Rant about the RX-8
08-30-2008, 03:35 PM
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i think most of you speed junkies are just that.. dangerously addicted to something that will never satisfy you until you either die in a horrible accident or kill yourself over depression.
When does it end? When will you be satisfied? Will you ever be happy with what you have or will you turn into an old man like sw**pe who sits and criticises others all day long because he has nothing to find joy in anymore in his car so he figures to make others miserable
( ain't working by the way so go home little boy and play with your sister)
Be happy with what you have.. some of us are struggling just to even get one of these awesome machines..
When does it end? When will you be satisfied? Will you ever be happy with what you have or will you turn into an old man like sw**pe who sits and criticises others all day long because he has nothing to find joy in anymore in his car so he figures to make others miserable
( ain't working by the way so go home little boy and play with your sister)Be happy with what you have.. some of us are struggling just to even get one of these awesome machines..
my little sister has an rx8 also..
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08-30-2008, 05:38 PM
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You guys confuse power with torque.
An 8 daily driving in the city is WORSE than driving a Z or G35 whatever.
For one, i wont want to be revving to the sky just to keep up with traffic.
An 8 daily driving in the city is WORSE than driving a Z or G35 whatever.
For one, i wont want to be revving to the sky just to keep up with traffic.
08-30-2008, 05:57 PM
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I have opposite experience. Rx8 has more power than I know what to do with. All those other driver on the street cannot anticipate a sudden burst of acceleration from another vehicle, especially when changing lane. Any more power, and the rx8 and I would have been toast long ago.
Rx8 just not for all you "hardcore" type, whatever those people are into.
Rx8 just not for all you "hardcore" type, whatever those people are into.
08-30-2008, 05:58 PM
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^ you must've not driven the rx-8 from your post.
Anyhoo, it's always greener at the other side of the fence. Maybe there's just more poo there.
OP, get the car you want. Bye bye now.
Anyhoo, it's always greener at the other side of the fence. Maybe there's just more poo there.
OP, get the car you want. Bye bye now.
08-30-2008, 07:27 PM
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Which is why i made the post i made. Fast pace traffic and you're gonna have to beat the **** out of the 8. With like 150ft lbs of torque, is self explanatory.
08-30-2008, 07:33 PM
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I don't have an 8, but an integra type-r with a whopping 130 lb-ft. I have never had to beat the **** out of it to keep up with traffic. I don't know, maybe your traffic is comprised exclusively of AMGs and Lamborghinis.
08-30-2008, 07:57 PM
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OP:
You bought the wrong car. Sorry! The RX-8 has plenty of power for daily driving, even for sporty driving for that matter. Even my 2.7 liter Charger I drive for work with a whopping 170hp can keep up in traffic without wringing the hell out of it.
Maybe you're engine is busted?
08-30-2008, 07:58 PM
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I got tired of 386 to the wheels. A friend of mine got tired with 600awhp in his 3000GT (running two 16G turbos from an Evo III) and is now doing a 1000awhp build using two stock turbos from a diesel Dodge Ram (HX35). When you can annihilate Evo's and 350Z's you don't even bother flooring it unless it's a 911 Turbo or a Z06. Same old ****.
As for a 13B REW (or RE, I recommend the RE as the mounting will be easier)... you better figure out how to mate the an Rx-8 dash harness and interior wiring/switches with a Haltech E8 flying lead engine harness, then do a throttle cable and return fuel system conversion, then fabricate engine mounts, then figure out how to put an FD shifter into the stock Rx-8 location... the list goes on...
As for a 13B REW (or RE, I recommend the RE as the mounting will be easier)... you better figure out how to mate the an Rx-8 dash harness and interior wiring/switches with a Haltech E8 flying lead engine harness, then do a throttle cable and return fuel system conversion, then fabricate engine mounts, then figure out how to put an FD shifter into the stock Rx-8 location... the list goes on...
After doing numerous honda swaps, a miata 1.8 conversion, multiple BMW swaps, turbo installations, and megasquirt installs.... I think I won't have too much a problem converting an RX-8 to a turbo drivetrain. Plus, it will probably help that I know how to weld and do metal fabricating. Wiring comes pretty easy for me too.
Shoot, maybe if I do this, others might want to try the same path also. I will be shure to do a write-up, and also may be able to do it for other RX-8 owners. I really do agree that the RX-8 is a great car ( I have two young kids that ride in the back), it's east to drive, and feels much more luxurious than an S2000. I just think it needs a more powerful rotary to keep up with todays sports cars. That's all.
08-30-2008, 08:01 PM
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He's a tard. I've never had to go beyond 4K to keep up with traffic. I often find myself shifting below 3K so I don't jump out in front.
OP:
You bought the wrong car. Sorry! The RX-8 has plenty of power for daily driving, even for sporty driving for that matter. Even my 2.7 liter Charger I drive for work with a whopping 170hp can keep up in traffic without wringing the hell out of it.
Maybe you're engine is busted?
OP:
You bought the wrong car. Sorry! The RX-8 has plenty of power for daily driving, even for sporty driving for that matter. Even my 2.7 liter Charger I drive for work with a whopping 170hp can keep up in traffic without wringing the hell out of it.
Maybe you're engine is busted?
HEHE, it has 3,000 miles on it from the new warranty. It feels a tad bit better than the original engine.
Oh, and as for traffic, it will definately keep up, but it just does'nt go much faster when I give it 3/4 more throttle than that.
08-30-2008, 08:28 PM
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After doing numerous honda swaps, a miata 1.8 conversion, multiple BMW swaps, turbo installations, and megasquirt installs.... I think I won't have too much a problem converting an RX-8 to a turbo drivetrain. Plus, it will probably help that I know how to weld and do metal fabricating. Wiring comes pretty easy for me too.
Shoot, maybe if I do this, others might want to try the same path also. I will be shure to do a write-up, and also may be able to do it for other RX-8 owners. I really do agree that the RX-8 is a great car ( I have two young kids that ride in the back), it's east to drive, and feels much more luxurious than an S2000. I just think it needs a more powerful rotary to keep up with todays sports cars. That's all.
Shoot, maybe if I do this, others might want to try the same path also. I will be shure to do a write-up, and also may be able to do it for other RX-8 owners. I really do agree that the RX-8 is a great car ( I have two young kids that ride in the back), it's east to drive, and feels much more luxurious than an S2000. I just think it needs a more powerful rotary to keep up with todays sports cars. That's all.
convert the rx8 to a turbo. no one has ever thought of that!
beers
08-30-2008, 09:55 PM
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After doing numerous honda swaps, a miata 1.8 conversion, multiple BMW swaps, turbo installations, and megasquirt installs.... I think I won't have too much a problem converting an RX-8 to a turbo drivetrain. Plus, it will probably help that I know how to weld and do metal fabricating. Wiring comes pretty easy for me too.
Shoot, maybe if I do this, others might want to try the same path also. I will be shure to do a write-up, and also may be able to do it for other RX-8 owners. I really do agree that the RX-8 is a great car ( I have two young kids that ride in the back), it's east to drive, and feels much more luxurious than an S2000. I just think it needs a more powerful rotary to keep up with todays sports cars. That's all.
Shoot, maybe if I do this, others might want to try the same path also. I will be shure to do a write-up, and also may be able to do it for other RX-8 owners. I really do agree that the RX-8 is a great car ( I have two young kids that ride in the back), it's east to drive, and feels much more luxurious than an S2000. I just think it needs a more powerful rotary to keep up with todays sports cars. That's all.
You realize there are "lots" of FI 8's on this forum, right?
08-31-2008, 01:45 AM
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In short, you made a mistake buying the 8. You're never going to be satisfied with it. The 8 is one of the slowest cars I've owned, but it's also one of the most fun to drive on the street or the track.
Good luck with your next car. You're going to be hard pressed to find another car with as much balance and poise.
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08-31-2008, 06:58 AM
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How many of you are actually tired of the performance of your stock or mildly modded RX8?
....My main rant here is about how since the release of the RX-8 5-years ago, that mazda has released 2 other 4-door models that have much more useable power and greatly out accelerate their "sports" car. Then, we get a revised version update after 5 years, and the only car it MIGHT out accelerate is an MX-5 and an RSX-S.
....I have yet to see any spy shots of test beds, or anything saying that we are getting anything more than a hydro/petrol RX model to improve mileage. That's nice and all, but it's also weak.
....but i want that kind of technology fresh, and well, and sitting in my garage. it doesn't matter to me if it costs $38,000-$43,000 and gets 15 miles per gallon ( I only get 16-17.8 now anyways), i just am tired of waiting, and tired of hoping that there is more to come.
END RANT!
....My main rant here is about how since the release of the RX-8 5-years ago, that mazda has released 2 other 4-door models that have much more useable power and greatly out accelerate their "sports" car. Then, we get a revised version update after 5 years, and the only car it MIGHT out accelerate is an MX-5 and an RSX-S.
....I have yet to see any spy shots of test beds, or anything saying that we are getting anything more than a hydro/petrol RX model to improve mileage. That's nice and all, but it's also weak.
....but i want that kind of technology fresh, and well, and sitting in my garage. it doesn't matter to me if it costs $38,000-$43,000 and gets 15 miles per gallon ( I only get 16-17.8 now anyways), i just am tired of waiting, and tired of hoping that there is more to come.
END RANT!
The Evolve was out and about years before the 8, but that was a brand new car. Currently, I'm undecided as to whether Mazda is going to surprise us in '10, '11, or '12 (yawn by then) with a new car (engine really) sight unseen, or that the world at large has killed or at least indefinitely delayed any new rotary investment or a new rotary car for the time being.
The last real gas crisis in the '70s killed off Mazda as a multi-rotary car marque. Back then there were sedans, station wagons, sports cars. How hard is it to kill the last remaining rotary? Mazda will always say never...it's in our DNA, etc....but it's the consumer and gas prices that rule that decision really.
And yea the power thing. I know it's been beaten to death in this forum, but facts is facts, past 3rd the NA car is a dud. There I said it, and it is so true. Once in 4th I'm forced to wave on so many cars - sadly it's just a fact of life. They simply punch it an go...I've already floored it and am waiting for some speed to gather.
Love the RX-8 to death for what it is, but say, have you seen the pics & writeups about the possible R3 turbo 4 cyl based on the R8 to replace the TT
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/29/r...to-replace-tt/ <---yummie
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08-31-2008, 01:44 PM
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While I have a pretty modded RX8, my last competitive race on a road course I was much faster in lap times than a S2000, and also seconds faster than a 350z and even a 2003 Cobra Terminator. Fact is, power and performance do not mean anything if you can't drive it.
Rants like this are old and just shows a lack of understanding as to the whole picture of performance. The RX8 is not the fastest car, but complaining cause it won't "out accelerate" other vehicles in it's price range is pretty short sighted.
Rants like this are old and just shows a lack of understanding as to the whole picture of performance. The RX8 is not the fastest car, but complaining cause it won't "out accelerate" other vehicles in it's price range is pretty short sighted.
08-31-2008, 02:43 PM
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I must say though. While there is plenty of power for me being that I'm 18 and still in highschool (dont need trouble now do we?) and the handling makes me smile every time I see a turn that seys "25" and continue to go 60 the transmission is absolute trash. I cant believe that mazda would do this to me haha.
08-31-2008, 02:57 PM
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The transmission is trash? It's one of the best feeling transmissions I've ever used...
well-oiled bolt-action rifle comes to mind...
RenesisX-8: What are you putting megasquirts into?
I'm one of the 2 ms2/extra developers, so always interested in finding out what people are doing with the MS!
Ken
well-oiled bolt-action rifle comes to mind...
RenesisX-8: What are you putting megasquirts into?
I'm one of the 2 ms2/extra developers, so always interested in finding out what people are doing with the MS!
Ken
08-31-2008, 03:59 PM
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While I have a pretty modded RX8, my last competitive race on a road course I was much faster in lap times than a S2000, and also seconds faster than a 350z and even a 2003 Cobra Terminator. Fact is, power and performance do not mean anything if you can't drive it.
Rants like this are old and just shows a lack of understanding as to the whole picture of performance. The RX8 is not the fastest car, but complaining cause it won't "out accelerate" other vehicles in it's price range is pretty short sighted.
Rants like this are old and just shows a lack of understanding as to the whole picture of performance. The RX8 is not the fastest car, but complaining cause it won't "out accelerate" other vehicles in it's price range is pretty short sighted.
You're right if you can't drive up to the car's capability, power won't help you. But if you can use power... and there is none to be had, it tends to get a bit boring sitting there, foot on the floorboards - ergo, the rant IMHO.
In my run groups, (mostly) people know how to drive ok....but with the range still I am able to pass some machines I really shouldn't, mostly as I come out of the twisties much faster and on their tail going onto a straight - so much fun
On the other hand the cars that are flying by (on the straights) are typically GT2s, GT3s, Cayman S, and 911 Turbos, and various stripped out Club racer BMWs. Of course they are faster, typically more expensive, but that's the point - I want it all - I want more power please - and I want rotary power, not piston power.
I agree with the OP that it's time we had that performance and yea it is old.
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08-31-2008, 04:05 PM
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I am still happy with the same car I bought 4 years ago. Why would I not be? I was the one that test drove it. I was the one that made the decision to plunk down the cash. I knew what I was getting and I got what I knew. Would I like more power? Sure. Can I buy more power? Yep. Have I done so? Nope. I love the car I bought.... on purpose.