RX-8 Versus Porsche 968
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I havent owned the porsche, I personally wouldnt choose the rx8 anyways. It handles great, the flooding really isnt an issue, my 04 has never flooded. The oil consumption really depends on your driving and its really not a big deal at all. I go through about 1 extra quart per oil change. Not to mention oil changes are cheap, the thing holds like 3-4 quarts and has a normal off the shelf filter. The torque is an issue though, there isnt ANY. Mine is auto so it makes it 10x worse. I would assume that with the 6spd it wouldnt be near as big of a deal.
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Age is the key. A 968 would be great but I wouldn't want to have to fix anything on it (which I'm sure you will).
A 968 is the newer 944 which is basically the newer/upmarket 924 so I see them sharing parts.
A 968 was a 944 that was upgraded/reworked so much that Porsche called it a 968 instead of 944.
A 968 was a 944 that was upgraded/reworked so much that Porsche called it a 968 instead of 944.
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I've coming up on 2 years with my RX-8 and overall it's been a great car (except the poor mpg, lack of torque and horrible traction control in my opinion). Recently I got a 1994 Porsche 968! They are certainly different cars but after driving both cars, I love the 968 better. In my opinion the suspension (ride quality) is better, engine roar is more pleasant than the rotary and 968 is more torquee (better 0-60 feel). The 968 just feels more like a true thoroughbred sports car. The 968 exterior looks and feels surprising refreshing (front has cues of the 997 / 987). MPG on the 968 is far better than the RX-8... which amounts to something in this $4+/gallon world.
The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
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The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
Without the controls you'll also lengthen your rear pads life.
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I've coming up on 2 years with my RX-8 and overall it's been a great car (except the poor mpg, lack of torque and horrible traction control in my opinion). Recently I got a 1994 Porsche 968! They are certainly different cars but after driving both cars, I love the 968 better. In my opinion the suspension (ride quality) is better, engine roar is more pleasant than the rotary and 968 is more torquee (better 0-60 feel). The 968 just feels more like a true thoroughbred sports car. The 968 exterior looks and feels surprising refreshing (front has cues of the 997 / 987). MPG on the 968 is far better than the RX-8... which amounts to something in this $4+/gallon world.
The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
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I've coming up on 2 years with my RX-8 and overall it's been a great car (except the poor mpg, lack of torque and horrible traction control in my opinion). Recently I got a 1994 Porsche 968! They are certainly different cars but after driving both cars, I love the 968 better. In my opinion the suspension (ride quality) is better, engine roar is more pleasant than the rotary and 968 is more torquee (better 0-60 feel). The 968 just feels more like a true thoroughbred sports car. The 968 exterior looks and feels surprising refreshing (front has cues of the 997 / 987). MPG on the 968 is far better than the RX-8... which amounts to something in this $4+/gallon world.
The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
The worst thing I hate about my RX-8 is how invasive the traction control is at the cars limits. The rear end gets twitchy on tight cornering. The 968 is much more progressive and you feel you're getting more feedback on tight cornering.
Photos of my Porsche 968: http://gallery.mac.com/armando_santana#100018
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I had a 944S2 (the 968's immediate predecessor in the naturally-aspirated front-engined line) for almost 2 years. It was quite reliable, although parts and maintenance were pricey.
My fetish is handling and feel...and in these respects the RX-8 is at least equal to the Porsche but in many ways the 2 cars are similar (resistant to understeer, adjustable, communicative). Both cars have a lot of personality and a certain mystique about them. But in the end, the RX-8 is a modern car and the 968 is not, and adults can fit in the back of the RX-8 but not the 968, so for me the choice would be clear as I need a 4-seat daily driver.
As a toy, though...it is not so clear. Whichever puts the biggest smile on your face, I guess.
My fetish is handling and feel...and in these respects the RX-8 is at least equal to the Porsche but in many ways the 2 cars are similar (resistant to understeer, adjustable, communicative). Both cars have a lot of personality and a certain mystique about them. But in the end, the RX-8 is a modern car and the 968 is not, and adults can fit in the back of the RX-8 but not the 968, so for me the choice would be clear as I need a 4-seat daily driver.
As a toy, though...it is not so clear. Whichever puts the biggest smile on your face, I guess.
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OMG these cars are SOOOO cheap on the inside its not even funny, plus that tranny gets in the way of the drivers side + you cant recline your seats, and the big *** front end! OMG, i seriously got in one, and asked my self why would anyone buy this car? you would die if you were closterphobic...
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Love the way that car looks. Beautiful. But there's no way anyone who really understands sports cars would choose one over an MX-5... a vastly superior car.
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when I test drove one, the first thing I noticed is that my right leg could press on the side of the center console and the entire thing bent and make creaking noises.
Let's also not forget the ergonomics in the vehicle is non existent.
Let's also not forget the ergonomics in the vehicle is non existent.
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Sure. Basically every other month something breaks. Sometimes it's just a few hundred to fix, other times it was much more. For example, the AC twice broke, resulting with 200F air blowing out the vents and had no way to disable it. Rack and pinion steering broke, needing to be replaced. Automatic window motors would die out on me. Bushings needing to be replaced, the list goes on and on. I never had any engine problems, but one transmission died on me. I might have been to blame because I was banging on it a lot. All were DDs.
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sounds like my RX8
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I guess my Porsche experiance must be unique. My 28 year old 911 Targa has been quite reliable. I've spent $2946 on repair AND maintance in the 7 years that I've had it. And that includes $1700 to replace the heavy clutch with a new, lighter unit. I use it as my sunny day DD. If it's nice out I'm in it. Any car can be a money pit. My first Acura legend went 170,000 trouble free miles, our second one had some issue almost every other week. If you want to learn about Porsches check out pelicanparts.com. A great group of very knowledgeable and helpful people. Learn all you can about the car of your intrest, and take your time finding the best one you can. You only live once, enjoy it.
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I guess my Porsche experiance must be unique. My 28 year old 911 Targa has been quite reliable. I've spent $2946 on repair AND maintance in the 7 years that I've had it. And that includes $1700 to replace the heavy clutch with a new, lighter unit. I use it as my sunny day DD.
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Porsche parts are very pricey, and you will need them. Much more often then Mazda parts.
The RX8 drives better then the 928 GTS does. Can't relate that to the 968, just worth mentioning.
The con to the RX8 is a lack of bottom end grunt. But it revs so freely not having all those valve springs to hammer down, the missing torque sin is quickly forgiven.
While you may have the 968 in mind, if I were going to buy another vintage Porsche it would be a restored late 70's 911, 1974-78. Those cars are simply timeless classics. Thyssen steel chassis made them hyper-resistent to rust and it was just before Porsche began to follow the annual body weight profile of Kirsty Allie so they were reasonably light cars. Fun to drive, and maximum head turning for the price.
The RX8 drives better then the 928 GTS does. Can't relate that to the 968, just worth mentioning.
The con to the RX8 is a lack of bottom end grunt. But it revs so freely not having all those valve springs to hammer down, the missing torque sin is quickly forgiven.
While you may have the 968 in mind, if I were going to buy another vintage Porsche it would be a restored late 70's 911, 1974-78. Those cars are simply timeless classics. Thyssen steel chassis made them hyper-resistent to rust and it was just before Porsche began to follow the annual body weight profile of Kirsty Allie so they were reasonably light cars. Fun to drive, and maximum head turning for the price.
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umm...i'm going to have to disagree with everyone here. get a low mileage porsche and you wont be unhappy. my dad's 1995 911 convertible has 40k miles and has only had one major problem. the car could probably be purchased for high 20s to very low 30s--similar to a gt rx8 i guess. the part that broke was the convertible mechanism, resulting in 5k dollars, but you wont have that problem because you dont want a convertible there is nothing like driving that car, seriously. probably would get annoying as a dd though. i say get a 911
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I have never been a fan of the 968 hardtop bodystyle. The convertable bodystyle, now that is sexy as hell.
But the hardtop bulbous rear, not a fan.
I personally would only get the Porsche if I really, really wanted a Porsche, I didn't mind it being in the shop, and I had the financial means to have it in the shop way too often, and I had a daily driver.
Additionally.......the flooding problem has been fixed, if I am not mistaken.
At least in my case, 2004 MT, it has never flooded.
But the hardtop bulbous rear, not a fan.
I personally would only get the Porsche if I really, really wanted a Porsche, I didn't mind it being in the shop, and I had the financial means to have it in the shop way too often, and I had a daily driver.
Additionally.......the flooding problem has been fixed, if I am not mistaken.
At least in my case, 2004 MT, it has never flooded.
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Porsche parts are very pricey, and you will need them. Much more often then Mazda parts.
The RX8 drives better then the 928 GTS does. Can't relate that to the 968, just worth mentioning.
The con to the RX8 is a lack of bottom end grunt. But it revs so freely not having all those valve springs to hammer down, the missing torque sin is quickly forgiven.
While you may have the 968 in mind, if I were going to buy another vintage Porsche it would be a restored late 70's 911, 1974-78. Those cars are simply timeless classics. Thyssen steel chassis made them hyper-resistent to rust and it was just before Porsche began to follow the annual body weight profile of Kirsty Allie so they were reasonably light cars. Fun to drive, and maximum head turning for the price.
The RX8 drives better then the 928 GTS does. Can't relate that to the 968, just worth mentioning.
The con to the RX8 is a lack of bottom end grunt. But it revs so freely not having all those valve springs to hammer down, the missing torque sin is quickly forgiven.
While you may have the 968 in mind, if I were going to buy another vintage Porsche it would be a restored late 70's 911, 1974-78. Those cars are simply timeless classics. Thyssen steel chassis made them hyper-resistent to rust and it was just before Porsche began to follow the annual body weight profile of Kirsty Allie so they were reasonably light cars. Fun to drive, and maximum head turning for the price.
The '75 to '77 911's were the WORST. Count on an engine rebuild every 60,000 miles at least. And only the post-75's used galvanized steel. The 911SC and Carrera models ('78-'89) are more expensive but much more desirable (and still very svelte and diminutive!)
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^^^Correct! The 2.7 liter engine had major head stud issues and non-galv bodys. The 3.0 SC that came after was a much better car.
I'll agree with Icemark on the 924, but from the 944 on they were real Porsches. Built in Stuttgart with what was half the 928 engine.
I'll agree with Icemark on the 924, but from the 944 on they were real Porsches. Built in Stuttgart with what was half the 928 engine.