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Old 11-04-2002, 10:42 AM
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I understand and completely applaud the RX-8's role as an astonishing handling car. I look forward to the back roads that I will devour behind the wheel of this car. But I must say that the people who say that they sometimes wish to drag off the line, I cannot disagree with. I want the RX-8 to handle well, but if some Civic or souped up Prelude pulls up alongside me at the light, I want to be able to beat him. I dont want to be shouting, from behind him, "This would be different at the track!!" I dunno, doesnt seem that cool if you say that while you are losing.
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Re: Horsepower ain't everything, but...

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I understand and completely applaud the RX-8's role as an astonishing handling car. I look forward to the back roads that I will devour behind the wheel of this car. But I must say that the people who say that they sometimes wish to drag off the line, I cannot disagree with. I want the RX-8 to handle well, but if some Civic or souped up Prelude pulls up alongside me at the light, I want to be able to beat him. I dont want to be shouting, from behind him, "This would be different at the track!!" I dunno, doesnt seem that cool if you say that while you are losing.
Just rev up the engine and give the ricer a good stare.. then when the light turns, don't move. Let him fly off.

Then you laugh and watch him get a ticket for reckless driving
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Yeah, but they you'd be ghey.
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Yeah, but they you'd be ghey.
Perhaps, but I never cared what ricers thought anyway.
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Yeah, but still. You rev up then let him leave? I mean, come on.
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Yeah, but still. You rev up then let him leave? I mean, come on.
Not getting into that one... IMHO if you rev it to 9K he might think twice anyway...
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I will not let some guy in a civic blow by me
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zoom-zoom

Personaly, I can't wait to hear the sound of RX-8 running while standing still or driving at any speed

... now in my stern fatherly voice (oh who am I kidding): "let's stop and think about this ... before someone gets hurt!"

:D
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Re: zoom-zoom

Originally posted by bwayout
Personaly, I can't wait to hear the sound of RX-8 running while standing still or driving at any speed

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:D
If it sounds like a standard UK RX-7 then you probably won't hear it at all until it gets going... then there is sure to be a nice battlecry...
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
I will not let some guy in a civic blow by me
Why not...

There is a thing about knowing that you have that kind of power/speed that means that you don't HAVE to prove it all the time....

If you refuse to race somone you are making a statement that you don't even concider them to be in the same league... it's all very well to race cars off lights when you've got some POS that doesn't go very fast... but even my friend who's a speed freak buying custom TVR's accepts that you can't race too much with seriously quick cars since it's just too dangerous... his car is _Almost_ sub 3.0 seconds 0-60.

All in all, take a more mature attitude, and invite them to meet you at a track if they think they have what it takes.
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But...

I understand about wreckless driving, but that is a bit of a stretch. I'm not talking about a designated race road with on a race night. I'm talking there's a 2 lane road at the light and 30 yards after the light it turns into a one lane. And who said anything about a ricer? What if it is some guy in his BMW 3 series or something else. Ricers aren't the only guys that want to drag from a stoplight, even if its just for 60 feet. All I'm saying is I want to beat that guy before the road goes from two lane to one. :D
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okay, tallguylehigh, that IS reckless driving... quite boneheaded, in fact. i'm all for going quickly: ya, it pisses me off when the guy in front of me is doing the speed limit, and ya, i love to corner with the tyres moaning a bit, but that IS just stupid!! sure, it's all fine when you can kill a guy no problem, but what if you don't?? and what if, what if, what if?? ending up with a wrecked car (or worse in a longer race... you know all those crash tests they show on tv that completely destroy the STRONGEST parts of the car?? those are at city speed limits, friend... think about what would happen if you loose control at ONLY 60 mph and hit a lamp post...) because neither driver wanted to yeild is ******' stupid, pardon my language, but it IS...

now, fellahs, don't be too hard on potatohead, he's 15 and a sportsman... just eager to prove to the world how great the 8 is
but, street racing is about as dumb as dumb can be... foolin' around with your bud in a parking lot?? hey, whatever... racing with some idiot, who you don't know and wants to beat you because he's lackin' in the penile region, is retarded...
that's all i'm gonna say, i can't read this thread anymore...

**edit: DON"T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY!! i'm not trying to make enemies here, but i won't apologize for toes i step on when i say that street racing is dumb... i'm not trying to say any person in particular is wholly a bad/stupid person because they do that, i just think it's a really bad idea...

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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
I will not let some guy in a civic blow by me
Maybe you should, unless you're looking forward to hospital bills (for yourself) and prison time (for the person you hurt).
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Ok, I recognize that what I said may have been a bit wreckless. I am not going to be stupid and my pride in winning does not overshadow my desire to keep my car in one piece, this is all getting blown out of proportion. I guess to put it as simply and as innocently as possible, I want the car to have some get up and go. When I need power I want it there, that is all I am saying. Use it as you wish, from a stoplight or on a back mountain road. Whew! Glad that's over with.
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Re: But...

Originally posted by tallguylehigh
I understand about wreckless driving, but that is a bit of a stretch. I'm not talking about a designated race road with on a race night. I'm talking there's a 2 lane road at the light and 30 yards after the light it turns into a one lane. All I'm saying is I want to beat that guy before the road goes from two lane to one. :D
Actually the ironic thing is the "designated" races in remote areas in the middle of the night are much safer for the "general public".. It's the impromptu races at traffic lights for the upcoming 100 metres that usually end up with innocent people hurt. I'd rather see police let the night racing go on.. As long as only the participants are at risk fine, everyone makes a choice to do something risky for fun at least once in their life..

I think the "don't care" attitude comes with maturity.. I don't street race and couldn't give a rats *** if a ricer in a souped up civic or a yuppie in an BMW can beat me in a straight line race. Straight line racing is mostly the car.. It's the track with turns that seperates the men from the boys.. And to me all those people that think they are so great street racing are just that ... boys.

Now that said, if Mazda decided to give RX-8 300hp I would not say no.. :D
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Originally posted by Quick_lude

Actually the ironic thing is the "designated" races in remote areas in the middle of the night are much safer for the "general public".. It's the impromptu races at traffic lights for the upcoming 100 metres that usually end up with innocent people hurt. I'd rather see police let the night racing go on.. As long as only the participants are at risk fine, everyone makes a choice to do something risky for fun at least once in their life..

I think the "don't care" attitude comes with maturity.. I don't street race and couldn't give a rats *** if a ricer in a souped up civic or a yuppie in an BMW can beat me in a straight line race. Straight line racing is mostly the car.. It's the track with turns that seperates the men from the boys.. And to me all those people that think they are so great street racing are just that ... boys.

Now that said, if Mazda decided to give RX-8 300hp I would not say no.. :D
"men from the boys"... good line

Makes a very good point, as I really have little to no care for straight line racing. In fact, I don't even care about track racing. I just care about getting a car that will let me have my fun!
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The thing is, going over the speed limit on the streets is free...
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
The thing is, going over the speed limit on the streets is free...
That is by no means certain... it might cost you dearly.
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Yeah, but there are some straightaways that don't have any ajoining roads, they'll be pretty safe to go on, I'll only do it when the weather conditions are good, by the way.
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Yeah, but there are some straightaways that don't have any ajoining roads, they'll be pretty safe to go on, I'll only do it when the weather conditions are good, by the way.
I've gotten my Millenia up to 110, nothing thrilling in it.

Now trying to control a car at 80 mph around a curve, letting the rear and slide and countersteering... not only fun but requires a bit of skill
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That does sound like fun, and I'd much rather do that, but theres no place I can do that! I can't just do that on a normal road, cause then if I took the corner wrong and spun my tail out, I'd smash my rear into someone coming along the other way...
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
That does sound like fun, and I'd much rather do that, but theres no place I can do that! I can't just do that on a normal road, cause then if I took the corner wrong and spun my tail out, I'd smash my rear into someone coming along the other way...
You don't need to go 80 to have fun.

You can go 35 or 40 and have a BLAST! Two words though:

Parking lot
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Would it be better if the lot was wet?
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Originally posted by ilovepotatos
Would it be better if the lot was wet?
Don't know if Herc is referring to an organised circuit in a lot, but I've done some practising in a deserted lot.

Depends what you want, but probably yes... wet is better, then you can learn while going slower... but make SURE that it's deserted as I've had a few store owners call the police while I've been doing that.

For ultimate fun, I'd recommend about half and inch of snow... but that's another story... and make SURE it's a BIG lot... I spent hours practising skid control last time it snowed here.
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Plus if it was wet then the tires wouldn't go bald


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