speed in 3rd gear
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I wasn't aware the Japanese model had a 6 speed MT with different ratios, just the optional 5 speed MT? 
Ahh well... good enough for me, those numbers are well within the margin of error if there is such a transmission out there.
Ahh well... good enough for me, those numbers are well within the margin of error if there is such a transmission out there.
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To recap the evidence I have put forward in this thread
1/Video showing my speedo at 163km/hr in 3rd gear at approx 8900 rpm
2/Video of Gtech run showing 100mph at the end of the run - and you can clearly hear me change from 3rd into 4th at that point.
3/Anecdotal evidence from three other posters that their JDM RX8's go over 100mph in 3rd
4/A specification chart that shows JDM RX8s with a third gear ratio of 1.539 vs the US spec RX8 with 1.645
5/All the calcs shown above that further confirm what I've been saying all along .
And what has MM put forward ?
Red hearings about tyre size and actual speed .....
1/Video showing my speedo at 163km/hr in 3rd gear at approx 8900 rpm
2/Video of Gtech run showing 100mph at the end of the run - and you can clearly hear me change from 3rd into 4th at that point.
3/Anecdotal evidence from three other posters that their JDM RX8's go over 100mph in 3rd
4/A specification chart that shows JDM RX8s with a third gear ratio of 1.539 vs the US spec RX8 with 1.645
5/All the calcs shown above that further confirm what I've been saying all along .
And what has MM put forward ?
Red hearings about tyre size and actual speed .....
My car does 125 mph in third gear.
Transmission 4-speed Sport mode automatic transmission with paddle shifters
6-speed manual with short throw shifter
Gear ratios: ,,,, 4 AT ,,,,,,, 6 MT
1st ---------------2.785-----3.760
2nd --------------1.545-----2.269
3rd ---------------1.000-----1.645
4th--------------- 0.694-----1.18
5th--------------- --- - ------1.000
6th -------------- --- - ------0.843
Reverse --------- 2.272 ---3.564
Final Drive4 ---- 4.444 ----4.444
Transmission 4-speed Sport mode automatic transmission with paddle shifters
6-speed manual with short throw shifter
Gear ratios: ,,,, 4 AT ,,,,,,, 6 MT
1st ---------------2.785-----3.760
2nd --------------1.545-----2.269
3rd ---------------1.000-----1.645
4th--------------- 0.694-----1.18
5th--------------- --- - ------1.000
6th -------------- --- - ------0.843
Reverse --------- 2.272 ---3.564
Final Drive4 ---- 4.444 ----4.444
Last edited by Easy_E1; Jul 30, 2008 at 04:44 PM.
the dreaded auto-tragic?!? 
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and just found this as well .
MM is still calling me an idiot and insisting i'm wrong on this - what will it take to convince him ??????
http://www.j-garage.com/mazda/rx-8/03spec.htm
MM is still calling me an idiot and insisting i'm wrong on this - what will it take to convince him ??????
http://www.j-garage.com/mazda/rx-8/03spec.htm
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and just found this as well .
MM is still calling me an idiot and insisting i'm wrong on this - what will it take to convince him ??????
http://www.j-garage.com/mazda/rx-8/03spec.htm
MM is still calling me an idiot and insisting i'm wrong on this - what will it take to convince him ??????
http://www.j-garage.com/mazda/rx-8/03spec.htm
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well to me it is pretty clear what I've been trying to argue and what this whole thread is about :
That my JDM rx8 (and indeed all JDM 8s) has a different 3rd gear ratio to US spec rx8s . Simple enough
Read the thread title and my first post if you don't believe me .
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From another thread
Idiot
Slightly different deal over there. You weren't even trying to leverage any real argument other than your assertion that your personal observations were unimpeachable. That is why I gave up.
I looked at your math, BTW and you screwed it up so badly that there is no way I can even stomach to look at it again. I am NOT going to beat my head against your wall.
You win.
Your RX-8 is special.
There is no other '04 in the world as special as yours.
It has magical powers and the guys at Hiroshima knew that you needed that added legroom in 3rd gear.
At least Falken had the light come on and tell him he was missing some point somewhere, even if he didn't grasp it.
You just refused to even accept the idea that you were asking the wrong question, let alone coming to the wrong conclusion.
You can have that be your 5% - it buys me a pass for when I really do get something wrong...
I looked at your math, BTW and you screwed it up so badly that there is no way I can even stomach to look at it again. I am NOT going to beat my head against your wall.
You win.
Your RX-8 is special.
There is no other '04 in the world as special as yours.
It has magical powers and the guys at Hiroshima knew that you needed that added legroom in 3rd gear.
At least Falken had the light come on and tell him he was missing some point somewhere, even if he didn't grasp it.
You just refused to even accept the idea that you were asking the wrong question, let alone coming to the wrong conclusion.
You can have that be your 5% - it buys me a pass for when I really do get something wrong...
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Brettus,
Congratulations on looking like a whiner. If you think you've won an internet argument, I will buy you a virtual crown so you can bask in your amazingness.
Meanwhile I guess you will keep on bumping this thread with no other purpose than to continue to point out that you and MM disagree on something. Good job. You are awesome.
Congratulations on looking like a whiner. If you think you've won an internet argument, I will buy you a virtual crown so you can bask in your amazingness.
Meanwhile I guess you will keep on bumping this thread with no other purpose than to continue to point out that you and MM disagree on something. Good job. You are awesome.
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^ I personally think Brettus has won the argument Jason......no seriously
he did,he's been saying the gearings are different the entire thread, and in the end, they are I suppose
so yes, he did win, he didn't tie for first
he did,he's been saying the gearings are different the entire thread, and in the end, they are I suppose
so yes, he did win, he didn't tie for first
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My point is that it doesn't matter if he won or not. It's in bad form to just bump this thread repeatedly with comments like "idiot"
Any perceived gain he might have had is lost to the viewer, he just looks childish now.
Big ******* deal if his ratios are different anyway.
Any perceived gain he might have had is lost to the viewer, he just looks childish now.
Big ******* deal if his ratios are different anyway.
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I think we should give him some props for at least standing up to what he believed, and coming out on top at that
good job bret
and dude, it wasn't a big deal until he got 500000000000 flame post on him for saying that it is different
ps: for normal people who doesn't give a flying F about "old timers" on this board, you were wrong = you were wrong, let him bask in his glory, seriously, just let him be, this thread will sooner or later die anyways........
good job bret
and dude, it wasn't a big deal until he got 500000000000 flame post on him for saying that it is different
ps: for normal people who doesn't give a flying F about "old timers" on this board, you were wrong = you were wrong, let him bask in his glory, seriously, just let him be, this thread will sooner or later die anyways........
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My point is that it doesn't matter if he won or not. It's in bad form to just bump this thread repeatedly with comments like "idiot"
Any perceived gain he might have had is lost to the viewer, he just looks childish now.
Big ******* deal if his ratios are different anyway.
Any perceived gain he might have had is lost to the viewer, he just looks childish now.
Big ******* deal if his ratios are different anyway.
But you are right - I should not have said that . MM drove me to it so I guess he did "win"
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kids.....haha wow i can't believe they are still arguing ok wow your car goes faster in 3rd gear you should not b goin that fast anywhere except a track anyway because there are such things as speed limits so if it's fast sweet if not ok we are all in the same boat....
Test the 3rd gear going uphill and done 165km/h might do more but the beep sound was on so i changed gear...
I read the whole thread, and I knew what you were getting at the entire time. I think MM knew it too, but was just too stubborn to admit he's wrong and was hoping he could scare you away with his superior wikipedia regurgitating abilities. For a second there though, I was starting to believe that the guy somehow gained some supernatural knowledge because he had taken apart several JDM transmissions. That he somehow KNEW that yours can't be any different, because he knows about EVERY single JDM transmission ever built for the RX-8, down to the serial numbers....
JDM omnipotence...
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oh for ***** sake. how did i miss out on this garbage for two years? i found it by brettus' finger wagging earlier tonight. buncha newbs. as with everythign else the 3rd gear difference was discussed way before this thread- even before first car was delivered when the final specs were announced the first week of January 2003
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=108 Japanese Gearing ratios confirmed
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=167 US Spec gear ratios
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buncha newbs.
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=108 Japanese Gearing ratios confirmed
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=167 US Spec gear ratios
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buncha newbs.
Do you really want to start this up again?
