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Texas 8 04-18-2005 11:35 AM

New headlights, no more film!
 
Just got back from the dealer after getting new R and L headlight assemblies installed at no charge. Yay!! No more nasty film. Hopefully these new ones will not develop the same condition. Neither the service manager nor the tech could positively identify the origins of the "goo". I'm thinking something to do with the manufacturing process. Oh well, I'm happy now.

For those of you with the same problem, take it to your dealer and have them replaced. It didn't take too much effort to have them cover it. All I did was ask. I have 13,300 mi and have owned her since Feb. '04 so, it was outside the 12,000 mi/12 month window. But, they did it anyway.

On a side note, if you have the standard headlights, asking them to buy you the HID's instead won't produce real positive results. I tried:)

salituro64 04-18-2005 07:47 PM

I was in today for the N Flash and the headlight film. They looked and then ordered me new ones. I read somewhere that they changed the manufacturer they were using.

automaton 04-18-2005 10:08 PM

What exactly is this "film" you speak of?

My headlights ('05 with 5500miles) has a very, very slight "haze" to the lights, is that what you mean?

Just asking so I know what to look for.

silver1_rx8 04-18-2005 10:36 PM

It looks like moisture build up on the inside of the headlight lens that never goes away! I took my car to my dealership and they replaced them as well. No questions asked, they said it's under warranty and did it.

truemagellen 04-19-2005 12:49 AM

this is for older 04 builds...I'm not sure if I have this...it looks like I have dust on mine 24/7 is that it? mine is a May 2003 build, 2nd boat

shaolin 04-19-2005 01:37 AM

I just turned over 13K miles....I've had this film on mine, but didn't know I could have it replaced...will they still do it?

Rhawb 04-19-2005 01:45 AM

I think I may have it, but I'm afraid of screwing up the alignment of my headlights, so I think I'd rather just live with it. I can't imagine them getting it exactly right and if they didn't, it would drive me absolutely insane.

markd 04-19-2005 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Texas 8
Just got back from the dealer after getting new R and L headlight assemblies installed at no charge. Yay!! No more nasty film. Hopefully these new ones will not develop the same condition. Neither the service manager nor the tech could positively identify the origins of the "goo". I'm thinking something to do with the manufacturing process. Oh well, I'm happy now.

For those of you with the same problem, take it to your dealer and have them replaced. It didn't take too much effort to have them cover it. All I did was ask. I have 13,300 mi and have owned her since Feb. '04 so, it was outside the 12,000 mi/12 month window. But, they did it anyway.

On a side note, if you have the standard headlights, asking them to buy you the HID's instead won't produce real positive results. I tried:)

Wait, 12,000mi/12 month--What part of the warranty are you referring to? I thought our warranties were 50,000 mi/5 years?

salituro64 04-19-2005 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by automaton
What exactly is this "film" you speak of?

My headlights ('05 with 5500miles) has a very, very slight "haze" to the lights, is that what you mean?

Just asking so I know what to look for.

To me it looks like moisture, or an oil film. You'll notice it more at night when the lights are on. I think the composition of the plastic is being affected by the heat of the HID lights. Hopefully it's true that they replaced the supplier.

czr 04-19-2005 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by markd
Wait, 12,000mi/12 month--What part of the warranty are you referring to? I thought our warranties were 50,000 mi/5 years?

48 months - 50k miles

The dealer knows of this problem on earlier builds and replaces it no questions asked. Just make sure it's film inside the headlights and it does look like haze. Had mine changed last year. No problems so far.

slllygrl10 04-19-2005 07:41 AM

I have 8k miles on mine and I have aftermarket hid's will they replace it? after all they aligned it for me with the hid's.... hmmmm...

slllygrl10 04-19-2005 07:42 AM

Is this on the TSB? Im too lazy to look

Texas 8 04-19-2005 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by markd
Wait, 12,000mi/12 month--What part of the warranty are you referring to? I thought our warranties were 50,000 mi/5 years?

Our warranty is actually 48 month/50,000 miles. What I was referring to was the 12 month/12,000 miles "service adjustment" period. What it basically says is within the first 12 months/12,000 miles the dealer will make any repairs or replacements not normally associated with warranty-type issues. Such as alignment, headlights, etc... Basically, for the first 12 months you're covered against manufacturing defects, which is what this headlight issue falls into. I also had my entire drivers seat replaced within the first year due to the mounting hardware always coming loose. Normally that would be considered "wear and tear" but, within the first 12 months it is covered under the "service adjustment".

If you look on page #9 of your warranty information supplental booklet that accompanied the owners manual it will give a description of what I am talking about.

Hope it helps.

Texas 8 04-19-2005 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by slllygrl10
Is this on the TSB? Im too lazy to look

Not that I'm aware of. Complain enough and they should take care of it.

Straight8 04-19-2005 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Rhawb
I think I may have it, but I'm afraid of screwing up the alignment of my headlights, so I think I'd rather just live with it. I can't imagine them getting it exactly right and if they didn't, it would drive me absolutely insane.

lmao...I had my headlight assemblies replaced about 2 months ago for the film. The first time I drove at night I could barely see 5 feet in front of me. I took it in and they adjusted the lights. Next time I drove at night I could hunt squirel from either side of my car. I was lighting up road signs from a half mile away. I've been tweaking them off and on my own now and just about have them back to the way they were.

salituro64 04-19-2005 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by truemagellen
this is for older 04 builds...I'm not sure if I have this...it looks like I have dust on mine 24/7 is that it? mine is a May 2003 build, 2nd boat

Mine is 9 or 11/2003, I can't remember and mine has the film. So May 2003 may have it also.

cas2themoe 04-19-2005 11:05 PM

Just got mine replaced last week. Look fine so far

salituro64 04-21-2005 07:00 AM

I see that some people claim their headlights were not aimed properly after the lenses were replaced. Does this pertain to HID or the standard lights? I thought the HID are self leveling, therefore the adjustment corrects itself and aiming is not necessary.

truemagellen 04-21-2005 10:53 AM

ok I definitely see the film...it looks more like a poorly formed piece not a film...but hey I'm bringing it in...will be nice to have no more dings in the headlight casing :)

I'll complete that and painting the rotors :) all on a free rental car :D

Straight8 04-21-2005 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by salituro64
I see that some people claim their headlights were not aimed properly after the lenses were replaced. Does this pertain to HID or the standard lights? I thought the HID are self leveling, therefore the adjustment corrects itself and aiming is not necessary.

HIDs in my case. The lights still auto-level but if your aim is off to begin with then you have poorly aimed, self leveling lights :)

RodsterinFL 04-21-2005 03:13 PM

hmm Great post

I took mine in to the dealer in November 04 to have them do something about the headlights and nothing was done. THey just notated it. Also, how can you make the headlights adjust? I would like to see it.

takahashi j 05-13-2005 03:09 AM

I just got my car back from the repair shop and they cant seem to aim the HIDs correctly...im frustrated with them already but I was wondering if anybody had the shop manual sheet where it tells you how to DIY...the right HID is still stock by the left HID is new and has a weird curve in the beam...the curve looks like a letter C turned on its side...

slllygrl10 05-13-2005 05:08 AM

That is what they did to mine when they replaced the headlight lenses they told me that there is no way to align it and I have base model I'm surprise even with the Xenon lights are having problems. I took it back again to have them align it its better but its like cm's off which is no big deal when I have time I'll do it myself. After they replaced my headlight lenses the second time I took it there they voided my lighting system lol since they found out I have aftermarket HID's but oh well they replaced my headlight lenses yay!!

Go48 05-13-2005 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by takahashi j
I just got my car back from the repair shop and they cant seem to aim the HIDs correctly...im frustrated with them already but I was wondering if anybody had the shop manual sheet where it tells you how to DIY...the right HID is still stock by the left HID is new and has a weird curve in the beam...the curve looks like a letter C turned on its side...

Here are the pages of the shop manual that deal with aiming the HL's. The reference to the HL Leveling Switch is a bit curious, because they are apparently referring to the dashboard light dimming switch (see the page identifying this switch). :confused:

Good luck!

snap-on 05-13-2005 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Go48
Here are the pages of the shop manual that deal with aiming the HL's. The reference to the HL Leveling Switch is a bit curious, because they are apparently referring to the dashboard light dimming switch (see the page identifying this switch). :confused:

Good luck!


That is curious..the switch in the third picture looks like the Mz3 hid adjustment.


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