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Old 09-10-2005, 06:47 PM
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Do you live in the US? If so, I'm very curious as to how you intend to make the Spirit R US street legal? It's not difficult to import a car like that from Japan, but the trick is making it US legal (crash testing, emissions etc.) so you can register it and drive it on the street. That takes huge bucks. I think there is a company that has done it for the R34 Skyline GT-R, but haven't heard of place that handles JDM FDs.
Oh, well the company for the R34 is Motorex and they only do skylines. I live in the US. People at the local Mazda dealership are car enthusiats and are actually helping me out. Also, if that doesnt really work, i have a few family members in the army that would gladly help me out and some of them are in Tokyo. The best way to import and get a street legal FD is to get someone in the military to import it for you. Well, those are my two options at the moment.
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Please do not start this again with the rx-7 board. There is no reason to cause issues AGAIN. This has been brought up countless times on here (almost as much as the MPG threads) and REALLY doesn't need to start up again.
Old 09-10-2005, 10:32 PM
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We have a local meet every month for rotorheads. One of the local guys from the 7 board started it on the 7 board and posted on our board. The only competition is to see who has a better turnout. Otherwise its just a bunch of rotoraholics getting together. Good info flows back and forth about all generations of the rotary.
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Originally Posted by Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2
Oh, well the company for the R34 is Motorex and they only do skylines. I live in the US. People at the local Mazda dealership are car enthusiats and are actually helping me out. Also, if that doesnt really work, i have a few family members in the army that would gladly help me out and some of them are in Tokyo. The best way to import and get a street legal FD is to get someone in the military to import it for you. Well, those are my two options at the moment.
Like I said, getting it imported isn't all that difficult. There are places in Japan that will gladly sell and ship you a JDM FD. But they won't modify it so it's US street legal. So even if your Mazda dealer gets you a car or you get it from a relative in the military stationed in Japan, the car still needs to be converted to a US street legal form. How do you plan to do that? I don't mean to sound like a skeptic, just very curious.

If there was an easy cost efficient way, many folks (including myself), might opt for a late model '99-'02 JDM FD RX-7. But to my knowledge, it's very difficult and quite costly. That's why almost everyone is riding around in their old 13 year old FDs and the majority of them have now been beaten to death with mods, engine rebuilds, and god knows what else.

I'd love to get my hands on a prestine '02 Spirit R or Type RZ or even a Bathurst Type R. But the simplest way I know of is to move to Japan.

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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Like I said, getting it imported isn't all that difficult. There are places in Japan that will gladly sell and ship you a JDM FD. But they won't modify it so it's US street legal. So even if your Mazda dealer gets you a car or you get it from a relative in the military stationed in Japan, the car still needs to be converted to a US street legal form. How do you plan to do that? I don't mean to sound like a skeptic, just very curious.

If there was an easy cost efficient way, many folks (including myself), might opt for a late model '99-'02 JDM FD RX-7. But to my knowledge, it's very difficult and quite costly. That's why almost everyone is riding around in their old 13 year old FDs and the majority of them have now been beaten to death with mods, engine rebuilds, and god knows what else.

I'd love to get my hands on a prestine '02 Spirit R or Type RZ or even a Bathurst Type R. But the simplest way I know of is to move to Japan.
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Originally Posted by Elara
Please do not start this again with the rx-7 board. There is no reason to cause issues AGAIN. This has been brought up countless times on here (almost as much as the MPG threads) and REALLY doesn't need to start up again.
Sorry Elara for bringing this up again. I just wanted to state my opinion on that we shouldnt be having conflicts with our family and all. I want to apologize once again Elara.

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Old 09-11-2005, 02:43 AM
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I'm currently an FC owner. I commute everyday and whenever I see an RX7, I would chase it down just to say wassup. One day, I saw a nice RX8 after I exited the freeway. He was getting gas. I stopped by and we had a small chit chat. He told me that he bought the car for primary its looks (OF ALL THINGS )

The way he was talking to me, you can tell that he was a first time rotary owner. He took one look at my car and had a look on his face like he didn't know what car I had. I told him I worked on FCs and FD on side and his face went blank for a second. Like he didn't know what FCs and FDs stand for. My point is, not all rx8 are rotary people. I stopped chasing down RX8's because when I come up next to one, they give me a cold shoulder. SO I GAVE UP! From now on, I'll wait for an RX8 to come chase me down.
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Like I said, getting it imported isn't all that difficult. There are places in Japan that will gladly sell and ship you a JDM FD. But they won't modify it so it's US street legal. So even if your Mazda dealer gets you a car or you get it from a relative in the military stationed in Japan, the car still needs to be converted to a US street legal form. How do you plan to do that? I don't mean to sound like a skeptic, just very curious.

If there was an easy cost efficient way, many folks (including myself), might opt for a late model '99-'02 JDM FD RX-7. But to my knowledge, it's very difficult and quite costly. That's why almost everyone is riding around in their old 13 year old FDs and the majority of them have now been beaten to death with mods, engine rebuilds, and god knows what else.

I'd love to get my hands on a prestine '02 Spirit R or Type RZ or even a Bathurst Type R. But the simplest way I know of is to move to Japan.
I know how you feel hachi and to your question, well, it is difficult and modifications are pricey. I've done research ever since yesterday talking to a few government angeny's and my dreams have been shattered due to the only RHD vehicle allowed on US soil is the 1990 to 1999 skyline. Well, after all this, i have made a life altering decision to move to japan. I guess i'll be waiting a few more years to get my spirit r but hey, it'll be worth it to live in import paradise. Well, i'll still try to get a spirit r on american soil and see how much it cost. I'll keep you updated though hachi if i get a breakthrough.
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Originally Posted by GTR
I'm currently an FC owner. I commute everyday and whenever I see an RX7, I would chase it down just to say wassup. One day, I saw a nice RX8 after I exited the freeway. He was getting gas. I stopped by and we had a small chit chat. He told me that he bought the car for primary its looks (OF ALL THINGS )

The way he was talking to me, you can tell that he was a first time rotary owner. He took one look at my car and had a look on his face like he didn't know what car I had. I told him I worked on FCs and FD on side and his face went blank for a second. Like he didn't know what FCs and FDs stand for. My point is, not all rx8 are rotary people. I stopped chasing down RX8's because when I come up next to one, they give me a cold shoulder. SO I GAVE UP! From now on, I'll wait for an RX8 to come chase me down.
Where do you live at? I'll come chase you down. I'm in the mood for a rotary meet in the bay area somewhere. Well, i'm a fanatic rotary lover. Though the rx8 is my actual first rotary car, i know the history. If any bay area rotary folks want a meet, send me a message!
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Well I just read the thread "RX-8 to RX-7"on the RX-7 Forum. I think those of you who think RX-7 owners are elitist or look down on the RX-8 have mis-interpreted. Read it! Most 7 owners were envious of the 8 owner!

Just because we say (and know) the 3rd gen is faster and more powerful, doesn't mean we don't like the 8. The 8 is a great car, handles at least as well as a 3rd gen, has a much nicer transmission, has room for passengers, and is a modern fully integrated electronic car!
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I love RX-7s....no doubt about that...I was even thinking about purchasing one over my 8 (i thought mine was sexier...and had 2 more seats ) but a lot of people don't see how modern our rotary is...their engine is twin turboed and our engine does not have a stock turbo...the 8s are still running 5.9s 0-60 (don't burn me for this...road and track magazine...just stating someone else's testing) this is what amazes me about this car...no turbo...an incredibly small engine and still pushing 238hp...i know RX-7s are faster...but if i was twin turboed...i wonder who'd be faster
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Originally Posted by RX-8 friend
Well I just read the thread "RX-8 to RX-7"on the RX-7 Forum. I think those of you who think RX-7 owners are elitist or look down on the RX-8 have mis-interpreted. Read it! Most 7 owners were envious of the 8 owner!

Just because we say (and know) the 3rd gen is faster and more powerful, doesn't mean we don't like the 8. The 8 is a great car, handles at least as well as a 3rd gen, has a much nicer transmission, has room for passengers, and is a modern fully integrated electronic car!
With a name like "RX-8 friend", how can we doubt you?

There are ignorant and immature folks who drive both cars, so I suppose that's why we get such views from both 8 and 7 owners. However, it's rare that anyone on this forum does any hating on the RX-7. Everyone loves the FD. The same can't be said of some RX-7 owners about the 8.

Maybe we 8 owners aren't so anxious to hunt down FDs to say "hi" for fear that they'll interpret things wrongly and choose to blow our 4 doors off.
Old 09-11-2005, 11:39 PM
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I don't even acknowledge other 8 drivers. It's just a car. OK, so the other 8 driver bought the same car as me. So what? Can he/she heel and toe? Is that other 8 driver a decent human being? What about their politics? Do they cheat on their significant others? Beat their dogs? Could be. I just get my kicks with the car by myself and leave it at that. It's like when I had a Porsche, BMW, or Audi. I wouldn't do the flash the headlights at intersections or sign the other person. That's cheesy as hell. It's just a car. Who cares what the RX-7 drivers think. I don't even care what other RX-8 drivers think.
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
With a name like "RX-8 friend", how can we doubt you?

There are ignorant and immature folks who drive both cars, so I suppose that's why we get such views from both 8 and 7 owners. However, it's rare that anyone on this forum does any hating on the RX-7. Everyone loves the FD. The same can't be said of some RX-7 owners about the 8.

Maybe we 8 owners aren't so anxious to hunt down FDs to say "hi" for fear that they'll interpret things wrongly and choose to blow our 4 doors off.
FDs are rare though.

Hell, I think I've seen more Ferraris than I have FDs. I've never got acknowledged from another RX-8 (or other RX) owner on the road. I usually look over and they're not looking so I just continue driving. (Of course, they probably looked over after I gave up on them and thought "cold shoulder!")

I've been acknowledged by someone at the gas station who gave me a thumbs up and when I gave him a confused look pointed to his RX-8 he was walking to. And I told this guy I parked next to with a white RX-8 "Nice car" and he just gave me a confused awkward nod of his head.
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Don't forget to give love to your piston relatives. We like rotors too.
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Had a 93 FD R1 RX-7


Have a 05 RX-8 GT


I cry when I think about not having my FD. It was the most beautiful car I have ever seen and went like a bat out of hell. I love my RX-8 too. It reminds me of my FC GXL 2+2. The FD and RX-8 are totally different cars each with thier own merits.

Any FD owners out there should pray the RX-8 does well, or we will never see another RX-7 again. Plus every one know "If it ain't a rotor it ain't motor!"
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Originally Posted by Styjan
Had a 93 FD R1 RX-7


Have a 05 RX-8 GT


I cry when I think about not having my FD. It was the most beautiful car I have ever seen and went like a bat out of hell. I love my RX-8 too. It reminds me of my FC GXL 2+2. The FD and RX-8 are totally different cars each with thier own merits.

Any FD owners out there should pray the RX-8 does well, or we will never see another RX-7 again. Plus every one know "If it ain't a rotor it ain't motor!"
Nicely said, what happened to your FD By the way?
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As a long-time owner of a 3rd gen 7, I have to say that 7 owners tend to be snobby even amongst themselves. The "old-school" doesn't appreciate the fact that the "new-school" is buying up their cars and "ricing" them out... Personally, I don't acknowledge either car unless I'm in the paddock at the track, too frequently it turns into a street-light race which is just pointless.
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Well I'm an owner of an 88 S4 FC (Non-Turbo'd) being restored, 93 TT Touring RX7 (maybe selling soon to buy a 93 TT Champion Yellow Mica Efini RX7) and an 04 RX8. I love all 3 cars, and I'm going to be looking for an FB when I have the room to park 4 cars lol. Each car is completely different, each has their upside, and downside. You know what though I respect each and every rotary car out there, all the way back to the RX2, and even the rotary power truck that mazda once made. But if the RX7 guys want to hate, then let em, but when my RX8 is hanging with the RX7's then maybe that'll catch their attention. MAUHAHAHAHAHA, my 8 is coming for you 7's, lol. Still respect ya'll guys, but gotta put ya'll in your place lol.
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FDs are rare though.

Hell, I think I've seen more Ferraris than I have FDs. I've never got acknowledged from another RX-8 (or other RX) owner on the road. I usually look over and they're not looking so I just continue driving. (Of course, they probably looked over after I gave up on them and thought "cold shoulder!")

I've been acknowledged by someone at the gas station who gave me a thumbs up and when I gave him a confused look pointed to his RX-8 he was walking to. And I told this guy I parked next to with a white RX-8 "Nice car" and he just gave me a confused awkward nod of his head.
I think it was Meeee!!! :D But I'm not sure! I live in California, and I was at the gas station when I saw white.... I forgot if it was RX-8 or 7, But anyways I said nice car, and the other dude gave me a weird look, and said u too. Then he said something i didn't hear, so I gave an expression of What?? But i guess he saw me *** :o
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