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07-30-2003, 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by akrx8
im not sure that this s 2000 is faster than the rx8,i have printed out 2 diffrent pages form s 2000 track tests and both say 0-60 is 6.2 sec(also comments in one the rsx type s is on its heels at 6.3) rx8 comes in at 5.9 sec.there was no 1/4 mile times on the s2000 that i could find but to say that the s2000 is not in the same league as the rx8(regarding performance) is got to be from jelous honda owners.to run 1/4 mile time in 14.5 @ 96 mph (road and track test)the rx8 wont be far off this hondas *** if any.
im not sure that this s 2000 is faster than the rx8,i have printed out 2 diffrent pages form s 2000 track tests and both say 0-60 is 6.2 sec(also comments in one the rsx type s is on its heels at 6.3) rx8 comes in at 5.9 sec.there was no 1/4 mile times on the s2000 that i could find but to say that the s2000 is not in the same league as the rx8(regarding performance) is got to be from jelous honda owners.to run 1/4 mile time in 14.5 @ 96 mph (road and track test)the rx8 wont be far off this hondas *** if any.
low torque, high rev
probably a 7500/8k drop clutch with dcs partially off?
07-30-2003, 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by TerenceT
i wonder if you launch the 8 the same as a S
low torque, high rev
probably a 7500/8k drop clutch with dcs partially off?
i wonder if you launch the 8 the same as a S
low torque, high rev
probably a 7500/8k drop clutch with dcs partially off?
07-30-2003, 01:03 AM
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The 350Z is well a 350Z. I thought the inside was cheap and crappy looking. It didn't seem near as nimble and fun to drive as the other 2 and personally it didn't seem to have that much more power or torque than the others (I know it does).
The Z has gobs more power (down low) then the S2k or the 8. Comparing the performance numbers for the 8 written by Car and Driver to well established numbers of the Z and S2k seems pointless. The early dyno results for the 8 suggest that the 5.9 0-60 time, and 1/4 time is another Car and Driver fiction.
The Z is a well established 14 second runner, as is the S2000. I've got a feeling we will be seing the 8 run 15s once people start to get out to the track.
With all of that said... I still havent bought a car yet. The Z is out for me... because its interior is kia quality. I'm down a slightly used S2k or a new 8. As of now I'm leaning towards the 8.
08-07-2003, 10:34 PM
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I ve had an S2k now for 2 1/2 years and I luv that car but feel like a change. The only problem that i have had, is that I owned a Series 6 RX7 previous to it!!!
Nothing quite like a 13B with twin turbos!!! Always wishing that my S2k was faster now. S2k is a Lot more reliable though...
Now the Rx8's have just been released down under, and I LUV the look of them!! That is one sexy car (but so is the CONVERTIBLE S2k)! and it is a ROTOR!
I just wish the RX8 was faster. every independant road test in Aust magazines have tested them as slower than the S.I think the best 0-100k time they could get was 6.4 secs. S2k has been tested as 6.2. I dont want to go backwards again.
What will help me decide is what comes out Aftermarket for these babies! Reckon u can get the Rx8 much faster with bolt ons(no turbo)??
By the way both cars are hot so stop the B.S!!! luv the Z as well. Its an exciting time for car buyers ..more choice, more value
Nothing quite like a 13B with twin turbos!!! Always wishing that my S2k was faster now. S2k is a Lot more reliable though...
Now the Rx8's have just been released down under, and I LUV the look of them!! That is one sexy car (but so is the CONVERTIBLE S2k)! and it is a ROTOR!
I just wish the RX8 was faster. every independant road test in Aust magazines have tested them as slower than the S.I think the best 0-100k time they could get was 6.4 secs. S2k has been tested as 6.2. I dont want to go backwards again.
What will help me decide is what comes out Aftermarket for these babies! Reckon u can get the Rx8 much faster with bolt ons(no turbo)??
By the way both cars are hot so stop the B.S!!! luv the Z as well. Its an exciting time for car buyers ..more choice, more value
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Having driven them both, I prefer the S2000. The RX8 is gorgeous, and convenient, but the rotory is way, way overrated. It's just too civilized, smooth and characterless. The RX8 is really more comparable to the Acura TSX: small, mostly unobtrusive engines; no torque; four seats; quality interiors; nice features. Not really that involving or visceral a driving experience. Still, the RX8 takes it easily based on looks.
The S2000, on the other hand, is sensory overload: rough, raw, loud and mean. A bit like Pamela Anderson vs. the pretty RX8's Sarah Michelle Gellar.
The S2000, on the other hand, is sensory overload: rough, raw, loud and mean. A bit like Pamela Anderson vs. the pretty RX8's Sarah Michelle Gellar.
08-08-2003, 12:09 AM
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The day I got my RX-8 was the day I got rid of my 626 sedan (insert big sigh of relief) and my Miata (insert a big sigh of sadness).
A outstanding as the RX-8 is, it can't give you the pure top-down driving pleasure of the slower, less nimble, more uncomfortable Miata. There is just something about a roadster that you will never get from a coupe.
The RX-8 has not disappointed me in the least and I look forward to many fun-filled miles enjoying its comfort, power and agility. It is awesome! I personally do not regret the switch from the Miata to the RX-8 for an instant, but that is a decision that I made just for myself.
However, the changes of the past month did teach me that if your soul calls out for a roadster, be it Miata, S2000, Boxster or whatever, then you better get your RX-8 deposit back ASAP and find another path to follow your heart.
A outstanding as the RX-8 is, it can't give you the pure top-down driving pleasure of the slower, less nimble, more uncomfortable Miata. There is just something about a roadster that you will never get from a coupe.
The RX-8 has not disappointed me in the least and I look forward to many fun-filled miles enjoying its comfort, power and agility. It is awesome! I personally do not regret the switch from the Miata to the RX-8 for an instant, but that is a decision that I made just for myself.
However, the changes of the past month did teach me that if your soul calls out for a roadster, be it Miata, S2000, Boxster or whatever, then you better get your RX-8 deposit back ASAP and find another path to follow your heart.
08-08-2003, 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by ChrisW
I know this is subjective but does anyone actually like the sound of an S2000 above 6000 rpm?
I know this is subjective but does anyone actually like the sound of an S2000 above 6000 rpm?
08-08-2003, 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by f1 tech
Haven't you read the latest issue of Car and Driver and Road and Track? The S2000 got first in both reviews and smoked the 350Z in the Road and Track comparison.
Haven't you read the latest issue of Car and Driver and Road and Track? The S2000 got first in both reviews and smoked the 350Z in the Road and Track comparison.
I have driven both cars, and although the S2000 wins in the sterile columns of a R & T article, the overall rotary experience is just plain better IMHO. I have owned a 93 RX7, so I can appreciate the attributes of the S2000 that make it popular, but the RX8 is a FINE automobile (especially for an old guy like me that wants an everyday driver with a kick) even if it's not a twin turbo FD, or one step down....an S2000.
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Originally posted by TJRX8
Obvious for me...I drove all three and bought the RX8. For many of the same reasons as stated above. It is an all around better car "FOR ME".
I was almost crippled after a short but exhilerating ride in the S2k, scratched it off the list. It isn't near as nice inside and is beginning to look dated, although I still do like it's look just not near as much as the 8.
The 350Z is well a 350Z. I thought the inside was cheap and crappy looking. It didn't seem near as nimble and fun to drive as the other 2 and personally it didn't seem to have that much more power or torque than the others (I know it does).
The 8 is close enough in all categories that it may lose in (for some testers) and the other 2 are far away in the categories that the 8 wins in. Make sense?
The RX8 for me Thank you very much!
Obvious for me...I drove all three and bought the RX8. For many of the same reasons as stated above. It is an all around better car "FOR ME".
I was almost crippled after a short but exhilerating ride in the S2k, scratched it off the list. It isn't near as nice inside and is beginning to look dated, although I still do like it's look just not near as much as the 8.
The 350Z is well a 350Z. I thought the inside was cheap and crappy looking. It didn't seem near as nimble and fun to drive as the other 2 and personally it didn't seem to have that much more power or torque than the others (I know it does).
The 8 is close enough in all categories that it may lose in (for some testers) and the other 2 are far away in the categories that the 8 wins in. Make sense?
The RX8 for me Thank you very much!
Well said TJRX8
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I owned a first year S2000 for a little less than a year and I now own this first year RX8. Clearly the S2000 is better in virtually every performance category. It has a race car engine, race car suspension, race car steering and race car brakes. Once the VTEC kicked in at around 7,000 rpm it got its 2nd wind and you were off to the races. An hour of screaming through the twisties and you came home with your heart pounding.....wanting more.
I expected this same power surge above 7,000 rpm with the RX8 and its just not there. Very smooth delivery of power but nothing that pulls your head into the seat. Cornering is good but not as good, brakes are good but not as good. Steering is very comparable......the RX8 really steers beautifully.
Yes, the S2000 is a loud drive and long highway jaunts are difficult. But that's not what buyers of convertible, two-seat sports cars consider anyway. I sold mine inside a year because I have a daughter and she has friends and there was no way to transport them. I knew this going in but it was something I just needed to own, even if just for a little while.
The build quality of the Honda is superior to the Mazda. I took my RX7 in to the shop 20 times for irritating rattles and it looks like I'll be doing the same with the 8. They're popping up everywhere. The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The biggest reason to take the Honda over the Mazda, if you don't need 4 seats, is the number imported into the States. Honda imports no more than 5,000 into the U.S. annually and will stop completely after its 5th year of production (the 2004 model). I drove mine for 10 months and sold it for more than I paid. Mazda will import at least 30,000 per year. I've already seen more RX8's in town than S2000s and Honda had a 4 year head start. We'll be lucky to have a market value of 60% of what we paid after we've owned for a year.
So, if you need 4 true adult seats, this is the sportiest, most fun car on the planet. If you don't need the 4 seats and you don't have $80,000 to spend on a car, take the S2000. It's a truly marvelous convertible sports car.....something ALL males should own at least once in their lifetimes.
I expected this same power surge above 7,000 rpm with the RX8 and its just not there. Very smooth delivery of power but nothing that pulls your head into the seat. Cornering is good but not as good, brakes are good but not as good. Steering is very comparable......the RX8 really steers beautifully.
Yes, the S2000 is a loud drive and long highway jaunts are difficult. But that's not what buyers of convertible, two-seat sports cars consider anyway. I sold mine inside a year because I have a daughter and she has friends and there was no way to transport them. I knew this going in but it was something I just needed to own, even if just for a little while.
The build quality of the Honda is superior to the Mazda. I took my RX7 in to the shop 20 times for irritating rattles and it looks like I'll be doing the same with the 8. They're popping up everywhere. The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The biggest reason to take the Honda over the Mazda, if you don't need 4 seats, is the number imported into the States. Honda imports no more than 5,000 into the U.S. annually and will stop completely after its 5th year of production (the 2004 model). I drove mine for 10 months and sold it for more than I paid. Mazda will import at least 30,000 per year. I've already seen more RX8's in town than S2000s and Honda had a 4 year head start. We'll be lucky to have a market value of 60% of what we paid after we've owned for a year.
So, if you need 4 true adult seats, this is the sportiest, most fun car on the planet. If you don't need the 4 seats and you don't have $80,000 to spend on a car, take the S2000. It's a truly marvelous convertible sports car.....something ALL males should own at least once in their lifetimes.
08-08-2003, 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by TomsterRX8
The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
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Well boys and girls, i agree that both the 8 and the s2000 are sweet, fellow rx-8 owners would be happy to know I pulled on one a couple days ago on the highway.
We both punched it around 90kph and at about 200 I had a good 3-4 cars on him. Both cars were stock and matched for passengers, and it still happened twice- I was kinda surprised actually
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Anyone gone off the line with an S2000 yet? (or off the line period with their 8?)
We both punched it around 90kph and at about 200 I had a good 3-4 cars on him. Both cars were stock and matched for passengers, and it still happened twice- I was kinda surprised actually
. Anyone gone off the line with an S2000 yet? (or off the line period with their 8?)
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Originally posted by msrecant
The day I got my RX-8 was the day I got rid of my 626 sedan (insert big sigh of relief) and my Miata (insert a big sigh of sadness).
A outstanding as the RX-8 is, it can't give you the pure top-down driving pleasure of the slower, less nimble, more uncomfortable Miata. There is just something about a roadster that you will never get from a coupe.
The RX-8 has not disappointed me in the least and I look forward to many fun-filled miles enjoying its comfort, power and agility. It is awesome! I personally do not regret the switch from the Miata to the RX-8 for an instant, but that is a decision that I made just for myself.
However, the changes of the past month did teach me that if your soul calls out for a roadster, be it Miata, S2000, Boxster or whatever, then you better get your RX-8 deposit back ASAP and find another path to follow your heart.
The day I got my RX-8 was the day I got rid of my 626 sedan (insert big sigh of relief) and my Miata (insert a big sigh of sadness).
A outstanding as the RX-8 is, it can't give you the pure top-down driving pleasure of the slower, less nimble, more uncomfortable Miata. There is just something about a roadster that you will never get from a coupe.
The RX-8 has not disappointed me in the least and I look forward to many fun-filled miles enjoying its comfort, power and agility. It is awesome! I personally do not regret the switch from the Miata to the RX-8 for an instant, but that is a decision that I made just for myself.
However, the changes of the past month did teach me that if your soul calls out for a roadster, be it Miata, S2000, Boxster or whatever, then you better get your RX-8 deposit back ASAP and find another path to follow your heart.
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"Since you owned an S2000, I'm surprised by that comment given the way the central tunnel on the S2000 heats up, making it a somewhat unwelcome leg warmer for your right leg. Let's not forget that even the staunchest fans of the S2000 call the cup holder the "beverage warmer" since any cold beverage you place in it will be warmed nicely by the tunnel after a run..."
Hmmm.......I honestly can't remember any interior heat issues with the S2000. It may be that I sold before the real summer heat hit. It was 108 degrees here in Austin yesterday and very uncomfortable in the RX8. Air blows cold but the driver's seat was way too toasty.
Hmmm.......I honestly can't remember any interior heat issues with the S2000. It may be that I sold before the real summer heat hit. It was 108 degrees here in Austin yesterday and very uncomfortable in the RX8. Air blows cold but the driver's seat was way too toasty.
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Originally posted by TomsterRX8
It was 108 degrees here in Austin yesterday and very uncomfortable in the RX8. Air blows cold but the driver's seat was way too toasty.
It was 108 degrees here in Austin yesterday and very uncomfortable in the RX8. Air blows cold but the driver's seat was way too toasty.
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Originally posted by TomsterRX8
I owned a first year S2000 for a little less than a year and I now own this first year RX8. Clearly the S2000 is better in virtually every performance category. It has a race car engine, race car suspension, race car steering and race car brakes. Once the VTEC kicked in at around 7,000 rpm it got its 2nd wind and you were off to the races. An hour of screaming through the twisties and you came home with your heart pounding.....wanting more.
I expected this same power surge above 7,000 rpm with the RX8 and its just not there. Very smooth delivery of power but nothing that pulls your head into the seat. Cornering is good but not as good, brakes are good but not as good. Steering is very comparable......the RX8 really steers beautifully.
Yes, the S2000 is a loud drive and long highway jaunts are difficult. But that's not what buyers of convertible, two-seat sports cars consider anyway. I sold mine inside a year because I have a daughter and she has friends and there was no way to transport them. I knew this going in but it was something I just needed to own, even if just for a little while.
The build quality of the Honda is superior to the Mazda. I took my RX7 in to the shop 20 times for irritating rattles and it looks like I'll be doing the same with the 8. They're popping up everywhere. The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The biggest reason to take the Honda over the Mazda, if you don't need 4 seats, is the number imported into the States. Honda imports no more than 5,000 into the U.S. annually and will stop completely after its 5th year of production (the 2004 model). I drove mine for 10 months and sold it for more than I paid. Mazda will import at least 30,000 per year. I've already seen more RX8's in town than S2000s and Honda had a 4 year head start. We'll be lucky to have a market value of 60% of what we paid after we've owned for a year.
So, if you need 4 true adult seats, this is the sportiest, most fun car on the planet. If you don't need the 4 seats and you don't have $80,000 to spend on a car, take the S2000. It's a truly marvelous convertible sports car.....something ALL males should own at least once in their lifetimes.
I owned a first year S2000 for a little less than a year and I now own this first year RX8. Clearly the S2000 is better in virtually every performance category. It has a race car engine, race car suspension, race car steering and race car brakes. Once the VTEC kicked in at around 7,000 rpm it got its 2nd wind and you were off to the races. An hour of screaming through the twisties and you came home with your heart pounding.....wanting more.
I expected this same power surge above 7,000 rpm with the RX8 and its just not there. Very smooth delivery of power but nothing that pulls your head into the seat. Cornering is good but not as good, brakes are good but not as good. Steering is very comparable......the RX8 really steers beautifully.
Yes, the S2000 is a loud drive and long highway jaunts are difficult. But that's not what buyers of convertible, two-seat sports cars consider anyway. I sold mine inside a year because I have a daughter and she has friends and there was no way to transport them. I knew this going in but it was something I just needed to own, even if just for a little while.
The build quality of the Honda is superior to the Mazda. I took my RX7 in to the shop 20 times for irritating rattles and it looks like I'll be doing the same with the 8. They're popping up everywhere. The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The biggest reason to take the Honda over the Mazda, if you don't need 4 seats, is the number imported into the States. Honda imports no more than 5,000 into the U.S. annually and will stop completely after its 5th year of production (the 2004 model). I drove mine for 10 months and sold it for more than I paid. Mazda will import at least 30,000 per year. I've already seen more RX8's in town than S2000s and Honda had a 4 year head start. We'll be lucky to have a market value of 60% of what we paid after we've owned for a year.
So, if you need 4 true adult seats, this is the sportiest, most fun car on the planet. If you don't need the 4 seats and you don't have $80,000 to spend on a car, take the S2000. It's a truly marvelous convertible sports car.....something ALL males should own at least once in their lifetimes.
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Originally posted by TomsterRX8
I owned a first year S2000 for a little less than a year and I now own this first year RX8. Clearly the S2000 is better in virtually every performance category. It has a race car engine, race car suspension, race car steering and race car brakes. Once the VTEC kicked in at around 7,000 rpm it got its 2nd wind and you were off to the races. An hour of screaming through the twisties and you came home with your heart pounding.....wanting more.
I expected this same power surge above 7,000 rpm with the RX8 and its just not there. Very smooth delivery of power but nothing that pulls your head into the seat. Cornering is good but not as good, brakes are good but not as good. Steering is very comparable......the RX8 really steers beautifully.
Yes, the S2000 is a loud drive and long highway jaunts are difficult. But that's not what buyers of convertible, two-seat sports cars consider anyway. I sold mine inside a year because I have a daughter and she has friends and there was no way to transport them. I knew this going in but it was something I just needed to own, even if just for a little while.
The build quality of the Honda is superior to the Mazda. I took my RX7 in to the shop 20 times for irritating rattles and it looks like I'll be doing the same with the 8. They're popping up everywhere. The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The biggest reason to take the Honda over the Mazda, if you don't need 4 seats, is the number imported into the States. Honda imports no more than 5,000 into the U.S. annually and will stop completely after its 5th year of production (the 2004 model). I drove mine for 10 months and sold it for more than I paid. Mazda will import at least 30,000 per year. I've already seen more RX8's in town than S2000s and Honda had a 4 year head start. We'll be lucky to have a market value of 60% of what we paid after we've owned for a year.
So, if you need 4 true adult seats, this is the sportiest, most fun car on the planet. If you don't need the 4 seats and you don't have $80,000 to spend on a car, take the S2000. It's a truly marvelous convertible sports car.....something ALL males should own at least once in their lifetimes.
I owned a first year S2000 for a little less than a year and I now own this first year RX8. Clearly the S2000 is better in virtually every performance category. It has a race car engine, race car suspension, race car steering and race car brakes. Once the VTEC kicked in at around 7,000 rpm it got its 2nd wind and you were off to the races. An hour of screaming through the twisties and you came home with your heart pounding.....wanting more.
I expected this same power surge above 7,000 rpm with the RX8 and its just not there. Very smooth delivery of power but nothing that pulls your head into the seat. Cornering is good but not as good, brakes are good but not as good. Steering is very comparable......the RX8 really steers beautifully.
Yes, the S2000 is a loud drive and long highway jaunts are difficult. But that's not what buyers of convertible, two-seat sports cars consider anyway. I sold mine inside a year because I have a daughter and she has friends and there was no way to transport them. I knew this going in but it was something I just needed to own, even if just for a little while.
The build quality of the Honda is superior to the Mazda. I took my RX7 in to the shop 20 times for irritating rattles and it looks like I'll be doing the same with the 8. They're popping up everywhere. The engine heat on the driver's seat and in the cup holder bays is inexcusable and makes any drive of any length in the summer uncomfortable.
The biggest reason to take the Honda over the Mazda, if you don't need 4 seats, is the number imported into the States. Honda imports no more than 5,000 into the U.S. annually and will stop completely after its 5th year of production (the 2004 model). I drove mine for 10 months and sold it for more than I paid. Mazda will import at least 30,000 per year. I've already seen more RX8's in town than S2000s and Honda had a 4 year head start. We'll be lucky to have a market value of 60% of what we paid after we've owned for a year.
So, if you need 4 true adult seats, this is the sportiest, most fun car on the planet. If you don't need the 4 seats and you don't have $80,000 to spend on a car, take the S2000. It's a truly marvelous convertible sports car.....something ALL males should own at least once in their lifetimes.
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Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
. In reguards to your torque comments... either 1) You never actually have tested any of the cars or 2) You don't know what torque is.
. In reguards to your torque comments... either 1) You never actually have tested any of the cars or 2) You don't know what torque is.
Peace :-)
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Well I got bad news for you DUDE I have driven both of them many times as well as most other cars of this type. Yes I do know what Torque is and have owned 3 Camaros a Mustang a BMW and 22 other cars. Some with gobs of torque and some with hardly any. If you read hat I said (doesn't SEEM like...I know it does) I stand by that statement. It didn't seem to have near the torque of my '95 or '97 Z28. I'm not quoting numbers or torque curves or Dyno tests just how it feels to my butt in the seat. And in case you didn't notice I bought the RX-8 ( I could have bought any of these cars as well as many others) and have almost 1500 miles on it. I'd say I talk from more experience than you.
Here is the direct quote from your post:
The 350Z is well a 350Z. I thought the inside was cheap and crappy looking. It didn't seem near as nimble and fun to drive as the other 2 and personally it didn't seem to have that much more power or torque than the others (I know it does).
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Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
Right.
Here is the direct quote from your post:
Where exactly did the '95 and '97 Z28 come in? Look, you might very well be an experienced driver... but your butt clearly has loss some feeling if you didnt feel the extra torque in the Z relative to the 8. Maybe you shouldnt be driving anymore. Are you really old? Or just stupid?
Right.
Here is the direct quote from your post:
Where exactly did the '95 and '97 Z28 come in? Look, you might very well be an experienced driver... but your butt clearly has loss some feeling if you didnt feel the extra torque in the Z relative to the 8. Maybe you shouldnt be driving anymore. Are you really old? Or just stupid?
Here is what Tom said.
it (350Z) didn't SEEM to have that much more power or torque than the others (I know it does).
Second statement: Tom said,
It didn't seem to have near the torque of my '95 or '97 Z28.
If you can not accept personal opinions and/or view about your beloved 350Z, then you need to leave this board, or learn to accept these opinions and views like a grown-up.
All of Tom's statements was how the 350Z's power was perceived by him. He SEEMS qualified enough to voice his opinion since he has owned high torque autos before and has recently driven the 350Z.
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08-09-2003, 08:49 AM
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ToRX-8orToZ seems to be a troll. From the other posts on this forum I suspect he is a pimply-face kid in his underwear using mom's PC. Not that there is anything wrong with that but he really does not seem to fit the character of this forum. To answer his question "ToRX-8orToZ", my vote would be "to Z", bail on this forum and go elsewhere.
08-09-2003, 04:11 PM
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If you can not accept personal opinions and/or view about your beloved 350Z, then you need to leave this board, or learn to accept these opinions and views like a grown-up.
All of Tom's statements was how the 350Z's power was perceived by him. He SEEMS qualified enough to voice his opinion since he has owned high torque autos before and has recently driven the 350Z.
Duh! That's where the '95 & '97 Z28 comes in. He clearly stated that he owned those Camaro's, and the 350Z did not SEEM to have as much torque.
On a last note, I get flamed on these boards a lot for speaking my mind. Guess what? I don't care. I'll continue to say what I want to. You can always skip my posts if you don't want to read them.
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Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
... but your butt clearly has loss some feeling if you didnt feel the extra torque in the Z relative to the 8. Maybe you shouldnt be driving anymore. Are you really old? Or just stupid?
... but your butt clearly has loss some feeling if you didnt feel the extra torque in the Z relative to the 8. Maybe you shouldnt be driving anymore. Are you really old? Or just stupid?
1) I have loss some feeling in my butt since breaking my neck in a motorcycle accident 7years ago. Good catch!
2) Once again the 350Z didn't seem to have much more torque than the RX-8 and not near the torque of other cars I have owned. Now is that clear enough for you?
3) Compared to you I probably am really old. Considering your ignorance I am probably much older than you will ever see.
4) I'm sure to you I am stupid, I take that as a compliment!
Please buy a 350Z if you can even afford one.
PS: thanks Mark!