Is RX8 worth the amount we paid?
09-03-2003, 10:46 AM
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Well, I have had a RSX-S for a year and a half now and it is a great car. It's quick and agile, but also has averaged 25.8 mpg over it's lifespan, with highway only trips consistantly giving me 33.5 mpg.
This being said, I can't wait until after christmas so I can go order my new RX-8!
I am an old rotary fan and love the looks and feeling behind the wheel. I will be using probably 50% more fuel to drive it and be paying more a month to own it, but I've been waiting 4 years for this car to be on the market.
The RSX is a great bang for the buck and probably a top 10 car overall, but I am not passionate about owning it. Life is too short to simply own a car because it makes financial sense.
The last of my 2 cents: Mazda could tell me that this car has 95 HP and I would still buy it. I drove it and I know what the power feels like and I love it. If I want it faster I'll have to boost it somehow, not whine that Mazda lied to me, who cares?
Finally, of course the car is worth what you paid for it. By definition in our economy, goods and services are worth exactly what people are willing to pay for them. If you're like me, and refuse to pay MSRP for an auto, then wait until the supply gains some ground on the demand, then you'll be able to negotiate your price.
This being said, I can't wait until after christmas so I can go order my new RX-8!
I am an old rotary fan and love the looks and feeling behind the wheel. I will be using probably 50% more fuel to drive it and be paying more a month to own it, but I've been waiting 4 years for this car to be on the market.
The RSX is a great bang for the buck and probably a top 10 car overall, but I am not passionate about owning it. Life is too short to simply own a car because it makes financial sense.
The last of my 2 cents: Mazda could tell me that this car has 95 HP and I would still buy it. I drove it and I know what the power feels like and I love it. If I want it faster I'll have to boost it somehow, not whine that Mazda lied to me, who cares?
Finally, of course the car is worth what you paid for it. By definition in our economy, goods and services are worth exactly what people are willing to pay for them. If you're like me, and refuse to pay MSRP for an auto, then wait until the supply gains some ground on the demand, then you'll be able to negotiate your price.
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09-03-2003, 10:48 AM
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Re: Is RX8 worth the amount we paid?
Originally posted by afai
Thinking about it now~
RX-8 with only 238HP and auto one 197HP
and I am paying 46000CAN for it is a bit too much...
I have a Auto GT one with nav install..
it just have new and cool looking, more luxry and fancy stuff install. Performance wise it is like in the RSX type-S class.
Well, even type S has more HP then the AUTO RX-8 if i remenber correctly...
Dont be mistaken. I love the car. the way it look, but just when thinking of the performance it is sigh.... dont even want to mention it now....
Thinking about it now~
RX-8 with only 238HP and auto one 197HP
and I am paying 46000CAN for it is a bit too much...
I have a Auto GT one with nav install..
it just have new and cool looking, more luxry and fancy stuff install. Performance wise it is like in the RSX type-S class.
Well, even type S has more HP then the AUTO RX-8 if i remenber correctly...
Dont be mistaken. I love the car. the way it look, but just when thinking of the performance it is sigh.... dont even want to mention it now....
09-03-2003, 11:20 AM
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Re: Is RX8 worth the amount we paid?
Originally posted by afai
Thinking about it now~
RX-8 with only 238HP and auto one 197HP
and I am paying 46000CAN for it is a bit too much...
I have a Auto GT one with nav install..
it just have new and cool looking, more luxry and fancy stuff install. Performance wise it is like in the RSX type-S class.
Well, even type S has more HP then the AUTO RX-8 if i remenber correctly...
Dont be mistaken. I love the car. the way it look, but just when thinking of the performance it is sigh.... dont even want to mention it now....
Thinking about it now~
RX-8 with only 238HP and auto one 197HP
and I am paying 46000CAN for it is a bit too much...
I have a Auto GT one with nav install..
it just have new and cool looking, more luxry and fancy stuff install. Performance wise it is like in the RSX type-S class.
Well, even type S has more HP then the AUTO RX-8 if i remenber correctly...
Dont be mistaken. I love the car. the way it look, but just when thinking of the performance it is sigh.... dont even want to mention it now....
1 euro = 1.6 CAN
1 euro aprox 1 USD
for that price it's not possible to buy another car as performance as RX-8
09-03-2003, 07:44 PM
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Re: Re: Is RX8 worth the amount we paid?
Originally posted by ZASKAR-RX8
I think it's a very very cheap car, althougth in Spain it costs more than 37000 euros
1 euro = 1.6 CAN
1 euro aprox 1 USD
for that price it's not possible to buy another car as performance as RX-8
I think it's a very very cheap car, althougth in Spain it costs more than 37000 euros
1 euro = 1.6 CAN
1 euro aprox 1 USD
for that price it's not possible to buy another car as performance as RX-8
37000 Euro is $55,353 CAD$
You are right, hard to beat at the price.
09-03-2003, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by P00Man
what types of rattles have you experienced?
what types of rattles have you experienced?
09-04-2003, 01:17 AM
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well i live in vancouver~~ so i suspect shipping shouldn't be alot~!
well the nav is 3000 moon roof is 1000 right?
so is 4000 added to 39995. therefor price is 43995 now.. plus the rear spoiler is around 550 so is 44545 plus 1000 PDI (estimate)
comes up to 45545
i get another 1300 i dunt really know where it go~~
wait, dealer give me front nose mask... that is 300 i estimate~
so now is 1000, by the way.. is that silver thingy around AC air holes also accesories added on???
well the nav is 3000 moon roof is 1000 right?
so is 4000 added to 39995. therefor price is 43995 now.. plus the rear spoiler is around 550 so is 44545 plus 1000 PDI (estimate)
comes up to 45545
i get another 1300 i dunt really know where it go~~
wait, dealer give me front nose mask... that is 300 i estimate~
so now is 1000, by the way.. is that silver thingy around AC air holes also accesories added on???
09-12-2003, 12:27 AM
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If this car was 20g;s It would be worth it ,but to me at 30g's too expensive for what u get. If u bought this car to be cool good for u. B/c It's obvious u didn't buy it for performance or hp. If u did u should sell it back If u still can and go get something else.
I mean the car does look nice. But I don't buy a car b/c It looks nice. I buy it for performance, but hey I'm American and I have a stingray so take it or leave it. And yes u can make this car fast just like u can make any car fast just cost a lot of money. I would stay away from a 1st year model b/c they always have problems and usually they get worked out after the 1st year.
I mean the car does look nice. But I don't buy a car b/c It looks nice. I buy it for performance, but hey I'm American and I have a stingray so take it or leave it. And yes u can make this car fast just like u can make any car fast just cost a lot of money. I would stay away from a 1st year model b/c they always have problems and usually they get worked out after the 1st year.
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yo rx8-is-slow, i wonder what you say on the bmw sites with the 330Ci on generating 225 HP... man, that is weak huh??? and i guess a 0-60 in low six seconds is weak performance as rivals like the g35c with 40+ HP are barely quicker... and if your definition of performance is sports car like handling, what do you say to the mustang svts with globs of HP, but with kia like handling???
and yes, i am american too, and i ill leave it and take your opinion with a grain of salt
and yes, i am american too, and i ill leave it and take your opinion with a grain of salt
09-12-2003, 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by RX-8-is-slow
I would stay away from a 1st year model b/c they always have problems and usually they get worked out after the 1st year.
I would stay away from a 1st year model b/c they always have problems and usually they get worked out after the 1st year.
How about a 1963?
1968?
1984? wait... that WAS a bad year.
1997!
Vettes have their place... but I've never seen any vettes I've known to turn so many heads, to be constantly asked "what kinda car is that!" Muscle cars have their place, I love em. The 8 is not a muscle car... and I didn't want another. The 8 is unique... as are their RX owners. Once you fall for a Rotary... it's hard to get out of the cockpit.
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09-12-2003, 01:23 AM
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I think pure speed is only part of what makes the car great. Granted, there are PLENTY of cars that'll whoop up on a stock RX-8 on 1/4 mile dash, but so what? I can buy a Civic, VW, or Neon and soup them up with 15k worth of rice parts and be able to beat out just about any stock 2004 American muscle car. Hell, I can spend $15000 on Ducati that'll blast past any car except for the Enzo. What makes the RX-8 great is its pure uniqueness; it's engine and design. I could have bought a Cobra or Camero for the same price I paid for the RX-8 but then I'd just be driving around in dull uninspired car. The RX-8 is the type of car that has soul, unlike the visually uninspired 330i, Mustang, or Camero. It's difficult to understand if you're looking at cars from only a numbers perspective. There's probably nothing we can say that'll change your mind. If you want pure speed without style, grace, or individuality, go with the Mustang Cobra. But for those who seek to stand out from the crowd nothing beats the RX-8.
Btw, if you bothered to read some of the older threads you'll see that the a slightly modified RX-8 beat out the S2000, RSX R, and a bunch of other cars on a real track.
Btw, if you bothered to read some of the older threads you'll see that the a slightly modified RX-8 beat out the S2000, RSX R, and a bunch of other cars on a real track.
09-12-2003, 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by chopsticker
I could have bought a Cobra or Camero for the same price I paid for the RX-8 but then I'd just be driving around in dull uninspired car.
If you want pure speed without style, grace, or individuality, go with the Mustang Cobra. But for those who seek to stand out from the crowd nothing beats the RX-8.
I could have bought a Cobra or Camero for the same price I paid for the RX-8 but then I'd just be driving around in dull uninspired car.
If you want pure speed without style, grace, or individuality, go with the Mustang Cobra. But for those who seek to stand out from the crowd nothing beats the RX-8.
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09-12-2003, 01:48 AM
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hehe no offense intended. Mustang and Camero are traditional American muscle cars that have been around for decades. They're woven into Americana, but sadly neither has truely "reinvited" itself and as result no longer enjoys the respect they once had. I do like the new Mustang design though. My point was, the RX-8 truly stands out for both its design and engineering and to me that's refreshing and a reflection of the driver. The Mustang and Camero are no non-sense muscle cars for the no non-sense true-American drivers.
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hey idiot learn how to spell since u told me I can't type correctly or make sentences on another post. This is how u spell Camaro ok. Glad I could help. The funny thing is that there is a $20k neon with a turbo that will beat u rx-8 guys in every category. I'm talking about 04 srt-4 vs 04 rx-8. The only thing u guys have on it is u can get laid easier. Hopefully nobody bought this car to get laid b/c that is just sad. I'm talking about handling, top speed, slaloms, 1/4 mile. What is the top speed of the rx-8 by the way. The srt-4 top speed is 153mph.
And these are facts not opinions go read any car review magazine. It's in black and white. Or whatever coloer they use. U can make any car fast. U could go buy a pinto in the yard and put a big block in it and run 9's so what. That point is invalid to me. I'm talking about cars stock vs stock.
And these are facts not opinions go read any car review magazine. It's in black and white. Or whatever coloer they use. U can make any car fast. U could go buy a pinto in the yard and put a big block in it and run 9's so what. That point is invalid to me. I'm talking about cars stock vs stock.
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Remind all of us here again as to why you're posting on this forum. It's quite obvious you're not a fan of the RX-8 and I doubt you've even test driven one. We've done more than our share to explain to you why we think the RX-8 is a superior sports car and I don't see the need to repeat myself yet again. Your endless droning of 1/4 mile times and top speeds speaks volumes about your completely one sided argument against the 8. I suggest you come back to this board once you develop and appreciation for design and uniqueness.
And who the **** really cares about the top speed??? Are you seriously going to take the SRT-4 to 153mph??? Does anyone really trust the SRT-4 at 153 on anything but a straight track?
And who the **** really cares about the top speed??? Are you seriously going to take the SRT-4 to 153mph??? Does anyone really trust the SRT-4 at 153 on anything but a straight track?
09-12-2003, 02:44 AM
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I actually have test driven this car. I test drove 1 at Bommarito Mazda in St.Peters,Mo off of I-70. It was a silver with the 6-speed. They wouldn't let me test drive it until I gave them a 3k deposit down. Right after that I left and test drove a 350z Track edition. It was that beautiful blue color. I liked it more than the rx-8. I'm not going to argue with you about the uniqueness and design. Mazda does good for having a rotary engine. There is no other car that looks like the rx-8 so it is very unique. Last time I checked a sports car by definition is a 2 seater like my vette. I believe the rx-8 has 4 seats right. So I don't think a rx-8 is a sports car. See I'm giving u facts at least. It's not like what i'm writing isn't true right. I will just leave at this. The RX-8 is the greatest handling car ever. Which is pure bs, but I will let it go.I'm not being 1 sided there are cars out that are cheaper and can outhandle a rx-8. STI, EVO8,SRT-4. Cool hopefully u guys paid less than sticker for this car or how much was the markup. The 1 I drove was $32k. So It was marked up a little bit.
Nope I don't like the early vettes. I like the 63's thru 76. After they stopped making the stingray they got slower and uglier. I like the Z06's. I was saying stay away from 1st year cars look at all the problems this car has.
Nope I don't like the early vettes. I like the 63's thru 76. After they stopped making the stingray they got slower and uglier. I like the Z06's. I was saying stay away from 1st year cars look at all the problems this car has.
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This guy is a troll- just read his posts in the other forums. Ignore him and he'll go away. RX-8-is-slow, you've already had your warning. I suggest you don't push it. If you can't discuss things politely, then don't post anything.
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Getting back to the original question, i.e., is the RX-8 worth the price. First start with reading the thread "Little things." You'll see about 100 cool things about the car that you may or may not have already noticed. Definitely way offsets the "missing" 9 hp. Secondly, everyone (including me) always guesses this car is up in the $40s (fully loaded GT with nav.) They're shocked to learn it was $34K out the door. I remember the first review I read of the '8 back in February or so; I remember thinking "Great car, too bad it's outta my price range." Then when I saw the expected price I literally wouldn't believe it; figured it was a typo or something. So yeah, in my opinion it is definitely worth the price I paid.
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I think it's worth it , despite tha fact that
it's costing £22,300 ( red, cloth, manual)
and
I haven't driven one yet as there are none here
and
gas is £0.80 a litre
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I'm waiting until December - hiring a car
So there!
Show me a queue and I'll get in it - it's tradition in these parts
it's costing £22,300 ( red, cloth, manual)
and
I haven't driven one yet as there are none here
and
gas is £0.80 a litre
and
I'm waiting until December - hiring a car
So there!
Show me a queue and I'll get in it - it's tradition in these parts
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Whoever said that they paid a $3,000 deposit to a dealer for a test drive is either lying or needs to have their head examined.
I've been buying cars for 25 years and have never heard of such a thing, or of any dealer who would actually ask for that (including Porsche when I test drove a 911 a few years back) or any consumer that would be willing to do it.
Just one word of advice....no more drugs for you.
To answer the original question, I have yet to find any car in the high $20K-low $30K range that I like even remotely as well as the RX8, and I drove a bunch of them before I plunked down my money for a winning blue example.
The only other car that's close to that price range (still $10K more) that I would consider would be a Corvette. For the same amount of money, I would consider the S2000, but would have to give up the utility that the RX8 offers.
I don't drive time slips nor numbers (like HP). I do drive the RX8 and it's the best sporting machine I've ever driven, period.
I've been buying cars for 25 years and have never heard of such a thing, or of any dealer who would actually ask for that (including Porsche when I test drove a 911 a few years back) or any consumer that would be willing to do it.
Just one word of advice....no more drugs for you.
To answer the original question, I have yet to find any car in the high $20K-low $30K range that I like even remotely as well as the RX8, and I drove a bunch of them before I plunked down my money for a winning blue example.
The only other car that's close to that price range (still $10K more) that I would consider would be a Corvette. For the same amount of money, I would consider the S2000, but would have to give up the utility that the RX8 offers.
I don't drive time slips nor numbers (like HP). I do drive the RX8 and it's the best sporting machine I've ever driven, period.
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09-12-2003, 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by RX-8-is-slow
I actually have test driven this car. I test drove 1 at Bommarito Mazda in St.Peters,Mo off of I-70. It was a silver with the 6-speed. They wouldn't let me test drive it until I gave them a 3k deposit down. Right after that I left and test drove a 350z Track edition. It was that beautiful blue color. I liked it more than the rx-8. I'm not going to argue with you about the uniqueness and design. Mazda does good for having a rotary engine. There is no other car that looks like the rx-8 so it is very unique. Last time I checked a sports car by definition is a 2 seater like my vette. I believe the rx-8 has 4 seats right. So I don't think a rx-8 is a sports car. See I'm giving u facts at least. It's not like what i'm writing isn't true right. I will just leave at this. The RX-8 is the greatest handling car ever. Which is pure bs, but I will let it go.I'm not being 1 sided there are cars out that are cheaper and can outhandle a rx-8. STI, EVO8,SRT-4. Cool hopefully u guys paid less than sticker for this car or how much was the markup. The 1 I drove was $32k. So It was marked up a little bit.
Nope I don't like the early vettes. I like the 63's thru 76. After they stopped making the stingray they got slower and uglier. I like the Z06's. I was saying stay away from 1st year cars look at all the problems this car has.
I actually have test driven this car. I test drove 1 at Bommarito Mazda in St.Peters,Mo off of I-70. It was a silver with the 6-speed. They wouldn't let me test drive it until I gave them a 3k deposit down. Right after that I left and test drove a 350z Track edition. It was that beautiful blue color. I liked it more than the rx-8. I'm not going to argue with you about the uniqueness and design. Mazda does good for having a rotary engine. There is no other car that looks like the rx-8 so it is very unique. Last time I checked a sports car by definition is a 2 seater like my vette. I believe the rx-8 has 4 seats right. So I don't think a rx-8 is a sports car. See I'm giving u facts at least. It's not like what i'm writing isn't true right. I will just leave at this. The RX-8 is the greatest handling car ever. Which is pure bs, but I will let it go.I'm not being 1 sided there are cars out that are cheaper and can outhandle a rx-8. STI, EVO8,SRT-4. Cool hopefully u guys paid less than sticker for this car or how much was the markup. The 1 I drove was $32k. So It was marked up a little bit.
Nope I don't like the early vettes. I like the 63's thru 76. After they stopped making the stingray they got slower and uglier. I like the Z06's. I was saying stay away from 1st year cars look at all the problems this car has.
A sports car by definition is a 2 seater like your vette? So does that mean the Porsche 911 Turbo, which has 4 seats, does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, that will outhandle and outaccelerate your vette, not really a sports car?
You need to ditch the dictionary you are using and go get yourself a new one! :D
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man, i was about to post the same thing about the porsche have a 2+2... and also the supras that came 2+2, and also the previous generation 2+2 were sorry coupes cuz they had extra room... this guy needs to get a clue... and 3K for a test drive?? that is ridiculous... get real and stop trolling..
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Originally posted by Tweety-nator
A sports car by definition is a 2 seater like your vette? So does that mean the Porsche 911 Turbo, which has 4 seats, does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, that will outhandle and outaccelerate your vette, not really a sports car?
You need to ditch the dictionary you are using and go get yourself a new one! :D
A sports car by definition is a 2 seater like your vette? So does that mean the Porsche 911 Turbo, which has 4 seats, does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, that will outhandle and outaccelerate your vette, not really a sports car?
You need to ditch the dictionary you are using and go get yourself a new one! :D
Two seats is the definition of a ..... 2 SEATER, and nothing more!
By that definition a 1974 260Z would be a sports car, but a 1974 260Z 2+2 would not be a sports car?
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Originally posted by RX-8-is-slow
hey idiot learn how to spell since u told me I can't type correctly or make sentences on another post. This is how u spell Camaro ok. Glad I could help. The funny thing is that there is a $20k neon with a turbo that will beat u rx-8 guys in every category. I'm talking about 04 srt-4 vs 04 rx-8. The only thing u guys have on it is u can get laid easier. Hopefully nobody bought this car to get laid b/c that is just sad. I'm talking about handling, top speed, slaloms, 1/4 mile. What is the top speed of the rx-8 by the way. The srt-4 top speed is 153mph.
And these are facts not opinions go read any car review magazine. It's in black and white. Or whatever coloer they use. U can make any car fast. U could go buy a pinto in the yard and put a big block in it and run 9's so what. That point is invalid to me. I'm talking about cars stock vs stock.
hey idiot learn how to spell since u told me I can't type correctly or make sentences on another post. This is how u spell Camaro ok. Glad I could help. The funny thing is that there is a $20k neon with a turbo that will beat u rx-8 guys in every category. I'm talking about 04 srt-4 vs 04 rx-8. The only thing u guys have on it is u can get laid easier. Hopefully nobody bought this car to get laid b/c that is just sad. I'm talking about handling, top speed, slaloms, 1/4 mile. What is the top speed of the rx-8 by the way. The srt-4 top speed is 153mph.
And these are facts not opinions go read any car review magazine. It's in black and white. Or whatever coloer they use. U can make any car fast. U could go buy a pinto in the yard and put a big block in it and run 9's so what. That point is invalid to me. I'm talking about cars stock vs stock.
May I add that I am not degrading the Neon -Im sure its great value for the money....but....well, I guess I have a lot of distrust for Detroit cars....entry-levels at least.
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Originally posted by RX8-TX
A Neon stock sucks...with al due respect. Don't call the SRT-4, stock....please. :o
A Neon stock sucks...with al due respect. Don't call the SRT-4, stock....please. :o
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