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ultrafit1 11-22-2003 09:53 PM

Somethings that might be neat iin the years to come.
 
This is the most fun car ever, but there are a few things I would like on my wish list:) . 1. Driver preset adjustments. The guys a the dealer always mess up my seat. And when the wife drives the seat gets changed. 2. How about auto up windows, when driving fast i like to keep both hands on wheel. 3. Convertable :D Any body else have any wishes !!!!!!:)

zoomzooomp5 11-22-2003 10:14 PM

I just can't wait for the Mazdaspeed part and all after market parts to start hit the market. It's one hell of a rid already and I just want to make it better.

RX-GR8 11-22-2003 10:47 PM

without breaking that warranty.

8_wannabe 11-22-2003 10:56 PM

Folding rear seats.

RX-GR8 11-22-2003 11:35 PM


Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Folding rear seats.
had them in my eclipse GSX hatchback. came in handy many times.

rx8ntexas 11-22-2003 11:40 PM

I wish those little pop out windows in the back were automatic...like on my expedition I can vent my side windows when it's hot....there is a control for each side....that'd be one of those little things that would be way cool.

RX-GR8 11-23-2003 12:05 AM


Originally posted by rx8ntexas
I wish those little pop out windows in the back were automatic...like on my expedition I can vent my side windows when it's hot....there is a control for each side....that'd be one of those little things that would be way cool.
agree the family dodge caravn has them why not the 8?

Sin 11-23-2003 12:19 AM

More power from the factory

CERAMICSEAL 11-23-2003 12:39 AM

What I would wish for might be a little more on the technical side:an oil metering system that does not use oil from the cankcase or sump (for lack of a better term) but from a separate tank, carrying a sensor that would indicate low level.These cars use more oil than most people realise.I think it's unacceptable in this day and age for folks to have to be constantly check any levels. It isn't the case with piston engine motors and it shoudn't be that way here.The other suggestion I would make is some sort of fuel delay when cranking (1 or 2 seconds) helping to reduce the opportunity of flooding.I hope people acknowledge now that the flooding thing is not a myth; it's most common though with weak batteries,
I hope that was in the spirit of the thread.

Racer X-8 11-23-2003 01:27 AM

Ah! The folding rear seats is a pet peeve of mine. I do understand the cross bracing there though & I guess I prefer the cross bracing. Oh well.

Auto rear windows does make sense. You definitely can't open them from the front seats.

More power from the factory. Yeah. Good one. It oughta be. They made the car, then nothing. Third party stuff risks warranty problems. It doesn't add-up.

An oil metering reservoir is the best yet! Could that be retrofitted, or is that too internal to the engine? It's late at night & my mind won't go there any more. Great idea though! Man, you're right! Why not? That would leave the oil in the sump unchanging in its level. Why compromise on the lubricant level for the engine internals? The reservoir could be like a whole gallon, good from the top, all the way to the bottom, with a sensor at the bottom, of course. Great idea. MAZDA?!?! DUH?!?!

What is this fuel delay thingy? I don't understand - please elaborate...

Omicron 11-23-2003 01:47 AM

I agree with everything said so far, especially more power. I vote for a supercharger, and an output of 300 WHP. :D Also, adjustable pedals, and lighted sunroof controls.

meeh 11-23-2003 01:54 AM

Hmm.. lets see what i'd wish to be added:

I would like the alarm to be integrated with the key and the key being programmable like bmw does. Maintenance reminder (like it would tell you when to go have your car serviced, based on the way one drives the car). Doors to lock automatically when the wheels start moving after a certain speed and doors unlock when I pull the key out of the ignition. Up/down one touch window for all windows and sunroof. Mp3 title to scroll automatically. Adjustable seatbelt. Trunk open button somewhere near the trunk. Lumbar support to be 4 way. Make the oil dipstick easier to access (since it needs to often be checked). Compass on the rear view mirror.

Sorry for the long list . Keeping my fingers crossed. Guess I just got used to my other car that i traded in having these features..that I miss.

Nubo 11-23-2003 01:59 AM

Analog speedometer
Analog oil pressure gauge

Wishing big -- totally HUD instrumentation.

I also like the idea of a separate oil reservoir. This way absolutely clean oil could be used and furthermore it could be spec'd perfectly as needed for its function. No more synth vs. dino debates. Just give me a part number for "Mazda rotary-engine oil injector lubricant".

CERAMICSEAL 11-23-2003 09:01 AM

Yep, that's the point.Apart from not playing with the level required for bearings and internal rotor cooling the synthetic debate definitely no longer would be an issue.Mazda could even sell their own specific metering lube (and offset the costs of the apparatus. As for the fuel delay, in the old vehicles (espcially 86-91) I tend to modify the fuel pump by removing it's check valve. In so doing the fuel returns to the tank when the car is switched off vs being at the rail under pressure.

Rotary Nut 11-23-2003 09:30 AM

Provide better lighting for the switches on the doors and change the icon for the window switches from the three piddley dots to an icon of a window. My wife continuosly search for the window button and she has actually used the door lock button to no avail!

Extend the lenght of the dipstick so it is a bit easier to locate and reinsert.

Provide a telescopic capability to the steering wheel.

Automatic windshield wipers!

Although I love the shape of the brake handle maybe it could be redesigned to fit flush with the console. I always see it out the corner of my eye and think that the dang thing is still engaged!

Move the cup holders a little more forward to make access easier.

Get rid of the holes/dots in the sun visors and make them solid.

Rotary Nut 11-23-2003 09:32 AM


Originally posted by Nubo
Analog oil pressure gauge

My oil pressure gauge is analog! ;)

Rx-Appreci-8 11-23-2003 12:36 PM

Love my car. This is not a complaint list - just ideas for next year to make a great car even better :cool:

Convertible (option)
Turbo (option)

Oil reservoir with oil level indicator on dash
Oil dipstick design that does not require removing plastic cover for access.

Charging system dash indicator (volts and amps)

Get rid of nag screen on NAV (maybe after Nth display)
Display rear view on NAV when backing up

Graphic Equalizer on radio
Sat radio option

Compass on mirror

Larger fuel tank & improved gas mileage

Fold down rear seats
Stronger air conditioning for those of us in HOT climates

Auto headlight shut off

Don't remove anything from the Little Things Thread next year!
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...=Little+Things

Racer X-8 11-23-2003 01:38 PM


Originally posted by Rotary Nut
My oil pressure gauge is analog! ;)
Nope. It's really digital. It just looks analog. I know this is hard to believe, but it's true. Search for some old threads on it if you wish...

Btw, some more great ideas...I'm impressed with the lists so far!

Rotary Nut 11-23-2003 03:25 PM

???:confused:

Your speedo is digital, your oil pressure is analog!

As defined by my Electrical Engineers desk reference:

An analog indicator is defined as any mechanical indicator that contains a needle that swings between two fixed points (also refered to a D'varsonal movement) regardles of the signal recieved.

:D

Racer X-8 11-23-2003 03:54 PM

How about we use the term "discrete" then? The signal is either "on" or "off". OK?

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/oil-pressure-gauge-functional-faux-1858/

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=12876

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/oil-pressure-question-7341/

Nubo 11-23-2003 04:09 PM


Originally posted by Rotary Nut
???:confused:

Your speedo is digital, your oil pressure is analog!

As defined by my Electrical Engineers desk reference:

An analog indicator is defined as any mechanical indicator that contains a needle that swings between two fixed points (also refered to a D'varsonal movement) regardles of the signal recieved.

:D

Nevertheless, it is not displaying analog information (actual lb/in^2); it's simply an "idiot light" made to look like an analog gauge. A special boot to the head to whoever spec'd this. Someone from Ford, no doubt.

Rotary Nut 11-23-2003 04:26 PM

Yes I agree. I wasn't trying to start an argument here. I was basing my disertation on what he was refering to based on what he had stated not on what he was infering. Sorry for any inconvienence!

I was refering to what he said about an analog "gauge" I did not see anything refering to the signal it was refering to but the actual type of gauge movement itself.

I have seen those threads. I interperted them to mean that there is no actual pressure measuriment/reading. The sending unit is designed to turn on when a specific pressure is reached and will switch off when the pressure in the transducer falls below a specific PSI. I was wondering that maybe a simple change of the sending unit would do the trick!

Gord96BRG 11-23-2003 05:09 PM


Originally posted by Nubo
Nevertheless, it is not displaying analog information (actual lb/in^2); it's simply an "idiot light" made to look like an analog gauge. A special boot to the head to whoever spec'd this. Someone from Ford, no doubt.
Nope, not Ford, it was someone from Mazda's Customer Service Department, combined with their Accounting Department - back in 1995! The first Miatas had a proper analog oil pressure gauge. Mazda got tired of the endless phone calls from owners who had never seen a real OPG before, and who never bothered to read the manual. "My oil pressure is moving around all the time!" "My oil pressure is low at idle" "My oil pressure is real high when I rev the engine when it's cold". All perfectly normal, yet they had way too many calls from people asking silly questions. Also, the on/off type of sender and gauge head are significantly cheaper than the proper analog equivalents, so between those two factors Mazda switched the Miata from the real gauge to the idiot (on/off) gauge for the 1995 model year. The RX-8 just continues that usage (as the Miata still does too).

Regards,
Gordon

s13lover 11-23-2003 05:11 PM

Free:D so i can have one now.

rx-7~rx-8 11-23-2003 05:23 PM

12 Rotor rx-8.. just kiddin...
Having night vision in the rx-8 would be cool
different powerplant, 2 rotor ... 3 rotor ... kind of like I4 or V6
vertical doors that open up... \_/

Nubo 11-23-2003 06:11 PM


Originally posted by Gord96BRG
Nope, not Ford, it was someone from Mazda's Customer Service Department, combined with their Accounting Department - back in 1995! The first Miatas had a proper analog oil pressure gauge. Mazda got tired of the endless phone calls from owners who had never seen a real OPG before, and who never bothered to read the manual. "My oil pressure is moving around all the time!" "My oil pressure is low at idle" "My oil pressure is real high when I rev the engine when it's cold". All perfectly normal, yet they had way too many calls from people asking silly questions. Also, the on/off type of sender and gauge head are significantly cheaper than the proper analog equivalents, so between those two factors Mazda switched the Miata from the real gauge to the idiot (on/off) gauge for the 1995 model year. The RX-8 just continues that usage (as the Miata still does too).

Regards,
Gordon

Thanks for the info. That's too bad. The oil pressure gauge is a useful way to determine if the engine is truly "warmed up". Ah well, I guess there's a project down the road. Maybe someday I'll get my scissoring tach/speedo gauge too :)

Rotary Nut 11-23-2003 06:20 PM


[i]
vertical doors that open up... \_/ [/B]
Kewl!

Weld up the two doors and put them on gull wing hinges. Or maybe with hydraulic lifts. Now that would be killer!!

Just imagine the looks you would get at the local K-mart when you get in or out of that!

:D

bobclevenger 11-23-2003 09:14 PM

We all want the automotive Holy Grail: more power on less fuel!

The separate oil supply idea is great.
I'd also like to see:

A CD changer that reads CD-text info.

Vehicle status included on the Nav display -- such things as compass (that actually looks like a compass and reads out your actual heading), current MPG, mpg since reset, and full engine instrumentation. This would make for a cluttered display, so make it switchable.

An auxiliary power socket that is powered all the time.

A little larger centre console for larger items that you still want to keep handy.

All options available in all markets, and available on an a-la-carte basis -- no having to take a whole package just to get one or two items.

Integrated cell phone (Bluetooth?) with auto-answer and speakerphone that automatically lowers the stereo volume.

An auxiliary audio "line-in" jack in the centre console or glove box (console preferred).

True dual exhaust system (unless there is a technical reason not to). Two rotors, two exhaust pipes; it just makes sense.

Auto-up and auto-down on both windows with retained power for a few minutes.

Two-door/four-door option -- some of us don't need the back doors, and wider front doors would be preferred.

True hatchback design and more room for the (standard!) spare tire.

Wow! It's hard to think of ways to improve this car that are legal.

ultrafit1 11-24-2003 02:46 PM

All great ideas.. How about this one a gear indicator light that would tell you what gear your in !!!!!

jonalan 11-24-2003 04:13 PM


Originally posted by ultrafit1
..... a gear indicator light that would tell you what gear your in !!!!!
I was thinking about that myself.

I also agree with the power rear windows. I would love to open them to get a good cross breeze, but they're WAY TOO inconvenient to open.

stangmatt66 11-24-2003 05:16 PM

Here's my list:
 
- Auto headlights
- Power rear windows
- Move interior trunk release to the door
- Auto up/down front windows (my $15k Golf had these!!!)
- Make gas filler flap release electonic and move to door with trunk release
- Integrated key fob and key, like Audi/VW
- Move cupholders forward
- 5 speed auto trans with more power
- Glue on exterior badges so they can be easily removed
- Telescoping steering wheel (again, $15k Golf had this)
- Adjustable seat belts
- Auto open/close sunroof
- Satellite radio option
- Climate control

I'm sure I'll think of more later...but this is a start...

P00Man 11-24-2003 05:48 PM

-auto on/off headlights
-bi-xenon
-integrated key with controls
-auto up/down windows
-power rear vents
-auto sunroof
-toggleable trip computer that will display:
current mpg
drivable distance on tank
front tire pressure for both tires (not REALLY neccessary)
rear tire pressure for both tires (not REALLY neccessary)
trip a
trip b
these can be toggled through with a button on the rear/front (doesnt matter the location i suppose) of the steering wheel
________
OUTDOOR COUPLE

rx-7~rx-8 11-24-2003 05:58 PM

5 or 6 speed auto... like some you said... mazda would increase sales by having a high pwer auto... they would a sale from me... half the Z's are automatic ... cause the power is there with the auto.

Rotary Nut 11-26-2003 02:35 PM

Another thing that would be nice would be auto tilting side mirrors.

Considering that the car has such a high beltline and it is hard to see when backing into a parking space (i'm 5'4").

My 2002 VW Passat W8 had these mirrors that would tilt down to a preset position when shifting the car into reverse. You could put into reverse and adjust the mirror so you could see the line or the car next to you or whatnot and upon shifting into drive or first gear, the mirror would return to its original position.

This is one feature that I really miss. I sometimes must open the door to see the line and the position of the car in the parking stall.

Gord96BRG 11-26-2003 03:00 PM


Originally posted by rx-7~rx-8
5 or 6 speed auto... like some you said... mazda would increase sales by having a high pwer auto... they would a sale from me... half the Z's are automatic ... cause the power is there with the auto.
The RX-8 WILL have a 5 speed auto, and a 6 speed SMG, as options for the 2006 model year at the latest. It will handle the revs and power of the high power engine.

Regards,
Gordon

Magnesium 12-01-2003 06:30 PM

Most of all, I think a light under the hood to see the dipstick receptor. It's a pain looking down there in the dark and find where it goes.

Nubo 12-02-2003 02:06 AM


Originally posted by Rotary Nut
Another thing that would be nice would be auto tilting side mirrors.

Considering that the car has such a high beltline and it is hard to see when backing into a parking space (i'm 5'4").

My 2002 VW Passat W8 had these mirrors that would tilt down to a preset position when shifting the car into reverse. You could put into reverse and adjust the mirror so you could see the line or the car next to you or whatnot and upon shifting into drive or first gear, the mirror would return to its original position.

This is one feature that I really miss. I sometimes must open the door to see the line and the position of the car in the parking stall.

You can get a little stick-on convex mirror that applies to the side mirror. They come in small sizes and I find them useful for gauging rear traffic. Also lets you see parking lines without opening the door. Not everyone likes them but I do. Not as neat as auto-tilting mirrors but they work.

-=Zeqs=- 12-02-2003 07:32 PM


Originally posted by Nubo
You can get a little stick-on convex mirror that applies to the side mirror. They come in small sizes and I find them useful for gauging rear traffic. Also lets you see parking lines without opening the door. Not everyone likes them but I do. Not as neat as auto-tilting mirrors but they work.
I wouldn't feel right looking at a 3 dollar mirror within my side rear-view mirrors on my brand new 30K sports car.

mikeb 12-02-2003 07:40 PM


Originally posted by -=Zeqs=-
I wouldn't feel right looking at a 3 dollar mirror within my side rear-view mirrors on my brand new 30K sports car.
ditto

but they might help from chrashing your 30k car

RedJade 12-02-2003 09:34 PM

I love my 8, but since you asked.....
 

- CLIMATE CONTROL
- auto headlights
- interior oil level gauge
- cup holder moved forward
- auto seat controls on the center console
- CLIMATE CONTROL
- integrated key/remote
- auto lock doors when car engages
- option to have the entire car with a clear 3M coating
- integrated phone
- CLIMATE CONTROL
- better sound system
- dual sun visors to cover front and side windows if needed
- random play for all 6 CDs
- option to add Nav system after market (my fault, not Mazda's)
- CLIMATE CONTROL
- peel off stickers on the sun visors.....heck I will even sign a waiver to have those off
- power after the ignition is off to close the sun roof
- auto window up
- auto sun roof close
- CLIMATE CONTROL

Did I mention Climate Control?
Yes, yes, I know the aussies and brits have it.......sigh......

:)

DocTorCold 12-02-2003 10:55 PM

Here is a thought. Why not have three
spark plugs per roter instead of two? It seems to me that the biggest complaint so far is the poor gas milage. If you have three, one at each end of TDC and one in the middle, then fuel burn would be more thorough and HP would increase. It would also improve fuel economy. Just a thought.... But the engineers probably thought about that too. Probably too good of an idea.

CERAMICSEAL 12-02-2003 11:10 PM

The R26B 4rotor engine uses this configuration for those exact benefits(although minor). I don't know what the implications would be in a production engine.

TurboRX8Girl 12-03-2003 12:04 AM

Random on all 6 cd for sure - (hard to believe we'd have to ask)
Climate control - (Pisses me off that you can see the impression in the logicon for it)
E-brake flush
Auto Seat Presets
MPG status
Oil Metering Tank - (2 cycle mix) with auto motor oil bypass
Dimmable white gauge cluster - (only dimmable in orange mode, and too bright in white mode)
Single button sun roof - (Like the 3rd gen RX-7)
Rotor Shaped radio cluster ring - (What's with the circle?)
Accurate water temp gauge - (Looks like mazda still doesn't want us to know how hot the rotary runs)
Quick Shift Auto in manual mode - (feels a bit too slow)
Better window buttons - (I think they forgot or ran out of time to do a focus group on this area)
Louder door lock actuators - (Just a personal thing. I like to hear them lock rather than turn around to see the lights flash)
Adapt the tail lights of a late 3rd gen 7

Rotary Nut 12-03-2003 03:57 AM

You can adjust the white instrumentation just as you would adjust the red, roll the knob. Mine changes!

Omicron 12-31-2003 08:23 AM

How about better door hold-open detents?

jonalan 12-31-2003 03:56 PM


Originally posted by Magnesium
Most of all, I think a light under the hood to see the dipstick receptor. It's a pain looking down there in the dark and find where it goes.
I could not agree more! I have four 75-watt lights in my garage and I still can't see the dipstick receptor.

moRotorMotor 12-31-2003 08:07 PM

This does absolutely nothing to benefit the performance but wouldn't it be cool to have our analog gauges do a full sweep everytime we start our magnificent 8? I think it adds to the already huge "cool" factor of the car :)

Maximus 12-31-2003 08:43 PM

my wish-list includes features related to the seating position that I believe are very important to best enjoy your rx8 drive:

1- driver seat memory
2- telescopic steering wheel
3- power adjustable padels ... like in Nissan Titan for ajusting distance from the steering wheel.

Titan's Power Adjustable Pedals are connected to the memory system, so you can program settings for two different drivers. I think #2 and #3 above should get you into that perfect seating position.

rjenk 12-31-2003 11:43 PM


Originally posted by Rotary Nut
Get rid of the holes/dots in the sun visors and make them solid.
Actually I think this is a great feature. Makes it nice that you can have your visor down to block the sunlight and still see the stop light and not be blinded. To me, a simple idea that should have been thought of long ago.

supa-gee 01-03-2004 02:22 AM

The factory radio looks nice, but I'd like to be able to upgrade to an in-dash DVD/TV/CD/MP3...

How about a driver side handle to help with the dismount from the cockpit...

A larger trunk opening or folding seats...

An easier way to engage reverse... (I ended up in a ditch trying to make a 3 pt. turn and didn't fully engage) yeah I'm a new manual driver :(


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