swoope

iTrader: (5)

yep,
wtf this whole thing is shot to hell.

beers

yiksing

Ok Ike, the S2000 is faster than the 8 because of the hp or is it because of the lighter weight and the gear ratio?

swoope

iTrader: (5)

i would go with the honda hp is closer to the ad than mazdas.

check my sig. i love my car. the truth hurts sometimes.

and notice the thread starter is gone. it is one of THOSE THREADS... stir the coals.

beers

Raptor2k

S2000s get a consistent 15-20 more whp than an rx8's dyno, and it's about 200 lbs less, so it's a combination. Not sure about the gear ratios.

Now if Mazda would make a 2500-2700 lb roadster with a Renesis...

Ike

What Raptor said, gearing plays a small part as well. Mostly it's just good ole wheel horsepower.

kw1k

the gearing is 4.10s

mmats69

Elise?

TODreamer

Why do people insist on comparing the NA 8 to the FI FD?

Apparently the final drive ratio is 4.44

saturn

There's too many people that are too defensive about their cars. This guy isn't flaming the 8 or anything or the sort. Sounded like he had a great car, was encouraged to go test drive one, did, realized that the 8 just didn't live up to his expectations in the "kick in the pants" department, and then came here to get some advice from some people that would hopefully know more than he does about where the 8 is headed or some alternative cars. What is wrong with that?

You shouldn't have to be a certified expert on the 8 to have expectations and thoughts about the 8. Comparing it to the FD is probably apples to oranges in some ways, but there's nothing wrong with someone trying to do so when they're early in the game and don't know a ton about the 8.

scremn8

You shouldn't have to be a certified expert on the 8 to have expectations and thoughts about the 8. Comparing it to the FD is probably apples to oranges in some ways, but there's nothing wrong with someone trying to do so when they're early in the game and don't know a ton about the 8.[/QUOTE]


what he said..

9291150

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therm8

Final drive...but the 6spd's ratios on the S2000 are shorter and closer than the 8's.

sti_eric

Wow, that's got to be one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this forum. And that's saying a lot with the likes of roaddemon, 9291150, rotorocket, and wantan8 posting here. Obiviously you have never driven an Elise. I can assure you that it gives you that kick-in-the-pants feel in any gear. I'm sure the Ariel Atom (a car suggested in this thread) gives you that kick-in-the-pants feel even though it "only" has a wee little 2.0 liter engine and "only" 220 hp. And, I'm guessing that the 2.4 liter N/A engines being used in F1 cars just may give a little bit of a kick in the pants.

To the OP -
Z06, Boxster S, MB SLK, Cobra GT500, Ariel Atom, XK8, Z4 M, and M3 either already have an MSRP over your $50K limit, or adding ANY options will put you over $50K.

If you are looking for a car that is actually under $50K and will give you a kick in the pants, you have plenty to choose from, including: STi, Evo, base Corvette, GTO, just about any of the SRT vehicles (SRT4, Crossfire SRT6, 300C SRT8, Charger SRT8, Magnum SRT8, Cherokee SRT8), Crustang GT, IS350, 350Z. And, one that I am keeping an eye on is the soon-to-be released twin turbo BMW 335i.

Don't hold your breath on a FI RX-8.

TODreamer

I highly highly doubt that there will be an FI RX8 (mazdaspeed or whatever...)

Ike

Awwww doers the poor widdle fanboi not wike it when I don't talk about the RX-8 like it's a wocket ship.

BoB-O

I'm not gone. I'm reading carefully. Nobody asked me a question and I'm not trying to get into flame wars. Just trying to get info.

BoB

BunnyGirl

The sticker in the door of my car says the weight is 3810. It would be pretty amazing if they dropped 1000 pounds.

saturn

That's the GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight). That's the maximum recommended total weight of your car including passengers and cargo. The actual weight of the 8 is right about 3,000 lbs depending on options.

Raptor2k

^^

silly bunny

BunnyGirl

Guess I'd better do more than just glance at my sticker next time. LOL

BunnyGirl

I thought I heard the around 3000 pounds weight before and then I happened to notice the 3800 on the sticker but was getting out of my car at the time to get somewhere so I didn't actually stop and read it over carefully.

I know I have a ton of options packed in there but I didn't think I had that much extra weight. Guess I was right in thinking that sounded a little off. LOL

Tamas

iTrader: (1)

I'm right there with you.
My feeling is that the only FI RX-8s we will see are going to be the aftermarket ones. I really hope I'll have to eat my words sometime - alas, that doesn't seem to be likely.
Oh well - I still like my car. A lot, actually.

Rootski

iTrader: (1)

We just don't like it when you talk. Especially when you come on like you're America's answer to Jeremy Clarkson because you've test-driven a few cars.

RX26b

I never said the Elise wasn't quick. Of course it will be; that Yamaha mill only has to move 19xx pounds. Doesn't mean it slams you back in your seat like a Viper; which is exactly the feel that Bob was seeking.

As for the 2.4s in F1 cars, nope they don't kick. Ask any of the drivers in the field whether they jump out of corners like the 3.0s or 3.5s did years back. They rev to 19K and make their 700 hp at the top of the rev band.

Why don't you learn a little something before you go criticizing those more knowledgeable than you, you dumbass. Put that in your sig ********.

Raptor2k

LOL

it's time