Spirited driving with full load.
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Originally Posted by saturn
This thread is going nowhere. No one is going to be able to give you a qualified "yes" or "no" to your question. It's just too generic. Clearly, you're stressing everything in your car a little more with more people in it. Is it going to cause you to need to get an alignment or something? Doubtful. If it still feels ok, just go with it. If it doesn't, have someone look at it.
I agree with saturn........short of a suspension engineer responding to this thread, no one here is going to be able to answer your question. So, everyone else's comments are just going to be guesses......which are basically useless.
So here is my best guess......with the added weight of three additional adult passengers you would probably exceed the limits of the tires long before the limits of the suspension......so stop worrying.
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Excuse me but what is the point of getting a sports car if you aren't going to drive it spiritedly from time to time? There is suspension wear every day that you go out and drive it. Shocks loose their dampening force, rubber bushings get worn. They are wear items. Unless you hit something or bottoming out, i don't see how this would accelerate wear much more than if you drove that way alone. DRIVE!
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I can say this much, sports cars are made to be driven spiritedly. Other than increased wear on wheel bearings and suspension elements, you can actually break stuff.
by breaking stuff I mean you might lose control of your rear end and the wheels might slam into the curb and break your rear axle, driving with a full will make it easier for you to lose control. the side forces might also rip your rims right of the wheel hubs, although the wheels SHOULD lose traction long before that happens, I'm sure it happens next to never.
I've done some stupid passing on curves in my life which scared the crap out of me while and after I did it, I'd only drive hard on a track an empty road or a large vacant parking lot with nothing to run into.
by breaking stuff I mean you might lose control of your rear end and the wheels might slam into the curb and break your rear axle, driving with a full will make it easier for you to lose control. the side forces might also rip your rims right of the wheel hubs, although the wheels SHOULD lose traction long before that happens, I'm sure it happens next to never.
I've done some stupid passing on curves in my life which scared the crap out of me while and after I did it, I'd only drive hard on a track an empty road or a large vacant parking lot with nothing to run into.
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Originally Posted by saturn
One time, I was doing some spirited driving on my way home because I had a "full load" in my colon. I took a turn too fast and I sharted. That's the real consequence of driving hard with a full load.
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this post is dumb to me
you can fill the car to the top and hook up two trailors and it'll be fine .. it's show-off-driving thats a problem here not wear of the car
do your shoes wear out more when you run through mud or when you walk on carpet .. nah .. dont feel like saying anythign else
you can fill the car to the top and hook up two trailors and it'll be fine .. it's show-off-driving thats a problem here not wear of the car
do your shoes wear out more when you run through mud or when you walk on carpet .. nah .. dont feel like saying anythign else
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I was really just wondering if other people have done much spirited driving with 4 people in the car, and if so did it cause any problems. As far as filling the car to the top and hauling trailers while driving hard, obviously that could cause problems. The shoe analogy, not a good comparison. Thanks for responding though.
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I'd wager that most of the accidents that occur with 4+ occupants are probably more due to the fact that teens and young adults are driving with thier friends which are either a distraction or an impetus to show off and "overdrive" the car.
I can see additional wear on the engine, tranny, differential, axles, tires, brakes, frame, suspension etc since all of these systems will be affected by the car having to cope with the additional load.
Of course, it's a continuum, not a binary state.
Is it harder on the car? Yes.
Will it break your car? There's no easy way to tell.
Will it put more wear on various components than if you did the same thing with a lighter load? Definitely.
How much depends on how much (additional mass, how hard you push it, etc).
I can see additional wear on the engine, tranny, differential, axles, tires, brakes, frame, suspension etc since all of these systems will be affected by the car having to cope with the additional load.
Of course, it's a continuum, not a binary state.
Is it harder on the car? Yes.
Will it break your car? There's no easy way to tell.
Will it put more wear on various components than if you did the same thing with a lighter load? Definitely.
How much depends on how much (additional mass, how hard you push it, etc).
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Originally Posted by Rhythmic
So, it's clear that it's dumb to drive really hard into corners with four people in the car. And I regret doing it. But, is there any real risk of excess wear or damage to suspension components compared with only having a couple of people in the car?
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Generally speaking, you'd skid off and crash before you could inflict enough forces to structurally damage the car, if that's what you're asking.
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Originally Posted by StewC625
I recently took my three sons (10, 10, and 13 - about 300 lbs between them), and a full trunk load of crap on a 300 mile drive in my car - the first thing I noticed is that the weight of the car compressed the rear suspension enough that the rear wheels were noticably "cambered" in at the top - Porsche style.
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Hahahahaaaaaa........
Ok, here's my 2 cents.... with the extra weight you can overload the tire traction at lower speed. Like someone said earlier the limit is just lower with the extra weight. You are not damaging anything but if you did hear your suspension ran out of travel at the rear, frequent occurrence will damage something.
Ok, here's my 2 cents.... with the extra weight you can overload the tire traction at lower speed. Like someone said earlier the limit is just lower with the extra weight. You are not damaging anything but if you did hear your suspension ran out of travel at the rear, frequent occurrence will damage something.
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Originally Posted by StewC625
I recently took my three sons (10, 10, and 13 - about 300 lbs between them), and a full trunk load of crap
Originally Posted by juanjux
You mean like this?
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