Go Back  RX8Club.com > General Topics > RX-8 Discussion
Reload this Page >

is it true the average life-span of the rx-8 is only about 70,000-80,000 miles?

Notices
RX-8 Discussion General discussion about the RX-8 that doesn't fit in one of the specialty forums.

is it true the average life-span of the rx-8 is only about 70,000-80,000 miles?

Old 04-26-2014, 11:15 AM
  #101  
Verbose SuperMod
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 16,683
Likes: 0
Liked 137 Times in 76 Posts
The disagreement was with claiming that more helicopters have them than not. The jet engine is the preferred engine for helicopters, hands down.

There was no engine recall. The recall sticker will be for emissions, MSP16, etc... THere were 5 recalls for the RX-8, none of them recalled "the engine". 3 of them were just reflash updates for emissions or engine health. You kept the same hardware installed.
RIWWP is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 11:16 AM
  #102  
Registered
 
Tailicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I cant post it since I'm on my phone but it reads this way

Mazda Authorized Modification

recall 4206f

Part # N322-18881(or 9 cant tell)-T
Tailicus is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 11:19 AM
  #103  
Verbose SuperMod
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 16,683
Likes: 0
Liked 137 Times in 76 Posts
Owner Letter:

Mazda North American Operations
August 2006
2004-2006 RX-8 Voluntary Emission Recall Campaign 4206F

Dear Mazda Owner:
Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct an Emission Recall Campaign to reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and replace the spark plugs on certain 2004-2006 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through June 1, 2006.

If you are a recipient of this notice, your vehicle is included in this recall.

What is the problem?
Due to PCM software calibration issues, the following conditions may result:
i) The oil-injection metering system may be inaccurate causing poor engine sealing of the combustion chambers resulting in drivability or emissions problems.
ii) Too much fuel may be injected at the time of engine start causing carbon to be deposited on spark plugs or plugs may be flooded, causing a difficult start condition. In addition, the catalytic converter may be degraded on some vehicles.
iii) (Only 2006 RX-8 vehicles are affected.) A test value indicating engine coolant temperature may be incorrectly shown on the service tool when a diagnostic function test is performed at dealership.

What will Mazda do?
Your Mazda dealer will reprogram the PCM to include the latest calibration. In addition, the following components will be inspected and repaired or replaced if necessary: spark plugs, engine, and catalytic converter. All of these inspection/repairs are carried out free of charge
.
The repair should take approximately 1 hour to complete at minimum. However, it may take longer depending on the necessary repairs and service workload at your Mazda dealership. Mazda is offering a Daily Rental Program to provide alternate transportation when your vehicle is at an authorized Mazda dealership for this recall. Ask your dealer for details about this program.

What should you do?
We encourage you to make an appointment with any authorized Mazda dealer to have the PCM reprogrammed and if necessary, have the spark plugs, engine, and/or catalytic converter replaced, at your earliest convenience. You do not need to bring this notice to the dealer, but it may assist in the check-in process.
Dealer Letter:
TO:
Mazda Dealership General Managers, Service Managers, and Parts Managers
DATE: April 2008 (Original August 2006)

SUBJECT:
2004-2006 RX-8 Voluntary Emission Recall Campaign 4206F

Revised Parts and Warranty Information

Dear Mazda Dealer:
Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct an Emission Recall Campaign to reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and replace the spark plugs on certain 2004-2006 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through June 1, 2006.

Due to PCM software calibration issues, the following conditions may result:
i) The oil-injection metering system may be inaccurate causing poor engine sealing of the combustion chambers resulting in drivability or emissions problems.
ii) Too much fuel may be injected at the time of engine start causing carbon to be deposited on spark plugs or plugs may be flooded, causing a difficult start condition. In addition, the catalytic converter may be degraded on some vehicles.
iii) (Only 2006 RX-8 vehicles are affected.) A test value indicating engine coolant temperature may be incorrectly shown on the service tool when a diagnostic function test is performed at dealership.

Owners of affected vehicles will be notified by first class mail beginning August 31, 2006.

This package contains important information about emission recall campaign 4206F:
Attachment I Dealer Service and Parts information
Attachment II Repair procedures
Attachment III Owner notification letter

Important notice: California Department of Motor Vehicles, Vermont Department of Motor Vehicles, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, in conjunction with the California Air Resources Board and the Environmental Protection Agency for the State of Massachusetts and Vermont, have implemented the Registration Renewal/Recall Tie-In Program, which requires the completion of Emission Recalls prior to registration renewal. Mazda dealers must provide a Vehicle Emission Recall – Proof of Correction Certificate upon completion of the recall. Instruct owners to keep the certificate until needed for registration renewal.
Failure to perform applicable recalls before delivery can result in extensive dealer fines and penalties from the Federal Government. Therefore, you must complete this recall for all affected vehicles in your inventory prior to delivery.

Last edited by RIWWP; 04-26-2014 at 11:22 AM.
RIWWP is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 11:24 AM
  #104  
Registered
 
Tailicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
But I didn't say helicopters used them more than jet engines. I said Helicopters wouldn't use them if they weren't reliable.

I can understand the confusion though. I tend to do that to most of my friends as well.

I am not here to pick fights, or argue. I'm not saying none of you knew what you were talking about, but I did not post anything that I did not know. Any more replies about this confusion will not revoke a response thank you.

RIWWP - I respect you, and am very well aware that you know more about rotary engines than I
Tailicus is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 11:28 AM
  #105  
Registered
 
Tailicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RIWWP View Post
Owner Letter:



Dealer Letter:
Thanks. I believe I remember reading this when I first saw it at the gas station. By that I mean I looked it up. And my buddy told me it wasn't a big deal.
Tailicus is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 12:20 PM
  #106  
Verbose SuperMod
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 16,683
Likes: 0
Liked 137 Times in 76 Posts
One thing about the internet and 100% of communication in text, using the wrong words conveys an incorrect meaning that isn't easily corrected.

Example:
Originally Posted by Tailicus View Post
Otherwise, I don't think that would be the primary engine for helicopters...
That's the point contradicted.

RIWWP is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 12:47 PM
  #107  
Registered
 
Tailicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
hmmm. I'm trying to think why I said primary.

I know that turbine gas engines are preferred in aviation. Rolls Royce's Allison model 250 series is the most commonly used engine for helicopters (turbine gas).

If that's what I said, (which obviously is since it's typed there) then by all means slap me with a stupid stick.
Tailicus is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 01:02 PM
  #108  
Registered
 
Tailicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Also by that, I meant to say that exact sentence you quoted earlier.

But I talked with a mechanical engineer at my university and he was even talking about the turbine gas engine (as well as some weird thing about cows). So I'm not sure why I said that sentence since I knew better.

Does that make sense, or should I keep digging a larger more confusing hole?
Tailicus is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 01:03 PM
  #109  
Verbose SuperMod
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 16,683
Likes: 0
Liked 137 Times in 76 Posts



Feel free to trade the shovel for a ladder at any point.
RIWWP is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 01:55 PM
  #110  
Registered
 
Tailicus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'll do that. And then trade the ladder for a jet pack since the ladder might not quite make it. :D
Tailicus is offline  
Old 04-26-2014, 07:02 PM
  #111  
Wally Moderator
 
ken-x8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 5,027
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
recall 4206f
Since this has been mentioned, I've got a question for the engine builders.

Have you seen the innards of enough Renesises (Renesi?) from before and after 4206f to form an opinion as to whether it helped the way Mazda thought it would?

Ken
ken-x8 is offline  
Old 04-03-2016, 06:36 PM
  #112  
BMF
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've been looking into buying a used RX8. It's a 2004 with 45,535 miles on it. I own a Dodge Neon right now and haven't decided fly if I want to make the jump to the RX8. Any suggeations?
BMF is offline  
Old 04-03-2016, 09:07 PM
  #113  
Time for boost...
iTrader: (24)
 
RX8Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,413
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by BMF View Post
I've been looking into buying a used RX8. It's a 2004 with 45,535 miles on it. I own a Dodge Neon right now and haven't decided fly if I want to make the jump to the RX8. Any suggeations?
I suggest reading the new and potential owners thread found in the new members forum.
RX8Soldier is online now  
Old 04-11-2018, 01:58 AM
  #114  
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Croatia Zagreb
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hy guys, just bought RX8 with low compression (it run on 5 bar and less - had hot start problem) and drove it for 1000miles. It started cranking and destroyed stationary bearing. So 100000miles on first engine. Now dead! If i could get it with second engine I would be happy as a baby!
Barbusix is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 01:56 PM
  #115  
Registered
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,739
Liked 335 Times in 270 Posts
9krpmrx8 is offline  
Old 01-07-2019, 03:49 AM
  #116  
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Croatia Zagreb
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection View Post
Two years later and this still holds true in my experience. I am now doing one rx8 every week or 2 at this point.
I have done two rebuilds on rx8 with 80k miles and all You say it's true!
Barbusix is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Skyl3r
New Member Forum
145
01-30-2019 06:19 PM
EfrainOlivares
West For Sale/Wanted
1
08-14-2015 06:17 PM
akagc
RX-8's For Sale/Wanted
7
08-11-2015 07:07 PM
kaboshe
New Member Forum
11
07-17-2015 03:14 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Quick Reply: is it true the average life-span of the rx-8 is only about 70,000-80,000 miles?


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.