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Ike 02-25-2006 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
c'mon we both know gtecs arn't reliable. :mdrmed:

first off it lists the evos power at 250????hmmmm why 250 hp when the real specs are 243-244.

Let's see some real slips? :hahano:


Anyways, the 7 is faster :bootyshak :bootyshak :bootyshak :bootyshak :bootyshak :bootyshak :bootyshak :bootyshak

The Evo I was 250 in the UK, 260 for the Evo II :)

Your mom has the timeslips. :dunno:

Teh SRT-4 is teh fastar! :Freak_ani

DARKMAZ8 02-25-2006 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by Ike
Paul Walker > Vin Diesel
Supra > RX-7
Evo > Humanity

:mdrmed:

vin diesel/rx7 > 2f2f evo with ricer parts/paul walker
rx7/vin diesel>eclipes w/ 2 bottle of naws/paul walker
rx7>universe>humanity

DARKMAZ8 02-25-2006 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by Ike

Your mom has the timeslips. :dunno:

ok, I got the slip from my mom. Here's the race between vin(rx7--right) and paul(evo--left).

http://www.sidewlk.homestead.com/files/59/Time_slip.jpg
what's your excuse now? :bootyshak

Ike 02-25-2006 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
ok, I got the slip from my mom. Here's the race between vin(rx7--right) and paul(evo--left).


what's your excuse now? :bootyshak

I'll let you know once you tell me your excuse for not putting any numbers up.

DARKMAZ8 02-25-2006 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by Ike
I'll let you know once you tell me your excuse for not putting any numbers up.

It's up now...geez

great reaction time tho :mdrmed:

Ike 02-25-2006 12:48 AM

Whoops, now that the timeslip that ate Tokyo has been posted I must admit defeat. But I'll be back!

DARKMAZ8 02-25-2006 12:52 AM

yay!

Captain Amazing 02-25-2006 02:17 AM

WTF has this thread turned into? Anyway, we can all agree that the RX-8 is definately slow. But honestly, who cares? How many times do you get into a race anyway?

JRichter 02-25-2006 02:18 AM

What was the topic of this post?

Oh ya, RX-7 vs RX-8.

1979 Mazda RX-7 GS 9.2 17.0
1982 Mazda RX-7 GSL 9.7 N/A
1983 Mazda RX-7 GS 9.5 17.0
1984 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE 7.8 15.9
1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL 9.9 17.4
1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.7 15.1
1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
1991 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 8.8 16.7
1991 Mazda RX-7 Infini IV 7.0 14.9
1993 Mazda RX-7 5.5 14.0
1993 Mazda RX-7 R1 5.3 13.9
1994 Mazda RX-7 5.3 14.0
1994 Mazda RX-7 Touring 6.0 14.5 (auto)
1995 Mazda RX-7 R2 5.0 14.0
2004 Mazda RX-8 5.8 14.49 (6 speed) (MT Mar '04)

SOURCE: http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

Raptor2k 02-25-2006 02:19 AM

Slow by what standards?

JRichter 02-25-2006 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Slow by what standards?

Good question...

Based on all of the production cars on the road at this very minute in America, the RX-8 is still probably in the to 1% of the fastest.

(think about this, what is the top selling vehicle in America? Last time I checked it was a Ford F-series truck.)

Raptor2k 02-25-2006 02:29 AM

Exactly

astro 02-25-2006 04:59 AM

:D: I'm gonna do track lessons. I wanna be a fast driver to make my RX8 go faster. :scratchhe

DrDiaboloco 02-25-2006 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Slow by what standards?

Exactly.

Sorry, Captain Amazing, I don't think anyone here is agreeing that the RX8 is "slow".

Slower than a last-gen RX7? Sure. Slower than an Evo, an STi, A Mustang GT, a GTO, etc.? Sure.

But SLOW? Not hardly.

Luckily there is much more to a car than timeslips, which anyone who isn't all hung up on "I can beat you in a streetrace, huh huh huh" will recognize. I don't lose any sleep at night knowing that a 350Z or five year-old Camaro SS will beat me in a drag race, and beat me badly. If I wanted a dragster, I would've gotten that GTO instead.

Nemesis8 02-25-2006 11:36 AM

Why does everyone compare the normally aspirated RX8 to all the other forced induction cars out there? Once the 8's get FI in masses, then all the talk on all the boards will change for sure. It's only a matter of time.

rotary>piston

:rock:

Ike 02-25-2006 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Why does everyone compare the normally aspirated RX8 to all the other forced induction cars out there? Once the 8's get FI in masses, then all the talk on all the boards will change for sure. It's only a matter of time.

rotary>piston

:rock:

I've been hearing that for 3 years, it's not happening.

Nemesis8 02-25-2006 12:43 PM

Yep, it's been a long three years for sure. I'm aiming my car to be boosted in '07. That's almost four years after I took delivery! Maybe I should have just purchased a used 3rd gen and dumped money into a 20B swap :)

Ike 02-25-2006 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by DrDiaboloco
Exactly.

Sorry, Captain Amazing, I don't think anyone here is agreeing that the RX8 is "slow".

Slower than a last-gen RX7? Sure. Slower than an Evo, an STi, A Mustang GT, a GTO, etc.? Sure.

But SLOW? Not hardly.

Luckily there is much more to a car than timeslips, which anyone who isn't all hung up on "I can beat you in a streetrace, huh huh huh" will recognize. I don't lose any sleep at night knowing that a 350Z or five year-old Camaro SS will beat me in a drag race, and beat me badly. If I wanted a dragster, I would've gotten that GTO instead.

To some people it's slow... the RX-8 feels slow to me, I'm not about to call it slow, but it's not fast. There are plenty of family sedans, sport compacts, and small SUVs that will beat the RX-8 or give it a good run for its money. Also, just because a car is fast ina straight line doesn't mean it's a dragster, there are plenty of cars out there that handle well and are as fast or faster than the RX-8.

RotoRocket 02-25-2006 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Ike
To some people it's slow... the RX-8 feels slow to me, I'm not about to call it slow, but it's not fast. There are plenty of family sedans, sport compacts, and small SUVs that will beat the RX-8 or give it a good run for its money. Also, just because a car is fast ina straight line doesn't mean it's a dragster, there are plenty of cars out there that handle well and are as fast or faster than the RX-8.

I think that saying "[t]here are plenty of family sedans, sport compacts, and small SUVs that will beat the RX-8..." is pretty much a meritless claim.

But please do name such "plenty" vehicles...especially the family sedans and small SUVs.

BlueEyes 02-25-2006 01:03 PM

arguing semantics is so fun!

kmg1186 02-25-2006 01:05 PM

i feel stupider after reading this thread. what a waste of my time. quit your bickering. kiss and make up.

Roaddemon 02-25-2006 01:08 PM

Back on subject, test drive the rx-7 and then the 8. You'll want the 8. It's much more car. It feels fast for all practicle situations. You won't be sorry. Just don't race, light weight, 280 hp cars and you'll be OK. A stock fd won't shake an 8 on the road.

Captain Amazing 02-25-2006 01:10 PM

Alright, This is what I meant. The RX-8 is quick in a straight line. Not exactly fast or slow but it will get the job done. However, the RX-8 is awesome in the corners as that is what it was meant to do which is why it destroys everything in autocross events or very tight courses. :)

BlueEyes 02-25-2006 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Amazing
However, the RX-8 is awesome in the corners as that is what it was meant to do which is why it destroys everything in autocross events or very tight courses. :)

I take an autocross course to work in the mornings.

tuj 02-25-2006 01:26 PM

The RX-8 chassis is significantly better than the FD, although the RX-8 is heavier. I have been faster than decently driven FC's and 350z at the track, although both cars have an advantage over the RX-8 on the straights. Drive an RX-8 hard and you'll find that it is an amazingly expressive and rewarding car. The engine is so smooth, and the rush of its rev's is really quite outstanding. In the upper revs, the torque curve is relatively flat, and the throttle response is excellent.

Yes, its not an FD, nor was it meant to be. The FD was Mazda's be-all, end-all sports car. But with the 8, you get a better everyday car, with better street-going suspension, a high-quality interior and exterior, and a factory warranty.

I personally like the RX-8 over the FB and FC, although I would love to get an FD someday. But keep in mind that the FD takes a significant amount of work and $ to make it reliable, and it has a lot more things to be concerned with than the 8. The 8 just needs oil, and to be warmed up every time you take it out. The FD needs all of that, plus more frequent oil changes (for the turbos). It needs you to watch the boost levels and make sure there are no spikes or creep. It has a complex turbo system with many potential points of failure. But its also a brillant car, and certainly faster than the RX-8 in nearly all situations. An interesting point, Mazda had a lapping session at Laguna Seca at the 8's launch and supposedly the RX-8 posted similar times to the FD, when both were driven by a pro.


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