View Poll Results: How fast do you think the RX-8 will go in the slalom?
62.6 - 65.0 mph
5
9.62%
65.1 - 67.5 mph
11
21.15%
67.6 - 70.0 mph
23
44.23%
70.0 - 72.5 mph
13
25.00%
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RX-8 slalom?
03-06-2003, 08:54 PM
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its really strange how diff mags say different things. I remember reading one mag saying ride was comfortable and quiet and another saying it was a bit noisy. 
Then this handling....one mag says its not "grippy" compared to the Z and understeers, another says moderate oversteer can be easily induced Anyone have ideas as to why this is?
Then this handling....one mag says its not "grippy" compared to the Z and understeers, another says moderate oversteer can be easily induced Anyone have ideas as to why this is?
03-06-2003, 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Quick_lude
Are these tests always conducted in the same spot on the same surface, with very similar temperatures? If not, I'm sure the differences in the above can/will affect the results.. Just like in a skidpad test.
Are these tests always conducted in the same spot on the same surface, with very similar temperatures? If not, I'm sure the differences in the above can/will affect the results.. Just like in a skidpad test.
That's a very good point. The Road and Track article linked below qualitatively states the G35 handled better and then backups it up with the numbers. They also imply the cars were tested on two different days at their testing facilities, which I guess are in Southern California??? If so, there is a decent chance the there wasn't a huge difference in temperature (in comparison to how much the temperature can vary in other place- i.e. New York), but I can only speculate as to the actual testing conditions (I think R&T does list them on some articles now).
http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...eID=372&page=3
03-07-2003, 07:29 AM
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even still...
there can be a lot of excuses made about why the rx-8's slalom speed is somehow "lower than it's supposed to be", but the truth still remains that it wasn't as impressive as we thought it should be. from what i've read from this forum, most people will drive the car stock and do little or no modification on it (thus the notorious concern about low end torque), so stock numbers should matter no matter what tires the car is running on. i wonder why it didn't perform better on the slalom, when all the reviews seem to suggest that the 8 is a great cornering machine? I know that slalom speed isn't the the only measure of cornering performance, but still...
03-08-2003, 01:32 AM
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when all the reviews seem to suggest that the 8 is a great cornering machine?
03-08-2003, 01:42 AM
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Reviews that pit it up against the G35 and a Mustang.... yeah, comparitvly its a great cornering machine (the Stang is a clunker around the corners, and the G35 has a longer wheel base and 200 more pounds then the Z).
Reviews that pit it up against the G35 and a Mustang.... yeah, comparitvly its a great cornering machine (the Stang is a clunker around the corners, and the G35 has a longer wheel base and 200 more pounds then the Z).
What I want to see is it compared to the 330Ci, G35 Coupe, and a few others. Would be nice to see.
03-08-2003, 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
The G35 does not handle better then the Z.
The G35 does not handle better then the Z.
Take a read:
And thanks to its slightly longer wheelbase (112.2 in. to the Z's 104.3), the car feels more balanced and stable through corners than the Z, especially noticeable through quick left/right transitions where the Z's rear end can become a touch twitchy. In fact, the G35 recorded better handling numbers at the test track. It achieved 0.92g around the skidpad and danced through the slalom at 67.7 mph, besting the 350Z's 0.89g and 65.6 mph.
A = the RX-8, B = G35 Coupe, and C = 350Z.
Simple logic I use
03-09-2003, 01:36 PM
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What happened to the numbers don't mean everything stance you took when the G outscored the 8 in R&T?
The Z gets better lap times then both the 8 and the G35... so what would account for that?
The Z gets better lap times then both the 8 and the G35... so what would account for that?
03-09-2003, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
What happened to the numbers don't mean everything stance you took when the G outscored the 8 in R&T?
The Z gets better lap times then both the 8 and the G35... so what would account for that?
What happened to the numbers don't mean everything stance you took when the G outscored the 8 in R&T?
The Z gets better lap times then both the 8 and the G35... so what would account for that?
First, WHICH TRACK did the Z get better lap times than the 8, or G35? Not the same track as the run in C&D (which was by the way, full of straights), in which the Mustang took top honors. It was a power track meants for the monster engines. If you watched the C&D television program they still claimed the RX-8 was the easiest, and best to carve thru the turns at the track (the little there were).
Secondly, who is talking about numbers? I reposted the paragraph that explained the G35 Coupe was a better handling car but apparently you didn't read it. Let me idiot-proof it for you:
And thanks to its slightly longer wheelbase (112.2 in. to the Z's 104.3), the car feels more balanced and stable through corners than the Z, especially noticeable through quick left/right transitions where the Z's rear end can become a touch twitchy. In fact, the G35 recorded better handling numbers at the test track. It achieved 0.92g around the skidpad and danced through the slalom at 67.7 mph, besting the 350Z's 0.89g and 65.6 mph.
Lastly, please, and I ask this nicely... if you're going to debate that's fine.. but provide proof and references for what you're trying to back up. It's easier this way for both you to prove your point or vice versa.
Hope I cleared it up.
03-09-2003, 03:22 PM
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Herc has shown B>C. Now we'll see A>B hehe
Latest Car and Driver comparo.
G35C .86g
RX-8 .91g
Car and Driver: "a considerable margin beyond the cornering capablities of these two competitors. Its transient handling is similarly superior. And the RX-8 is the best stopper of this bunch."
Latest Car and Driver comparo.
G35C .86g
RX-8 .91g
Car and Driver: "a considerable margin beyond the cornering capablities of these two competitors. Its transient handling is similarly superior. And the RX-8 is the best stopper of this bunch."
03-09-2003, 05:54 PM
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03-09-2003, 07:14 PM
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Im SICK of this.... and i bet all of the rest of you are too.... There is NO way to win(im on the rx-8 side) at stat racing, hardly any of the tests are the same, drivers are not the same, tracks are not the same... i could list more... If you like the RX-8 BUY the rx-8, it has great value(dont make me define value) along with the rest of the comparo cars... we all know all the damn stats already.... Sick.. Just sick....
my opinion...
Gimme the damn car already!!!!!
my opinion...
Gimme the damn car already!!!!!
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