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Old 11-07-2011, 11:35 AM
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100% agree. I have the same opinion on the OP's actions you do.

I just habitually oppose contradiction, illogical, and irrational sides of any argument, separate from my own opinion on the matter It's called 'a failing' by many, including my wife, though I disagree with that too
Old 11-07-2011, 11:41 AM
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Ah, I drive a KW with a smaller nose(To hide my really under-powered engine). Then again, my entire truck's different, but I've been able to even see motorcycles right there. Then again, they typically are about 200 yards ahead in an instant merging in front of a truck, so they never stay there long.

Good job on the mileage though.
Thanks yeah those tiny KW's are not made with the driver in mind. Volvo VN 780 is like a Cadillac. Comfortable and roomy.
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you either gun it and get in or slow down and wait. travelling at same speed is the worst.
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Reads like OP tried to squeeze in front of a high mass high momentum vehicle. Bad idea.

Rear of RX-8 aligned with front of tractor while merging?

It feels like the tractor driver didn't want the OP to cut in, so he accelerated to close the gap, but you squeezed in anyway and his momentum was already too great for him to slow down in time.

Technically, it reads like the OPs fault since he was merging, but who knows what'll happen.

The tractor driver may have been a douche, but OP easily could have avoided that by just letting him pass.

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Originally Posted by RIWWP
100% agree. I have the same opinion on the OP's actions you do.

I just habitually oppose contradiction, illogical, and irrational sides of any argument, separate from my own opinion on the matter It's called 'a failing' by many, including my wife, though I disagree with that too
"It's like looking in a mirror but...... not"

(10 points if you know the movie) yeah I'm the same way and my wife says the same thing )
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O wowwwww. The way I was taught to drive is to use an on ramp as a way of accelerating to enter into the flow of traffic. That's exactly what I did. I have NEVER been a type of driver to try to do anything dangerous or risky. If this turns up being my fault? So be it. Live and learn. But the guy sitting here calling me an "*******" and "getting what I deserved"? Jesus dude really? I saw an entry point that was SAFE. I am VERY patient if that keeps me from getting in a wreck. While on the on ramp, I saw WIDE OPEN space in front of the truck and enough of the on ramp to do it with. And be SAFE. Key word safe. Obviously, this didn't end how I wanted to at all, but praise god your not the person controlling how this situation ends. Your just pissed off about past experiences, which I understand. But no need to sit here and say things like that out of pure anger. Chilllllllll
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OP dont let someones post get under your skin dude. you know what happened. no need to justify yourself in any way.
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Lmao at that pic.

I have to say as a truck driver I have done that, sped up to block people from cutting me off. More to protect their stupidity though not because of anger. I'd rather have them pissed and driving than dead and stuck on my grill. Goes for roadwork too when we lose a lane. I'll block the idiots who try to squeeze by everyone and get in at the last second. For both of our safety. (Yours more than mine)
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If it was safe and wide open how'd you get a truck stuffed in your trunk?
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Max,

I think the reality of what we are saying is: "You believed it to be safe, and the fact that a collision occurred at all proves it wasn't"

Most of us aren't condemning you for it, just noting that you had far more control over the situation than the truck did, as the only stat that the truck outperforms you in is "crushing weight". You made a judgement call you believed to be fine, and it turned out that it wasn't. EVEN IF you were actually legally correct and "in the right", you had the ability to prevent the accident but didn't exercise that (and I'm not saying this was intentional). It's a byproduct of being a young driver.

For example, if someone crosses the yellow line and comes into my lane head on, I would be entirely legally "right" to let them hit me. The other guy is at fault, he needs to be on his side.

But that really isn't the best choice, is it?

That is all we are saying here.
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Originally Posted by RWD+LSD=Zoom
OP dont let someones post get under your skin dude. you know what happened. no need to justify yourself in any way.
O he's not. Just don't see the reason for it.
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^ i agree he is bashing you really for no reason, because no one on this forum was there. basically no one really knows exactly how it happened except for the OP and the truck driver. either way dynamho said it best.
Originally Posted by dynamho

The tractor driver may have been a douche, but OP easily could have avoided that by just letting him pass.
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RIWWP, I understand EXACTLY what you are saying haha. And like I said, if this ends up with being my fault so be it.
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I didn't think blazen was really attacking. Just calling it like it is. He might have been a little harsh worded, but i'm pretty sure he's not calling you out to a fight in the playground after school.

He's a truck driver by trade and sees this far more often than the rest of us. I think it's good to have a truck driver's POV on this

I'm glad you're ok with it being found your fault, and hopefully you see how this could have been avoided. We'd hate to see what could have been. I've seen a few semi on car accidents. 99% of the time the truck driver walked away. The other cars were unidentifiable.
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I'm not bashing him. I'm saying things crudely because a. I see people driving like that way too often b. People shouldn't take risks like that, with a truck especially c. Hoping OP will remember it next time he is in that situation and d. No other poor RX-8 gets hurt like that.

I didn't mean to offend OP just a "what we're you thinking!" Type deal.
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Exactly fuztupnz.
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No offense taken. haha. Obviously, I have been driving like an old lady since the accident. But i'm still going to stand by my point of view. I understand and accept other peoples ideas and inputs and that was partially the intent of putting it on here. Just glad to still have my baby even with a busted up *** and me still be alive to see another day! haha.

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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Most of us aren't condemning you for it, just noting that you had far more control over the situation than the truck did
Perfectly put.
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Originally Posted by max_stuermer
Just glad to still have my baby even with a busted up *** and me still be alive to see another day!
I'm glad that you only just have that 'ding' for tangling with something that could potentially be about 80,000 lbs.
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I was amazed at that too! I had a pick up truck next to me once on I-77, he broke traction on the rear on ice, slid into my drive wheels (rear tires on tractor) and got launched across 3 lanes into the median. Was called a "non avoidable accident" for me because I couldn't do anything about it. Not even put on my record. But that pick up got the energy transferred from my rig and shot away like a bullet.
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Originally Posted by blazenblue63
While I respect MS addict's style, Defensive driving is certainly good in a truck, I am doing a job hauling 40 tons of steel down the road. I need to make my appointments within my 11/14 hour laws. You don't have to respect me but respect the damage my vehicle can do to you. Don't drive next to a truck at the same speed, don't cut a truck off. We WILL win in a collision. I'll walk away 99/100 times. You won't.
this is pretty much what people need to keep in mind.
some times common sense supersedes law.
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Well the obvious solution for safety is to have everyone driving the same size vehicles! 18 wheelers for all!

Don't pay attention to me, as I am merely blowing off steam from seeing a QX56 and a Navigator suddenly park on each side of me in the parking lot as I was making my way out. These cars are ridiculous with their waistlines taller than my car! (especially the QX56!)

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Originally Posted by blazenblue63
But that pick up got the energy transferred from my rig and shot away like a bullet.
Scary stuff. Yet I can't believe how many idiots play hotshot with a tractor trailer, or the clueless that ride alongside the truck at the speed limit, more so on the outside of a turn.
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Originally Posted by dynamho
or the clueless that ride alongside the truck at the speed limit, more so on the outside of a turn.
This is part of the root of why I drive faster than the cars around me. I simply can not stand driving the same speed as someone else. It just feels like I'm playing a game with timing and chance, like a clock ticking in my head of "how long until they forget I'm there..." I think of it like "stagnant water drifting along". I hate it, I fear it.

And if I'm not traveling the same speed as everyone else, people are either "approaching" my relative position from the front or the back, and I can watch, monitor, and react far far more easily and readily when they are entering my zone from the front. When it's from the rear, I have to drive in my mirrors, and that is supremely uncomfortable.


Some people call me 'aggressive', though I vastly prefer 'assertive'. I have no anger or hostility in my driving, I yield to just about anything. Let them do what they want and I will then take my action in a different lane. If I'm going to do something, I commit to doing it, I don't waffle around with indecision or inattention. If it was wrong, I change my mind when it is safe to do so.



Sorry


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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Some people call me 'aggressive', though I vastly prefer 'assertive'. I have no anger or hostility in my driving, I yield to just about anything. Let them do what they want and I will then take my action in a different lane. If I'm going to do something, I commit to doing it, I don't waffle around with indecision or inattention. If it was wrong, I change my mind when it is safe to do so.
I concur with your sentiments. Although I regularly yell at other drivers for cathartic effect "DRIVE LIKE YOU HAVE A PURPOSE!".


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