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Started pre-mixing my 2011 R3

Old Aug 11, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Started pre-mixing my 2011 R3

A week ago I started pre-mixing with Protek-R on my 2011 R3. Right away I noticed a 'smoothing out' of the engine and it seems to be slightly 'peppier'. I have been checking for more soot than normal at the pipes and have noticed no difference. No flaming, just reporting observations.
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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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How much you using?
How many miles you got on the car?
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 04:25 AM
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How much you using?
How many miles you got on the car?
1 oz per 3 gallons of fuel, and I have just over 2,000 miles.
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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I love anecdotal evidence. And there will be more soot, that oil has to go somewhere.
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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^ Not exactly ... depending on the two stroke oil used, some burn cleaner than others and are "smokeless". Granted that doesn't mean there wont be ANY soot, but surely doesn't mean that there will be MORE
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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I might just be a total illusion, but I felt the engine sounded smoother after I started pre-mixing especially at higher RPM.

But I also feel the car has more horsepower after I wash it/wax it, so go figure
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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It may be hard to quantitatively measure more "smoothness" after using Protek-R premix, but the engine internals are being lubricated better, so it would follow that it would run smoother. I have used Protek-R for years in my rotaries ,having owned seven rotaries, and I also feel the engines rev easier.

It may be a purely subjective, but what is NOT subjective is that I have never had any engine troubles or a rotary engine failure while using Protek-R premix. Pettit Racing has loads of experience with street and race rotaries, and Protek-R is the result of years of rotary research and actual driving . It works for me ! And because it is a patented synthetic formula made to completely combust in rotary engines, you will NOT see any white ash coming out of your exhaust, I never have in years of use.

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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gwilliams6
It may hard to quantitatively measure more "smoothness" after using Protek-R premix, but the engine internals are being lubricated better, so it would follow that it would run smoother. I have used Protek-R for years in my rotaries ,having owned seven rotaries, and I also feel the engines rev easier.

It may be a purely subjective, but what is NOT subjective is that I have never had any engine troubles or a rotary engine failure while using Protek-R premix. Pettit Racing has loads of experience with street and race rotaries, and Protek-R is the result of years of rotary research and actual driving . It works for me ! And because it is a patented synthetic formula made to completely combust in rotary engines, you will NOT see any white ash coming out of your exhaust, I never have in years of use.
How much premix do you use? I would like to start premixing, and from what it sounds like that Protek would be the way to go. ^^
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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How much premix do you use? I would like to start premixing, and from what it sounds like that Protek would be the way to go. ^^
I use the Protek-R as well. Put 4 oz per tank. The guys at Pettit Racing claim to have evidence of engines having less internal wear when using their product.

The only other brand that claims the same is Royal Purple. Apparently they have done research too with rotaries.

But I theory, any Premix that has the right specifications should work just fine.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Also, they guys at Racing Beat recommend Royal Purple products for rotaries. If they recommend it I assume it is a good Premix !!
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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I might just be a total illusion, but I felt the engine sounded smoother after I started pre-mixing especially at higher RPM.

But I also feel the car has more horsepower after I wash it/wax it, so go figure



Look, I drive this car every day and I know when things feel different in the car.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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How much premix do you use? I would like to start premixing, and from what it sounds like that Protek would be the way to go. ^^
3 oz. per gallon of fuel.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OddEclipse
3 oz. per gallon of fuel.
That seems like a bit much... Pistonhater is the second person who has told me about 4 oz. per tank so I think I will try that first.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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3 oz per gallon!?..that's crazy...most people who use premix only run 4-6oz per tank.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Yeah, that's way too much IMO.
I do like 5 or 6oz per tank.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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I'm sorry... 1 oz per 3 gallons, my bad. Pettit Racing recommendations.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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^..............well, that's mo betta!
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Amsoil Interceptor 8oz per 18 gallons in my FD and still run the OMP
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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I'm guessing the Protek would be something that needs to be ordered online? I'll definitely look into it when I get home from work. Thanks for everyone's input. ^^
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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Link for Pettit Racing's Protek-R

http://shop.pettitracing.com/pettit_...r/g-62919.aspx

They recommend 4oz per tankful for normal driving, and more for racing applications.
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 05:03 AM
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^.......yep, but I prefer Idemitsu..........guess it's just a personal choice.
They rape you on getting the Idemitsu shipped though(Not Pettit...someone else).
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Pettit racing's Protek-R or some other good brand, it is a personal choice. I have owned seven rotary cars and can tell you Protek-R works for me. But get what you prefer, just premix. premix.premix.
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OddEclipse
I might just be a total illusion, but I felt the engine sounded smoother after I started pre-mixing especially at higher RPM.

But I also feel the car has more horsepower after I wash it/wax it, so go figure



Look, I drive this car every day and I know when things feel different in the car.
Dude, i was joking!!

The point is that, even though I felt a "smoothness" in my engine as well, in reality it would be very hard - if not impossible - to make a direct correlation between engine sound decibels and the use of pre-mix. Yes, the engine is better lubricated with premix, but we are talking about 4-6 oz of oil blended with 15 plus gallons of gas. Not enough to make the case. I guess it would be different for people who use twice the amount of premix - or more - when they race their cars at the track.

So at the end it may be more of a subjective thing. And it is true many people feel their cars run better after they wash them Anybody can claim anything, that's why there's a huge market out there of thousands of products that are supposed to do all kinds of things: fuel products, oil additives, etc. It is like going to buy multi-vitamins, they all claim to do something!!!

But at least the Protek-R and Royal Purple have been subjected to testing and research that shows their benefits in regards to better engine lubrication.

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^.......yep, but I prefer Idemitsu..........guess it's just a personal choice.
They rape you on getting the Idemitsu shipped though(Not Pettit...someone else).
The Protek-R is about $50 per gallon, plus I had to pay another $16 for shipping it all the way to NY But they used UPS, so it arrived during the same week I placed the order.
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Dude, i was joking!!

The point is that, even though I felt a "smoothness" in my engine as well, in reality it would be very hard - if not impossible - to make a direct correlation between engine sound decibels and the use of pre-mix. Yes, the engine is better lubricated with premix, but we are talking about 4-6 oz of oil blended with 15 plus gallons of gas. Not enough to make the case. I guess it would be different for people who use twice the amount of premix - or more - when they race their cars at the track.

So at the end it may be more of a subjective thing. And it is true many people feel their cars run better after they wash them Anybody can claim anything, that's why there's a huge market out there of thousands of products that are supposed to do all kinds of things: fuel products, oil additives, etc. It is like going to buy multi-vitamins, they all claim to do something!!!

But at least the Protek-R and Royal Purple have been subjected to testing and research that shows their benefits in regards to better engine lubrication.



The Protek-R is about $50 per gallon, plus I had to pay another $16 for shipping it all the way to NY But they used UPS, so it arrived during the same week I placed the order.
Better than this..................

One case = $67.00
Shipping = $26.84 (WTF?) They don't tell you this until AFTER you order! www.mazdatrix.com

Total = $93.84
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