Vibration issues: conclusion
10-19-2007, 06:26 PM
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Vibration issues: conclusion
recap: Car vibrates visibly. The passanger seat will shake light contents right off. The mirrors shake and blurs the reflections.
occurs while in gear only, at idle: 800rpm
Dealership says it is the ignition coils, replaces. No fix.
Dealership looks again, says is normal, all cars with my millage shake that bad or worse (17,000, auto, shinka).
Today, I asked them to start one on the lot and show me, they charged the battery and let it run until idle hit 800.
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If that was the car I rode in when I was looking to buy this car, I would have laughed at it when I passed one. It was ridiculously loud and harsh.
Neither the service tech or I could read anything in the mirrors, not even the license plate behind us. "This is the vehicle's normal wear".
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MNMO wont do anything because the "dealer" is their eyes and ears and best equipped to determine what is wrong. Because they were able to reproduce the issue in another vehicle for sale, nothing can be done.
There you have it. Rotarys are doomed to be the over-caffeinated vehicles of the road.
My License plate will soon say: H8Mazda(well, something better, but you get it).
occurs while in gear only, at idle: 800rpm
Dealership says it is the ignition coils, replaces. No fix.
Dealership looks again, says is normal, all cars with my millage shake that bad or worse (17,000, auto, shinka).
Today, I asked them to start one on the lot and show me, they charged the battery and let it run until idle hit 800.
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If that was the car I rode in when I was looking to buy this car, I would have laughed at it when I passed one. It was ridiculously loud and harsh.
Neither the service tech or I could read anything in the mirrors, not even the license plate behind us. "This is the vehicle's normal wear".
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MNMO wont do anything because the "dealer" is their eyes and ears and best equipped to determine what is wrong. Because they were able to reproduce the issue in another vehicle for sale, nothing can be done.
There you have it. Rotarys are doomed to be the over-caffeinated vehicles of the road.
My License plate will soon say: H8Mazda(well, something better, but you get it).
10-19-2007, 06:35 PM
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I can take one with my phone, I dont know how good it will look.
Dealer checked the motor mounts.
And not being able to read anything in the rear view mirror is not normal, or I hope not.
Dealer checked the motor mounts.
And not being able to read anything in the rear view mirror is not normal, or I hope not.
10-19-2007, 06:39 PM
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I don't know that it's motor mounts or not, but you have an 06 so you are still under warranty.........don't let them off the hook!
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10-19-2007, 06:45 PM
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I have spoke with MNAO and they tell me that the they rely on the dealer to make that diagnostic since they can not be there with the car.
There is only one other dealer, and they do not have a Rotary mechanic. The best they told me last time I had a question and took it to them was " well we can see if another car on the lot does it ".
Also, I spoke with the service manager, and the lvl 2 manager of this dealer for other issues I was having (refusal to give me a loaner car for warranty work). MNAO worked that out, but the managers are ********.
There is only one other dealer, and they do not have a Rotary mechanic. The best they told me last time I had a question and took it to them was " well we can see if another car on the lot does it ".
Also, I spoke with the service manager, and the lvl 2 manager of this dealer for other issues I was having (refusal to give me a loaner car for warranty work). MNAO worked that out, but the managers are ********.
10-19-2007, 06:54 PM
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I have spoke with MNAO and they tell me that the they rely on the dealer to make that diagnostic since they can not be there with the car.
There is only one other dealer, and they do not have a Rotary mechanic. The best they told me last time I had a question and took it to them was " well we can see if another car on the lot does it ".
Also, I spoke with the service manager, and the lvl 2 manager of this dealer for other issues I was having (refusal to give me a loaner car for warranty work). MNAO worked that out, but the managers are ********.
There is only one other dealer, and they do not have a Rotary mechanic. The best they told me last time I had a question and took it to them was " well we can see if another car on the lot does it ".
Also, I spoke with the service manager, and the lvl 2 manager of this dealer for other issues I was having (refusal to give me a loaner car for warranty work). MNAO worked that out, but the managers are ********.
1.) Go to another dealer no matter how much of a pain it is and maybe even tell them the other place can't fix it.
2.) Show up at the present dealer every week and bug them till they do something, but this can be dangerous in some ways.
Anybody else??????
10-19-2007, 07:22 PM
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Video of shaking
http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...rent=shake.flv
The camera sucks and it is resting on the door frame. Was to dark to catch the mirrors blurring.
Here is the audio + video. Sorry it is 4mb
http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=1shaking.flv
http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...rent=shake.flv
The camera sucks and it is resting on the door frame. Was to dark to catch the mirrors blurring.
Here is the audio + video. Sorry it is 4mb
http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=1shaking.flv
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10-19-2007, 08:15 PM
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kinda hard to tell what's different... a good amount of cars would make enough vibration though the body to shake a camera like that I think. I know what you're talking about, but only had that vibration once for some reason. The only time I've noticed too much vibration to be able to see clearly in the mirrors was well over 100 mph... so I can say that for you to have that much vibration is not normal.
10-20-2007, 12:11 AM
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The idle doesn't sound good at all. Since this only occurs when the engine is in gear it may have something to do with the transmission - torque converter perhaps? It doesn't sound like motor mounts otherwise you would likely have the same issues when the transmission is in neutral.
As pretty much all the other posters have said, this type of vibration is not normal and should be covered by the factory warranty. Have the dealership run another automatic RX-8 in gear and see if they sound the same at 800 RPMs.
Good luck
As pretty much all the other posters have said, this type of vibration is not normal and should be covered by the factory warranty. Have the dealership run another automatic RX-8 in gear and see if they sound the same at 800 RPMs.
Good luck
10-20-2007, 11:10 AM
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The idle doesn't sound good at all. Since this only occurs when the engine is in gear it may have something to do with the transmission - torque converter perhaps? It doesn't sound like motor mounts otherwise you would likely have the same issues when the transmission is in neutral.
As pretty much all the other posters have said, this type of vibration is not normal and should be covered by the factory warranty. Have the dealership run another automatic RX-8 in gear and see if they sound the same at 800 RPMs.
Good luck
As pretty much all the other posters have said, this type of vibration is not normal and should be covered by the factory warranty. Have the dealership run another automatic RX-8 in gear and see if they sound the same at 800 RPMs.
Good luck
We couldn't read the license plate on the car behind us because the mirrors blurred everything so bad, and the idle was LOUD.
10-26-2007, 10:53 PM
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Garcia are crooks - let University check it out and go from there.....
I bought my car in Santa Fe, but University Mazda is the only NM dealer I have faith in so far for service. Not great - but fair.
I bought my car in Santa Fe, but University Mazda is the only NM dealer I have faith in so far for service. Not great - but fair.
10-29-2007, 10:20 PM
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The rotary (when running properly) is one of the smoothest engines I have experienced. If you are experiencing vibrations so bad that you can't read a close license plate in your rear view mirror, there is something wrong with the car. Any dealer that tells you different is incompetent!
10-30-2007, 01:59 AM
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Typical slack-**** dealers that just want to sell you the car & get rid of you.
Have an 03-model + 4AT version here with stuffed engine mounts.
Vibrates at idle in gear. Have gotten used to it as I wait for some bargain engine mounts (+ bracket) to pop up on E-bay etc. Being an 03-model & out of warranty Mazda are not interested in any assistance in fixing their design fault.
Also, check your plugs as they can cause similar symptoms if well passed their use by date.
Dealers are lieing to you if they say the plugs are good for over 50k km. Change them at 25k km or less..............
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Have an 03-model + 4AT version here with stuffed engine mounts.
Vibrates at idle in gear. Have gotten used to it as I wait for some bargain engine mounts (+ bracket) to pop up on E-bay etc. Being an 03-model & out of warranty Mazda are not interested in any assistance in fixing their design fault.
Also, check your plugs as they can cause similar symptoms if well passed their use by date.
Dealers are lieing to you if they say the plugs are good for over 50k km. Change them at 25k km or less..............
REgards
10-30-2007, 09:11 AM
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mine vibrates and rattles when in idle and my dealer said the vibrations are normal, all RX8s vibrate, its not bad enough not to read out of my mirrors though. My exhaust makes a little rattling noise and my cockpit smells like exhaust after a good rev, they checked for leaks, found nothing, and concluded its normal wear and theres nothing wrong.
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