RXcellent

Lost control of my car around a corner last night at 10-15 mph, spun and hit the curb. No body damage but broke my rim. I was not going fast at all and have had my car since last August when the 8 came out so have a good idea of how it normally handles. The car defintely did not behave normal. Anyone have a similar situation and was able to get MAzda to do the repair under warranty?

Thanks....

ZoomZoom

Is this a joke… why would you expect Mazda to pay for your carelessness?

93rdcurrent

You'll need a good expert to show that the rim failed under conditions that it was designed to handle. If you hit a curb (as it looks like you did) your chances are probably slim imho.

quack_p

Oooh, that looks nasty. Are you saying the accident was due to a defect in the car? I find that pretty hard to believe, and I think any dealer will, too.

Detroit RX8

Very unlikely you will get it repaired under warranty..

Also, are you sure you were only going 10-15 mph?? I have hit curbs harder than that in an old car (2002 Cougar) and only scratched the rim..

czr

iTrader: (3)

It's not worth the headache. Just post/shop in the parts wanted/for sale section and get a used one.

shaolin

I'm gonna go crash into a wall and ask them to repair my car under warranty hahaha.

quack_p

I don't think he has any case to make on the rim -- it was never designed to hit a curb at 15 mph. I think he'd have to argue he lost control of the car due to some sort of defect in the steering, brakes, etc. and not due to driver error or road conditions (oil, ice, etc.).

StewC625

Best of luck with that idea ...

Collision damage is never warranty works.

I agree with whoever said "check in the forum for a new/used rim" infinitely cheaper than anything else.

However, I'd be highly suprised (in fact, I'd bet my -8's title on this ...) that there's no additional damage to the suspension/driveline from this shunt. First of all, you can see the backing shield for the brake rotor is bent, I'd bet the brake rotor is also bent, the lower control arm for the rear suspension, and most likely the shock absorber are also bent/damaged, and I'd bet the shock tower in the body is got a zing to it too ...

Then, I'd also place bets that the axle halfshaft is damaged as well as the CV joints in that driveline as well.

That's probably where the damage ends, however.

Oh, and you'll need a new tire - that tire bead will never seat properly again after having been twisted off the rim like that.

Nice one! Sorry it happend.

ZoomZoom

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaolin

I'm gonna go crash into a wall and ask them to repair my car under warranty hahaha.

:D

Mr M

I think you guys are misunderstanding what this guy is saying. He is saying he was only travelling 10 mph when his car suddenly felt 'different', and he crashed. That is a serious problem!!

To the starter of this thread, you need to collect your thoughts and recall what actually happened. Did you swerve to avoid something, how fast were you really going? Were you braking? What was the road surface like? What are your tires and tire pressures like? Were there any warning lights on before/after the crash? Did the steering, or the suspension, or the engine, or the seat not 'feel normal'?

I wanna help you on this, but you gotta help me first...

brothervoodoo

I think he has bigger problems than worrying about getting a rim covered under warranty!

StewC625

I don't know "lost control of my car at 10-15 mph, spun and hit a curb" is self explanatory to me. On damp pavement with the DSC off (or no DSC, depending on package), it would be VERY easy if you're not an experienced driver to spin the car out if you were foolish with the throttle application turning a corner. Ain't no warranty for poor driving.

I got my -8 almost completely sideways in the rain a few weeks ago WITH the DSC in the ON position - cold rain, summer tires and too much throttle were to blame - thankfully, nothing to hit - just skidded a bit, gathered it back in, and was on my way with my heart pounding ...

VividRacing.com

I really doubt that they'll replace it.. Just go buy the SSR's we got on sale in the vivid section..

Are you sure the only damage is to the rim? What about the control arms or anything like that??

jaedcem

It appears that he believes that the wheel broke, causing him to lose control and spin. I had a wheel nearly fall off my wife's van, because the nuts weren't torqued properly by the shop when the tires were rotated. I felt that something "wasn't right" before I left the driveway, and noticed the problem before the wheel literally fell off. I can see why he would assume that he felt a change in handling when the wheel broke. His question is whether anyone else has had a wheel break, and if so, what was done.

If indeed the wheel broke, causing him to spin (and incidentally strike the curb) then there would be cause for concern. I agree that he would have a nearly impossible time proving that the wheel failure caused the incident. Anyone interested in "defending" Mazda would easily argue that the spin was driver error, and the damage caused by the spin. I doubt that this theory could be disproven.

RXcellent

thanks to everyone's input. I am not trying to deny responsiblility just want to know if anyone else had a similar experience. I was at a stop light turning left; applied moderate throttle; my rearend came out a little on the passenger side tried to corect and it seemed like all hell broke loose. The car was still cold so maybe my tires were still cold and hard, maybe something slick on the road, not sure if something with the car malfunctioned ... or I malfunctioned ?!?

Just trying to see if anyone had a similar experience..... this one caight me compeltely off gaurd; I have pushed my 8 much harder on many other occasions... this was just wierd.....

brothervoodoo

Do you have a base model without DCS/TCS?

quack_p

I don't know what the truth is here. I think you should reflect back on what happened and be certain there was nothing you did to cause this accident. Assuming you're a person of good character and are telling us the full story, you should try resolving this with the dealer first. If that doesn't work, then call Mazda North American Operations. Don't get your hopes up. I have trouble believing the accident was Mazda's fault, but I'm sure no one believed the first Pinto owner whose gas tank exploded.

Gambit

actually my dealer told me about an insurance you could buy for the tires and rims in case something like that happened, he said it cost 250 for a one time fee...you should ask about that, wait a little while if you have another car to drive, then say it just happened and you want a new rim

speeddemon32

i dont know if you have it or not, but when i bought my RX-8, it cames witha "warenty" on WHEELS and tires. they said even if its my fault, the wheels are covered under warrenty. you might want to check into this.
And for all of you that are going to say "they just said that so you would buy the car" they stated this after i bought the car. and i had to sign a "warrenty form for the wheel and tieres. (tires are pro rated.)

anywhoo, check your paper work before you do anything.

speeddemon32

i see you beat me to it :D

quack_p

Ahh, see, this is why people with legitimate claims have such a hard time getting their claims processed. Shame on you!

Mr M

Why are you so obsessed with your friggin' warranty claim, and not with trying to find out what happened in the first place! If you think something went wrong with the car then answer my previous questions, and then go to Mazda.

What I think happened to you was that your cold-engine suddenly picked up while you had your foot on the gas (probably too hard, because there was no power, because the engine was cold), and you spun out.

But you still haven't said what wasn't "normal" about the car. My worry is that you might be driving around with faulty power steering or something, but you are not getting it fixed because you are too busy positing messages on forums asking if Mazda will pay for your wheel! If the car caused the accident then Mazda may well pay for a new car, but you don't know until you talk to them!

Sigh...

StewC625

RXlent: Sounds to me like you just plain lost control, and your last post seems to own up to that, which is good. I'd say there's a good possibility that there was water or oil on the road, making it slicker ... and if it were cold out too, well, that's a recipe for a spin out - which you experienced, and smacked your wheel on the curb.

OUCH!

Glad it wasn't worse ... give it a shot with Mazda, but my guess is once they see the wheel smashed in on the side like that, they will deny any coverage. AND as I said before, I'll be truly amazed if there isn't any OTHER damage to your car.

speeddemon32

what i dont understand, is how you hit a curb hard enough to break a rim, but thats all that is broken.... there are no broken A-arms, no broken ti rods??? that to me spells..... WEAK WHEELS. was it a hard impact, or very light? just trying to understand a little more.