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Old 05-13-2005, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by snap-on
That is curious..the switch in the third picture looks like the Mz3 hid adjustment.
Yeah--curious. It clearly shows the position of the switch in the far left slot where the RX-8 has a blank (at least in mine). Also, step #9 instructs you to set the switch to the 0 position. (I guess you can assume the switch is set to zero since it doesn't exist. )

Hmmmmmm. Looks like the tech writers may have screwed up on this one.
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I now see the film on my HID's also. And actually its really bad. I don't have the switch that was mentioned in the post above either...

I am calling my dealer for HID replacement, rust on the rotors, squeaking brakes....and some interior gripes. They are going to hate me.
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Originally Posted by RotaryIT
I now see the film on my HID's also. And actually its really bad. I don't have the switch that was mentioned in the post above either...

I am calling my dealer for HID replacement, rust on the rotors, squeaking brakes....and some interior gripes. They are going to hate me.
Remember, they get paid by Mazda for the warranty work, so it's money in their pockets they would not otherwise have if you weren't bugging them. So, if they display any hate, take your business elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by slllygrl10
That is what they did to mine when they replaced the headlight lenses they told me that there is no way to align it and I have base model I'm surprise even with the Xenon lights are having problems. I took it back again to have them align it its better but its like cm's off which is no big deal when I have time I'll do it myself. After they replaced my headlight lenses the second time I took it there they voided my lighting system lol since they found out I have aftermarket HID's but oh well they replaced my headlight lenses yay!!
well the left light got replaced bc of an accident i got into...ill have to show you what the lights are doing in a picture...
Originally Posted by RotaryIT
I now see the film on my HID's also. And actually its really bad. I don't have the switch that was mentioned in the post above either...i dont think my HIDs are not level, its just that the cutoff on top of the beam is curved with the open end facing up (instead of a straight line all the way across)

I am calling my dealer for HID replacement, rust on the rotors, squeaking brakes....and some interior gripes. They are going to hate me.
I can really see a difference in the new housing vs the old one...u can see the projector clearly in the new one. the old one all u see is a blue cloud...

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Old 05-14-2005, 03:02 PM
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Well my new lenses were ordered and are now in. I'm scheduled to have them replaced next Wednesday. I am hoping they don't screw up the aim, because I will not be happy. I don't understand how that can be, if they are self leveling they should fall into place.
Old 05-14-2005, 03:26 PM
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I'm so stinkin' lazy. I have the film, but have not gone to complain yet...
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Lenses (HID) were replaced last Wednesday and they look much better. As for the aim, I didn't notice any difference. I saw the headlights prior and they are one complete assembly, not just the lenses. There is no aiming involved per the service tech, they are completed at the factory and are self leveling. Well, we'll wait and see how these hold up.
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Originally Posted by salituro64
There is no aiming involved per the service tech, they are completed at the factory and are self leveling.
I suspect what the tech meant was that he didn't want to bother with checking/setting the aim of the headlights. See shop manual for the headlight aiming procedure. (Tried to upload the pages but received a server error so you'll have to check the Body section of the shop manual if you have one.) Suffice to say, there definitely is an aiming procedure.
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Can someone post a pic of this "film"?
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You mean a video?

Originally Posted by khtm
Can someone post a pic of this "film"?
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Re: new headlights, no more film...

Let's see, girlfriend bought a new bra and you bought a new digital camera? :D

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Old 05-23-2005, 11:40 AM
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and now the 'aim' is off... :D
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Anybody has a TSB for this?

Mazda supposedly is "aware" of this issue with early cars (mine was one of the first ones... July'03) but I am sure the dealer will tell me there is "nothing wrong with it"

I have the film and it's pretty "foggy" "hazy" inside.

My car has 41K miles... Will they still cover this? I am the second owner BTW...

Anybody has an update list of TSBs"

Thanks
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Old 05-24-2005, 08:47 PM
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went in to dealer today.....thought they wud just replace the headlight lenses but they installed brand new headlights instead. no oil film. Cool :p
Old 05-25-2005, 12:37 AM
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just found out my headlights are not aiming properly after driving in the night. they seem to be pointing downward compared to previous ones and i can clearly see the separation where the lights end on the road. will bring it in to the same dealer tomorrow hopefully they can be aligned back properly. ughh
Old 05-25-2005, 11:01 AM
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yeah I had my HIDs replaced last week, I drove at night for the first time just the other day and the right beam is practically aimed at the ground, even when using the high beams the right side is dark, its maddening
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draco...has the problem been fixed ?
Old 05-26-2005, 03:46 PM
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going in today, to see if they'll fix this...I'm approaching 15k miles...
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Originally Posted by Go48
Here are the pages of the shop manual that deal with aiming the HL's. The reference to the HL Leveling Switch is a bit curious, because they are apparently referring to the dashboard light dimming switch (see the page identifying this switch).

Good luck!
These look like adjustments related to halogen bulbs, not the Xenon HID.
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Mt Lights are definately not as accurate as before the Lens replacment (Stup *** Techs).

How do they adjust? Every thing I read on this forum appears to speak of the halogen bulbs not the HID.

This is how they look now. Is this normal? Maybe I just never noticed because I wasn't analyzing them like no.

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Old 05-31-2005, 10:07 AM
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i have never replaced my HIDs and they look just like that salituro. the left side should be a bit lower to keep the bright light out of oncoming driver's eyes.
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That is the correct pattern for the HID's. you can verify that this pattern is thrown by each light individually by putting something in front of one headlight at night. both headlights will throw this pattern, usually there is a little squarish area in the center of the z where one headlight is full brightness and the other is in shadow, kinda like this: (the w is the partially bright area, x is very dim. this is caused by the overlap of the two headlight patterns.

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Old 06-01-2005, 06:52 AM
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Thanks guys. So I guess I am OK. I just thought that previously the cutoff of the beam was further out. About how far in front would you say the bright cutoff is? To me, mine look like they are 25-30 feet, but this could be a bad guess. Also, when my high beams are on, should I still notice that shadow section between the HID and the high beams or should it then become full.

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my headlights have some white film on the outside that seems to scrape off with my fingernail... is this the film everyone is talking about??
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finally got my headlights aligned rite today. dealer had a hard time figuring out why my rite headlight still aimed low after replacing it twice so they had to call MNA to get the guidance. i was told auto-leveling wont work on first replacement so they needed to reset the auto-leveling computer


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