Quick_lude

My Prelude
L 178"
W 69"
H 52"
Although right now I'm about 2" lower.

knightrider

Dude, what the hell are you thinking to compare a rsx type-s to a rx-8?

It doesn't accelerate as fast. It doesn't turn as good. It has crap factory brakes. High of the ground.(so it might roll over when turned too fast) Crappy *** interior.(Everything seems like it's made of plastic) The difference in hp is not even a topic to tak about. Not to mention that it's an economy car. Probably crumbles up on a front collision.

Line them up and see how the rsx is going to get smoked. God damnit, at least compare it with a rsx type-r. F**king H Christ~~~

Quick_lude

I have a feeling that the RX-8 due to the lightness will have very similar crash tendencies. As most Japanese "smaller" vehicles.

Grimace

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

It may not accelerate as fast, but its still fast. The handling is very good for a FWD car. I haven't heard of any issues with the brakes. The quality of the interior is one of the best parts about the car, very good materials. It feels more expensive than it is.
High off the ground (????) so it might roll over? You need a lesson in vehicle dynamics. The RSX (and any other non-SUV or truck I can think of) will slide on its tires long before it rolls over. It won't roll over unless it hits an uneven bit of pavement.
I don't even know where you are coming from with that "crumbles up on a front collision" garbage. RSX's are one of the safest small FWD cars in a collision.
No one here is saying the RX-8 won't outperform the RSX Type-S. But it will be significantly more expensive than one. Whether the difference in money is worth it is up to the individual.
And there is no RSX Type-R on this continent, so that would be difficult and pointless to compare the two, wouldn't it?

Sputnik

Actually, due to the smaller size and location of the rotary in the RX8, it should do much better than other cars in front-on situations. The "tunnel spine" should help with that also.

It won't come out of it w/o a scratch, they aren't meant to. But you should be able to come out of it better.

---jps

boowana

From what I've been told, it (RX-8) has already gone through side impact tests, etc., and fared very well, in psite of the suicide doors.:o

Immi

Nice Grimace.. way to shut knightrider up.

wakeech

yes, knightrider, i've seen a few other posts of yours, and just a peice of friendly advice:
take everything here with a grain of salt (or two...)

everyone here is a car guy/gal, and we try to just get along and chat in a friendly environment... disagreement and debate is why we're here, let's just not get upset about it, k?? hope to see a lot more contribution from ya.

-Andrew

knightrider

You're the one who's high on smoke, Grimace. You can go around other places, and they can tell you off hand that the factory brake on the RSX is crap.

And which pot are you smoking, talking about the type-r not being out. At least it's out in freaking japan and europe, comparing to the rx-8 which is not even in production yet. We just suck getting good cars.

But in another hand, I know exactly how you feel and why you reacted to my post. You are you like someone I know. A Acura freak!! At least he's can admit that it's crap when it comes to crashes. You're trying to tell me that a body that's somewhat based off of the economy civic doesn't crumble up. Sure, it may have all these life saving design. But it's still gonna crumble up like ****. I didn't say you'll die from it.

wakeech

honestly, i strongly suggest you heed my advice, bud.

i11matic

i dont think that the rsx's performance will be all that close to the rx8... its still a 4banger if im correct unless it goes along the same lines as things like civic type-r that are 6? anyways, the rsx was designed as a replacement for the integra, which in itself was just a little more upper-class than the civic if you could even call it that... the rsx really fits into the same category as the civic and its not really in the rx8's category if you ask me... its still just an economy import that pays a little more attention to performance than the civic etc, but its not near as much a performance car as the rx8. i really dont see how the rsx can compete with 50\50 weight distribution and with how solid and stiff the rx8 is when you talk about handling... plus its FWD so it understeers to begin with.

i11matic

hmm lets see... knowledgable grimace or idiot knight? not a hard choice...

fyi knight rider, grimace said the rsx type-r isnt even on this continent so why compare them and you flame on him?

last time i checked japan wasnt part of the continental US

Immi

-you write as if you've driven the RX8

My theory - which I think is highly applicable to mostly everyone on this forum: You either hate Honda or you love it.

What was that about the RSX?

i11matic

you're the one who said the rsx could hold up to the rx8, so im not writing any differently than you or anyone else will. im going from what ive read in magazines, seen on the net, and common sense. people have given multiple reasons why FWD cars don't handle as well. rx8 is rwd, plus it has the 50\50 weight distribution. im not saying anything that hasnt been said before, merely repeating what people who HAVE driven the rx8 have said.

Grimace

1. I never said the Type-R wasn't out. I said it wasn't avaible on this continent. That puts a serious damper on the Type-R making onto my new car purchase short-list (see #2).

2. I'm not moving to another country to buy a car.

3. Have you seen any data on RSX/Civic crash tests? Just because a car is inexpensive doesn't mean it will "crumble up" (whatever that means). If you are referring to the front end crumple zone, then I've got news for you. Every modern car has a crumple zone. Otherwise the entire force of the impact would be transmitted to the driver, and you'd likely find out what it was like to fly out the windshield of your car, or having your ribs crushed by the seatbelt as you do a multiple-G decelleration, likely causing death. But at least your bumper wouldn't be dented. Ever see aftermaths of crashes from cars of several decades ago? Cars look like a million bucks. Owners are as dead as doornails.

4. I'm not an Acura freak. Acura makes good cars, reliable, well built. But not very exciting (save for the NSX). I'm not a fan of front-wheel drive, which is why I won't buy an Acura. If defending the RSX against your (and I'm using this word loosely) opinions makes me a "Acura freak" then so be it. I'd rather be a freak than a brand-basher.

'Nuff said.

Quick_lude

Actually understeer has nothing to do with weight distribution. It's all about suspension design. My Prelude after a stiffer rear antiswaybar does not understeer any more, it's very close to oversteer sometimes.
A rwd car with 50/50 weight distribution can be made to understeer easily. Most manufacturers do that for the safety of the general public. Push the car too hard, what is the "usual" response of Joe Public? Lift off the gas. Understeer problem solved.

Quick_lude

Btw, the RX-8 will cost about $10K Cnd more than the RSX-typeS so I hope it is a better car.

i11matic

yes i know the weight distribution has nothing to do with the handling... im sorry if it came out that way :/ i was using that as a point in addition to the one about it being rwd, just saying how balanced the car is and whatnot, i didnt mean it as what you thought... my bads