Then the guy next to me says, "Hey, that's not bad - most guys can't even get that sucker in gear."
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heel toe? whats that?
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Here is another heel-toe clinic for ya...

http://www.4shared.com/file/14473800...oe_Clinic.html
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when did you start racing porche's? lol
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heel toe? whats that?
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about the only time it is really really needed is to get back to first. First is the hardest gear to get back into if you are at 20+ mph.
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