Touring vs Grand Touring
11-16-2009, 02:11 PM
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1. thats not recommended, do you know if you have the updated starter?
2. NGK's are stock, and yes they should be the same, and i say go with napa, thats a good deal on the plugs, the stealerships like ripping people off, and YES DO IT YOURSELF, its way easy and its way cheaper
3. yes
2. NGK's are stock, and yes they should be the same, and i say go with napa, thats a good deal on the plugs, the stealerships like ripping people off, and YES DO IT YOURSELF, its way easy and its way cheaper
3. yes
11-16-2009, 02:21 PM
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1. thats not recommended, do you know if you have the updated starter?
2. NGK's are stock, and yes they should be the same, and i say go with napa, thats a good deal on the plugs, the stealerships like ripping people off, and YES DO IT YOURSELF, its way easy and its way cheaper
3. yes
2. NGK's are stock, and yes they should be the same, and i say go with napa, thats a good deal on the plugs, the stealerships like ripping people off, and YES DO IT YOURSELF, its way easy and its way cheaper
3. yes
2. Thank you
3. How do I know which one is which, I read that its stamped right next to the plug, i looked, couldnt see though?
11-16-2009, 02:46 PM
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11-17-2009, 05:55 AM
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Dozer heads up the comic relief department, not technical issues, so I'll chime in. 
1. There was a TSB that freely upgraded the starter and battery on all '04's and early '05's, but since the B-to-B warranty is up for that group it's no longer available.
The germane TSB was 01-004/05 dtd 12/1/2005 "Engine Cranks No Start" (note that later editions of this TSB did not discuss the new starter and battery, for the aforementioned reason). I don't have a softcopy, but from my hardcopy: ~"if the VIN is at or below JM1FE173*****150745 then visually inspect the starter placard. If the placard indicates N3H1 replace the starter. If the placard indicates N3H1 A or later you have the upgraded starter."
Early cars came with a Panasonic battery that was upgraded to an Interstate, so that's another way to know (unless the original owner just happened to get an Interstate). The starter placard is on the driver's side of the unit. You may have to jack up the vehicle to read it (use a jack stand).
2. You're welcome, but in the future try and search first.
3. The 'plugs have 'T' and 'L' labeled on their boxes and the engine block is stamped with a 'T' and 'L' adjacent their sockets. See the sparkplug change DIY.
1. There was a TSB that freely upgraded the starter and battery on all '04's and early '05's, but since the B-to-B warranty is up for that group it's no longer available.
The germane TSB was 01-004/05 dtd 12/1/2005 "Engine Cranks No Start" (note that later editions of this TSB did not discuss the new starter and battery, for the aforementioned reason). I don't have a softcopy, but from my hardcopy: ~"if the VIN is at or below JM1FE173*****150745 then visually inspect the starter placard. If the placard indicates N3H1 replace the starter. If the placard indicates N3H1 A or later you have the upgraded starter."
Early cars came with a Panasonic battery that was upgraded to an Interstate, so that's another way to know (unless the original owner just happened to get an Interstate). The starter placard is on the driver's side of the unit. You may have to jack up the vehicle to read it (use a jack stand).
2. You're welcome, but in the future try and search first.
3. The 'plugs have 'T' and 'L' labeled on their boxes and the engine block is stamped with a 'T' and 'L' adjacent their sockets. See the sparkplug change DIY.
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