RX-8 or STi ?
10-18-2003, 06:33 PM
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how much does it cost anyways to replace a rotary motor?
i was looking at the STi, and i ended up with the Rx-8. With that much raw power the STi has i know ill get hammered every day for speeding. I like my rx-8 its sooo much fun.. and the sound of the rotor is sooo damn sexy
i was looking at the STi, and i ended up with the Rx-8. With that much raw power the STi has i know ill get hammered every day for speeding. I like my rx-8 its sooo much fun.. and the sound of the rotor is sooo damn sexy
10-18-2003, 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Pulsr
how much does it cost anyways to replace a rotary motor?
i was looking at the STi, and i ended up with the Rx-8. With that much raw power the STi has i know ill get hammered every day for speeding. I like my rx-8 its sooo much fun.. and the sound of the rotor is sooo damn sexy
how much does it cost anyways to replace a rotary motor?
i was looking at the STi, and i ended up with the Rx-8. With that much raw power the STi has i know ill get hammered every day for speeding. I like my rx-8 its sooo much fun.. and the sound of the rotor is sooo damn sexy
10-20-2003, 01:14 PM
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Sure you can get power by buying a Subaru, though if you were looking for power why not buy a Corvette? I chose the 8 because it looks great drives great and I love the power it does have, and for the idiots that keep talking about their dumbass WRXs and Evos I'll just pull the bike out of the garage and smoke them....in the corners and in a straight line. And as an owner of the 300ZTT I can tell you they don't hold their value and are very easy to pick up cheap because they break and stay that way.
10-20-2003, 01:14 PM
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ive been thinking about this the rx-8 handling better then an STi. The rx-8 probably wont have a problem entering a turn and exiting all quick and all, but if you dont get out of the turn right wouldnt you be harmed horribly by all that missing torque? i mean with my sisters STi she just charges the turn and flys out of there...
as for me im kinda like zoooooom brakeeeeeeeeeee... accelerating zooooooom
my sister is more like zooooooooooooooooooooooooooom brakeeeeeeeeee... turbo lag ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
as for me im kinda like zoooooom brakeeeeeeeeeee... accelerating zooooooom
my sister is more like zooooooooooooooooooooooooooom brakeeeeeeeeee... turbo lag ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
10-20-2003, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
You know nothing about modding cars, nor anything about modded Subarus. Get back to me when a modded RX-8 with a renesis runs 9s and we'll talk.
You know nothing about modding cars, nor anything about modded Subarus. Get back to me when a modded RX-8 with a renesis runs 9s and we'll talk.
10-20-2003, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Tronics
And you know nothing about modded Rx's. When Suby. wins a lemans race with their engine get back to me and we'll talk. The FD's were easy to mod once they were available. And coveted 20b conversion *drool* would spank the puny sti in every catagory.
And you know nothing about modded Rx's. When Suby. wins a lemans race with their engine get back to me and we'll talk. The FD's were easy to mod once they were available. And coveted 20b conversion *drool* would spank the puny sti in every catagory.
10-20-2003, 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Pulsr
so... your saying that the rx-8 motor isnt good enough??? that we have to get a new motor to compete... thanks... i feel very good about my car now
so... your saying that the rx-8 motor isnt good enough??? that we have to get a new motor to compete... thanks... i feel very good about my car now
10-20-2003, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Bigcat44
Sure you can get power by buying a Subaru, though if you were looking for power why not buy a Corvette? I chose the 8 because it looks great drives great and I love the power it does have, and for the idiots that keep talking about their dumbass WRXs and Evos I'll just pull the bike out of the garage and smoke them....in the corners and in a straight line. And as an owner of the 300ZTT I can tell you they don't hold their value and are very easy to pick up cheap because they break and stay that way.
Sure you can get power by buying a Subaru, though if you were looking for power why not buy a Corvette? I chose the 8 because it looks great drives great and I love the power it does have, and for the idiots that keep talking about their dumbass WRXs and Evos I'll just pull the bike out of the garage and smoke them....in the corners and in a straight line. And as an owner of the 300ZTT I can tell you they don't hold their value and are very easy to pick up cheap because they break and stay that way.
10-20-2003, 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Pulsr
ive been thinking about this the rx-8 handling better then an STi. The rx-8 probably wont have a problem entering a turn and exiting all quick and all, but if you dont get out of the turn right wouldnt you be harmed horribly by all that missing torque? i mean with my sisters STi she just charges the turn and flys out of there...
as for me im kinda like zoooooom brakeeeeeeeeeee... accelerating zooooooom
my sister is more like zooooooooooooooooooooooooooom brakeeeeeeeeee... turbo lag ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
ive been thinking about this the rx-8 handling better then an STi. The rx-8 probably wont have a problem entering a turn and exiting all quick and all, but if you dont get out of the turn right wouldnt you be harmed horribly by all that missing torque? i mean with my sisters STi she just charges the turn and flys out of there...
as for me im kinda like zoooooom brakeeeeeeeeeee... accelerating zooooooom
my sister is more like zooooooooooooooooooooooooooom brakeeeeeeeeee... turbo lag ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
10-20-2003, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Tronics
No I'm saying, there are so many possibilities for the RENESIS as was for the 13b. I don't see why the RENESIS couldn't be converted to a 3-rotor.
No I'm saying, there are so many possibilities for the RENESIS as was for the 13b. I don't see why the RENESIS couldn't be converted to a 3-rotor.
10-20-2003, 02:00 PM
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Re: RX-8 or STi ?
Originally posted by Xyntax
Damn it!!! I was already set on getting the RX-8 until I realized what a disappointment it was (for me) that the power is not even close to 200hp and gas mileage is like it's running V8 @ 400hp! Anyways, a thought flashed in while I was flying down to Newport beach from San Jose. Looking at the Salinas area's open grounds I thought about how great it would be to go offroading there. And then... the idea of getting Subaru WRX STi came to me.
Its not that offroading is the only reason to get the STi over the RX-8 but many more. Anyways, aside from the looks (i know RX-8 wins hands down) could you RX-8 fans and owners give me points why I should not get the STi over RX-8? Like say, engine probs, transmission probs, bad ride, etc etc...
The reason I want you to is because at the time I first wanted the RX-8, I was looking for reasons why I should not get it. And then I found them...
HELP
Damn it!!! I was already set on getting the RX-8 until I realized what a disappointment it was (for me) that the power is not even close to 200hp and gas mileage is like it's running V8 @ 400hp! Anyways, a thought flashed in while I was flying down to Newport beach from San Jose. Looking at the Salinas area's open grounds I thought about how great it would be to go offroading there. And then... the idea of getting Subaru WRX STi came to me.
Its not that offroading is the only reason to get the STi over the RX-8 but many more. Anyways, aside from the looks (i know RX-8 wins hands down) could you RX-8 fans and owners give me points why I should not get the STi over RX-8? Like say, engine probs, transmission probs, bad ride, etc etc...
The reason I want you to is because at the time I first wanted the RX-8, I was looking for reasons why I should not get it. And then I found them...
HELP
I do have to say that Mazda built quality is better than at least Evo. STI is a bit better than the Evo as well.
BTW Evo doesn't have cruise control so if you do a lot of long trip I wouldn't get the Evo.
10-20-2003, 04:12 PM
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STi is a turbocharged rent-a-car. Its just not a cool car, i dont care how fast it is. Nobody looks at an STi and thinks "wow thats cool" they think "why does that budget rent-a-car have a spoiler and look all retarded?"
10-20-2003, 04:31 PM
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I agree it does look like a hmmm..High School car. Bottom line is I love my 8 and wouldn't trade it for any Mitsu and especially not a Subaru, they are junk. And as for racing your sister in her STi through some corners, it's how fast you can get through the corner and the 8 will take it.
10-20-2003, 05:06 PM
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You guys are pitiful, I respect and like the 8. Some people like the looks of the WRX and STi, and most other car enthusiasts are rather impressed with what the WRX, STi, and EVO can do. As far as Subarus being junk, throughout the years they have had much better reliability than Mazda. The biggest difference between the two cars is the RX-8 looks fast the STi IS fast, and that bugs the hell out of some of you doesn't it. The STi is pure performance, the RX-8 is looking more and more like it's for people that think looks and cute little rotary accents throughout their interior is neat and is the most important part of a car. I know there are people that will be autoxing their cars, and that bought the car for the things besides it's looks, but there aren't many in this thread. True car enthusiasts respect other performance cars.
Tronics, I was talking about the RX-8 and you bring up the FD and 20b for some reason. Last time I checked the lemans car had a 4 rotor engine in it and Subarus mutiple WRC champ WRX has the same damn engine as the WRX, and the US spec STi has a higher displacement version. Take a look on other car boards, the STi gets oooos and ahhhhs, the RX-8 gets comments about how slow it is and how Mazda screwed up and it's not making the HP it's supposed to.
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Tronics, I was talking about the RX-8 and you bring up the FD and 20b for some reason. Last time I checked the lemans car had a 4 rotor engine in it and Subarus mutiple WRC champ WRX has the same damn engine as the WRX, and the US spec STi has a higher displacement version. Take a look on other car boards, the STi gets oooos and ahhhhs, the RX-8 gets comments about how slow it is and how Mazda screwed up and it's not making the HP it's supposed to.
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10-20-2003, 05:13 PM
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why does this guy post here?.
too funny. Yah ok, the 8 is slow (yeah right). You must have nothing better to do than post on a forum where you don't own the car, and probably never spent alot of time in one. We have seen many 1/4 times in the mid 14's. Is that slow? No
Compared to the STI maybe it is slower, but why such a hard on for that car. And if so, then I am sure there is a place for you talk about it all you want. God your good for a laugh
why does this guy post here?.
too funny. Yah ok, the 8 is slow (yeah right). You must have nothing better to do than post on a forum where you don't own the car, and probably never spent alot of time in one. We have seen many 1/4 times in the mid 14's. Is that slow? No
Compared to the STI maybe it is slower, but why such a hard on for that car. And if so, then I am sure there is a place for you talk about it all you want. God your good for a laugh
10-20-2003, 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by RussellP
STi is a turbocharged rent-a-car. Its just not a cool car, i dont care how fast it is. Nobody looks at an STi and thinks "wow thats cool" they think "why does that budget rent-a-car have a spoiler and look all retarded?"
STi is a turbocharged rent-a-car. Its just not a cool car, i dont care how fast it is. Nobody looks at an STi and thinks "wow thats cool" they think "why does that budget rent-a-car have a spoiler and look all retarded?"
10-20-2003, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Broker73
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why does this guy post here?.
too funny. Yah ok, the 8 is slow (yeah right). You must have nothing better to do than post on a forum where you don't own the car, and probably never spent alot of time in one. We have seen many 1/4 times in the mid 14's. Is that slow? No
Compared to the STI maybe it is slower, but why such a hard on for that car. And if so, then I am sure there is a place for you talk about it all you want. God your good for a laugh
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why does this guy post here?.
too funny. Yah ok, the 8 is slow (yeah right). You must have nothing better to do than post on a forum where you don't own the car, and probably never spent alot of time in one. We have seen many 1/4 times in the mid 14's. Is that slow? No
Compared to the STI maybe it is slower, but why such a hard on for that car. And if so, then I am sure there is a place for you talk about it all you want. God your good for a laugh
You've seen one person come close to the mag times on race gas, and no I don't think it's slow. I'm just relaying what other car forums are saying about the 8. I've also spent more time in an 8 than some of the people so dilligently defending the 8.
10-20-2003, 05:22 PM
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Dont forget the STi has a few years of development behind it, including turbocharging, and Subaru have improved the performance step by step. The same will happen to the RX8 / Renesis. But what Subaru didnt manage to do was give it good looks. You mention comments about the RX8 being slow and thirsty but I see hundreds of comments about the STi looking like a rat on stilts and dogs barking at it as it drives past. And that does matter to most people.
10-20-2003, 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
They are different cars for people looking for something... well, different in a car. :p Lets just leave it at that and be done.
They are different cars for people looking for something... well, different in a car. :p Lets just leave it at that and be done.
10-20-2003, 05:46 PM
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I don't think some people should call the WRX and STi ugly. This guy obviously likes them and calling it ugly will make your opinion on this matter irrelevant from the get go. I'm not crazy about the big spoiler on the STi but I hate the ones on the Mazdaspeed cars too. And I'm not totally in love with all the plastic ground effects that Mazda just tapes to their cars now including the 8. It makes them look like something a 18 year old would drive. Back to the Sti vs RX-8, I don't see how you could go wrong. One is a great sports car that is very practical in every day driving and the other is a street legal rally car that would be a blast to drive if you don't mind it for every day use. Two very good cars at what they are made to do. And IkeWRX, I think people can give you a little too hard of a time here. Usually you don't blast the 8 until someone blasts the WRX or you. But some of the Z people just look to **** us off. Just my opinion.
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Ike,
Quick question..where have you read that Subaru has better reliability then Mazda? I only ask because that is the biggest BS I've heard this week. It's great that you like your car, I like my car but I am not all over your board posting how ugly your car is or how your car is slightly faster than mine (off the showroom floor). Give it time my friend and you will see what the 8 is capable of. Until that time take your P.O.S Subaru and post on your own board. Besides don't you have to watch Fast and Furious 1 and 2?
Quick question..where have you read that Subaru has better reliability then Mazda? I only ask because that is the biggest BS I've heard this week. It's great that you like your car, I like my car but I am not all over your board posting how ugly your car is or how your car is slightly faster than mine (off the showroom floor). Give it time my friend and you will see what the 8 is capable of. Until that time take your P.O.S Subaru and post on your own board. Besides don't you have to watch Fast and Furious 1 and 2?