Sensitive subject, the true HP rating of a stock RX-8
09-23-2009, 10:58 AM
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Sensitive subject, the true HP rating of a stock RX-8
I know the car is rated for 232HP and 159FT-LB torque. Who on here thinks the number might be on the high side? I personally think the number is overflated slightly, I think the number is probably around 210-220HP stock.
This is not about if the car is good or not, it is simply an opinion on the car's reported figures. Think of it like Tom Cruise saying he is 5'11.
This is not about if the car is good or not, it is simply an opinion on the car's reported figures. Think of it like Tom Cruise saying he is 5'11.
09-23-2009, 11:03 AM
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tmak: are we talking at the flywheel or to the wheels?
I believe the 232 figure is about accurate.
I've done 203 whp
I believe the 232 figure is about accurate.
I've done 203 whp
09-23-2009, 11:38 AM
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I think the stock rx8 makes right about 220-225 flywheel. People bash on the 8 a lot for being slow, but when you get right down to it, the 8 has a list of specs which put it on the list of elite road cars of all time.
-RWD
-over 200 bhp. (ok so not a lot of power but certainly enough to be sporting)
-LSD and IRS
-manual gearbox (no flappy paddle i never learned how to shift bullshit)
-motor, transmission, fuel tank, all within the car's wheelbase
-Sporty, rev happy, durable motor with great, crisp, sporty sound
-overall good looks from any angle
-3000 pounds or less curb weight
Now seriously, look at that list and think of all the cars throughout history which cover all of those. There really aren't that many. Everything on the list is critical, and the 8 has em all.
So what if the 8 takes more than 6 seconds to get to sixty? I guarantee you it is still faster than 99% of cars on the road in any given area of america. Not 99% of the models made currently, I just mean literally 99% of the cars actually being driven around america right now.
-RWD
-over 200 bhp. (ok so not a lot of power but certainly enough to be sporting)
-LSD and IRS
-manual gearbox (no flappy paddle i never learned how to shift bullshit)
-motor, transmission, fuel tank, all within the car's wheelbase
-Sporty, rev happy, durable motor with great, crisp, sporty sound
-overall good looks from any angle
-3000 pounds or less curb weight
Now seriously, look at that list and think of all the cars throughout history which cover all of those. There really aren't that many. Everything on the list is critical, and the 8 has em all.
So what if the 8 takes more than 6 seconds to get to sixty? I guarantee you it is still faster than 99% of cars on the road in any given area of america. Not 99% of the models made currently, I just mean literally 99% of the cars actually being driven around america right now.
09-23-2009, 12:28 PM
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Your 08 is not 3000lbs curb weight, my 06 base is exactly 3000. I am not sure how yours can be any lighter stock?
Your list is kind of corny, no offense. It's like an STI driver saying how many cars are AWD under 2.5L and have turbos...
Your list is kind of corny, no offense. It's like an STI driver saying how many cars are AWD under 2.5L and have turbos...
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Hymee's engine dyno of pre-supercharger showed 232hp. I think the number is right on. Anything lower and your car has health issues.
Ignition(battery, coils, plugs, wires, alternator, etc...), compression, breathing(intake, filter, cat, exhaust), or fluid resistance (engine, transmission, or diff oil)
For example, the guy from KONI noted in his dyno process that they get the fluids to the right temperature. The Diff fluid being ambient normally meant a loss of 5hp on the dyno.
Every detail matters.
Ignition(battery, coils, plugs, wires, alternator, etc...), compression, breathing(intake, filter, cat, exhaust), or fluid resistance (engine, transmission, or diff oil)
For example, the guy from KONI noted in his dyno process that they get the fluids to the right temperature. The Diff fluid being ambient normally meant a loss of 5hp on the dyno.
Every detail matters.
09-23-2009, 12:36 PM
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I know the car is rated for 232HP and 159FT-LB torque. Who on here thinks the number might be on the high side? I personally think the number is overflated slightly, I think the number is probably around 210-220HP stock.
This is not about if the car is good or not, it is simply an opinion on the car's reported figures. Think of it like Tom Cruise saying he is 5'11.
This is not about if the car is good or not, it is simply an opinion on the car's reported figures. Think of it like Tom Cruise saying he is 5'11.
And i'm fine with that
09-23-2009, 01:29 PM
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ROFL
09-23-2009, 01:37 PM
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stay tuned... 
yeah, I think TeamRX8 is still King of the Hill with something like 223 whp
yeah, I think TeamRX8 is still King of the Hill with something like 223 whp
09-23-2009, 01:40 PM
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we shall find out soon enough my young Padawan.
P.S. nice job on that 15 whp increase!
P.S. nice job on that 15 whp increase!
09-23-2009, 02:08 PM
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I think the stock rx8 makes right about 220-225 flywheel. People bash on the 8 a lot for being slow, but when you get right down to it, the 8 has a list of specs which put it on the list of elite road cars of all time.
-RWD
-over 200 bhp. (ok so not a lot of power but certainly enough to be sporting)
-LSD and IRS
-manual gearbox (no flappy paddle i never learned how to shift bullshit)
-motor, transmission, fuel tank, all within the car's wheelbase
-Sporty, rev happy, durable motor with great, crisp, sporty sound
-overall good looks from any angle
-3000 pounds or less curb weight
Now seriously, look at that list and think of all the cars throughout history which cover all of those. There really aren't that many. Everything on the list is critical, and the 8 has em all.
So what if the 8 takes more than 6 seconds to get to sixty? I guarantee you it is still faster than 99% of cars on the road in any given area of america. Not 99% of the models made currently, I just mean literally 99% of the cars actually being driven around america right now.
-RWD
-over 200 bhp. (ok so not a lot of power but certainly enough to be sporting)
-LSD and IRS
-manual gearbox (no flappy paddle i never learned how to shift bullshit)
-motor, transmission, fuel tank, all within the car's wheelbase
-Sporty, rev happy, durable motor with great, crisp, sporty sound
-overall good looks from any angle
-3000 pounds or less curb weight
Now seriously, look at that list and think of all the cars throughout history which cover all of those. There really aren't that many. Everything on the list is critical, and the 8 has em all.
So what if the 8 takes more than 6 seconds to get to sixty? I guarantee you it is still faster than 99% of cars on the road in any given area of america. Not 99% of the models made currently, I just mean literally 99% of the cars actually being driven around america right now.
09-23-2009, 02:27 PM
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Yah I just mean it's durable in terms of driving it hard at high revs, in sporting or track conditions. most motors, even if they have more power, cannot safely run at high revs all day and still be smooth as silk with no issues. The star mazda open wheel race cars use the Renesis for it's reliability/durability in demanding racing situations.