nsxpowered

Is there something wrong with me? I seem to read the CAPS faster and easier then the normal lowercase size.

sferrett

Funny - I have one sitting in my garage, not in the car...

I have been thinking about putting it back in and tuning it but haven't quite got around to it yet.

Frank Patrick

Get the N-Flash, then tell us if you more HP.

Deslock

I thought I read that some tuning changes for certain markets (such as N America) resulted in a hp decrease and that it still hits 247 hp in Japan. Not that it matters much...

This is an old list, but...

• Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.
• Bush is against a Homeland Security Department; then he's for it.
• Bush is against a 9/11 commission; then he's for it.
• Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.
• Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.
• Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.
• Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them again.
• Bush is against the U.S. taking a role in the Israeli Palestinian conflict; then he pushes for a "road map" and a Palestinian State.
• Bush is for states right to decide on gay marriage, then he is for changing the constitution.
• Bush first says he'll provide money for first responders (fire, police, emergency), then he doesn't.
• Bush first says that 'help is on the way' to the military ... then he cuts benefits
• Bush-"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. Bush-"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care."
• Bush claims to be in favor of the environment and then secretly starts drilling on Padre Island.
• Bush talks about helping education and increases mandates while cutting funding.
• Bush first says the U.S. won't negotiate with North Korea. Now he will
• Bush goes to Bob Jones University. Then say's he shouldn't have.
• Bush said he would demand a U.N. Security Council vote on whether to sanction military action against Iraq. Later Bush announced he would not call for a vote
• Bush said the "mission accomplished" banner was put up by the sailors. Bush later admits it was his advance team.
• Bush was for fingerprinting and photographing Mexicans who enter the US. Bush after meeting with Pres. Fox, he's against it.

(personally, I don't think everything there is considered changing one's point of view, but you get the point)

Deslock

WRX = faster at mid-range RPM
RX8 = faster at high RPM

Overall, they're close but the WRX is quicker in most situations... the point is they are comparable.

Deslock

All valid points. On a side note, a lot of people said the same thing about the S2000. I've driven both cars many times; the RX8 is a little slower, but it feels similar overall (acceleration-wise) and the difference is from it weighing a bit more and making slightly less hp.

Suppose the RX8 makes a peak of 226 hp (within the legal margin of error, but a bit short of the rated 238). Even if it made 238 (or 247), it still wouldn't feel like it to most people because they're acustomed the 240 hp meaning more pull at lower RPM.
I often see them sold by the pound, which is a much more meaningful measurement than quantity. Likewise, 5-60, 0-60, and 1/4 mile give much more info than peak hp.

The RX8 is a mid 14s car; When people ask me what its hp is, I say "Eh, 'bout 220 230". I really couldn't care less as I bought it for its other driving dynamics.

Ike

A lot of people may have said the same thing about the S2K, but I didn't feel that way. I felt it pulled nicely in the upper RPMs and felt a good margin faster than the RX-8. I didn't drive them close to the same time so maybe I would have felt differently if I had driven them back to back but I doubt it.

I'm not going to go back and read my chicken wing analogy. But I agree the acceleration numbers mean more than the HP numbers, but they also correlate.
The trap speeds of the RX-8 are a pretty good indication that it's not making the advertised HP. The numbers it puts up are also nothing special in todays car market considering there are several family sedans and inexpensive, sporty FWD cars making similar or better numbers. If you bought the car for it's dynamics I fully understand, it's a very fun car to drive even if it's not overly impressive in a straight line. But for me and many others a little more kick in the pants when you mash the gas would have been much appreciated and probably would have led to the RX-8 being a much greater success.

StewC625

HOLLYWOODHALL = SHOUTING MORON

RenoIV

What Stew said ....

dznutzuk

I really don't have enough time to read all 13pages(only 56k connection) but in Japan the rx-8 does come out in 3 different models and the highest is 275hp. Really have to start talking again to my connections in Japan and sorry if this is an old post I just got the 8 2weeks ago since I parted with the 8's father(the 7).

zoom44

there is no 275hp RX-8 being sold by Mazda anywhere in the world. do not spread rumours like that.