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Old 04-14-2009, 05:24 PM
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04' 130,000 rolled today. No replace... This thread scares me lol
Wow! That's awesome... '06 with 17,500 right now. (bought it with 13,459 on the odometer)
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I linked this thread to a thread by a guy owning an 07' 6 speed with 30k on the odometer. He premixed too.


Not all failing engines are obvious and since mostly enthusiasts (i.e. people who pay attention to their cars) visit this site, how many could be roaming the streets on failing engines?

My first engine was failing but most people would not have noticed the drop off in power or hesitation if they never red lined it. My car would drive normally until you really revved it up.
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51k - original engine - no problems
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I dropped off my car at the Dealer on Thursday.. then ran compression tests over the weekend and the Tech called saying that the engine was loosing compression. He said he was waiting to hear back from "Mazda" on what they wanted him to do with this...

Is it always a NEW ENGINE that is the fix to this problem? Or, are there other alternatives? I am waiting to hear back from them today on what exactly they will be doing to my vehicle.

And... if they go ahead with a new engine, how long should I expect my car to be at the dealer? I know some of you all have been lucky and are in/out within 3-5 days... others taking a few weeks. Just wondering what is a normal waiting period.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by clmantis21
I dropped off my car at the Dealer on Thursday.. then ran compression tests over the weekend and the Tech called saying that the engine was loosing compression. He said he was waiting to hear back from "Mazda" on what they wanted him to do with this...

Is it always a NEW ENGINE that is the fix to this problem? Or, are there other alternatives? I am waiting to hear back from them today on what exactly they will be doing to my vehicle.

And... if they go ahead with a new engine, how long should I expect my car to be at the dealer? I know some of you all have been lucky and are in/out within 3-5 days... others taking a few weeks. Just wondering what is a normal waiting period.

Thanks
You would need to tear down the engine and rebuild it, replacing/repairing whatever is broken. Even it's just the seals needing to be replaced, they still need to pull the engine and open it up etc. It's basically what they do anyways. The engines are sent off to a reman facility and then are sent out to be put in 8's that need a replacement. So it's effectively the same thing, just they dont have to have a trained tech at every dealership to do that service... they can send it off to the reman facility instead, where they can use fewer people to do it all.
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Originally Posted by cfm251
04 AT 72,XXX moments from death....
confirmed death....RIP

plus Mazda wants me to provide receipts for oil changes in order to replace it....
I have no idea where they are....
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Originally Posted by cfm251
confirmed death....RIP

plus Mazda wants me to provide receipts for oil changes in order to replace it....
I have no idea where they are....
What?!? Thats BS! Ask them to show you on blk/white where it says that you must provide proof of oil changes for them to honor your warranty (that you paid for... since it is included in the price of the car when you buy it).

Also... you can suggest that you changed the oil yourself... but that will probably spark new questions for them.
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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
I know there was a similar thread a while back, but I figured we should see how things have changed since then.

Wondering how many people have new engines, what year, and what mileage. If you had to get a new engine, please post how many miles you had on the old engine(s).
04 MT with 66K Original Engine
Old 04-15-2009, 12:35 PM
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04 91K miles all original. only thing done at the dealer is several tailights and sun visors and gas caps. Needs a 02 sensor right now. Keep getting a intermittent cel for it.
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I purchased my 04 back in 2006 with around 12,000 miles.
haven't had any major problems.

People (in general) tend to complain louder than they compliment.
I know I'm guilty of that.
I just want to add my voice saying ... no new engine, no major repairs.

Here are the repairs I can remember:
-Brake shield rattle ... New shield with warranty
-New rotors ... hubs showed small signs of rust when purchased ... 4 new rotors via warranty
-Faulty gas cap didn't seal correctly ... fixed after several caps tried
-Various TSBs.

I would say that's not bad. No real repairs done.
You may argue that rotors is a major repair, but it was purely cosmetic. Nothing at all wrong with the rotors, just small rust on the hubs.
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Originally Posted by clmantis21
What?!? Thats BS! Ask them to show you on blk/white where it says that you must provide proof of oil changes for them to honor your warranty (that you paid for... since it is included in the price of the car when you buy it).

Also... you can suggest that you changed the oil yourself... but that will probably spark new questions for them.
thats what im thinking, but im guessing the want me to pull magical reciepts out of my *** since im a broker than broke college student that got this car for a steal at an auction back when even AT's were in the mid $16000, but with a buyback title. I still have SSP 77 Rotary Engine Core Warranty Extension Program, heres what I asked Mazda customer assistance,

I am going to need a new engine, my dealership is telling me I need to prove maintenance on the car, and I have found receipts for random things such as radiator fluid, air filter, spark plugs, fuel pump, lower control arm(which was recalled and still failed and fixed it out of my own pocket) etc. I cannot find receipt for the thing they are mainly interested in which is engine oil...but the oil in the car is relatively clean. I changed it about 2-3 months before the car failed and topped it of every other time I stopped for gas, I even have a bottle of oil in the car right now that it sits in the dealership. I have a few bottles remaining still in my garage and I have statements on my ATM that I vaguely recall to be oil changes because I cant seem to find the receipts I am only required to prove only three oil changes but I believe I changed the oil 5 or 6 times and payed cash some of the time. Are my statements from pepboys, autozone, walmart enough to prove oil changes? They say the amount but not the purchase item. I take very good care of my car and have plenty of other reciepts to prove it, I just cant seem to find the ones I need.

Heres what they replied,

Hello Carlos,

Thank you for your patience while I reviewed your concern.
Unfortunately, lack of maintenance can cause your repair to be denied under warranty. Since you have not had your oil changes done at the Mazda dealer, we have not proof that they have been done. The statements of charges will not be sufficient.
If you had your oil changes done at WalMart or other places, they should have some data in their records. Without the proper receipts, we would not be able to move forward.

Regards,

Bxxxxxxxxe.

seriously who the flock would change a lower cintrol arm and fuel pump but never their oil???????

Pardon for the threadjacking.....
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Sounds like BS, I had my engine replaced and I never provided any proof or was I asked for any. I have always changed my oil myself and I don't keep receipts. I have had it maintained at the dealer and a couple of random shops here and there when I was too busy to do it.

That's discrimination.
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Originally Posted by cfm251
thats what im thinking, but im guessing the want me to pull magical reciepts out of my *** since im a broker than broke college student that got this car for a steal at an auction back when even AT's were in the mid $16000, but with a buyback title. I still have SSP 77 Rotary Engine Core Warranty Extension Program, heres what I asked Mazda customer assistance,

I am going to need a new engine, my dealership is telling me I need to prove maintenance on the car, and I have found receipts for random things such as radiator fluid, air filter, spark plugs, fuel pump, lower control arm(which was recalled and still failed and fixed it out of my own pocket) etc. I cannot find receipt for the thing they are mainly interested in which is engine oil...but the oil in the car is relatively clean. I changed it about 2-3 months before the car failed and topped it of every other time I stopped for gas, I even have a bottle of oil in the car right now that it sits in the dealership. I have a few bottles remaining still in my garage and I have statements on my ATM that I vaguely recall to be oil changes because I cant seem to find the receipts I am only required to prove only three oil changes but I believe I changed the oil 5 or 6 times and payed cash some of the time. Are my statements from pepboys, autozone, walmart enough to prove oil changes? They say the amount but not the purchase item. I take very good care of my car and have plenty of other reciepts to prove it, I just cant seem to find the ones I need.

Heres what they replied,

Hello Carlos,

Thank you for your patience while I reviewed your concern.
Unfortunately, lack of maintenance can cause your repair to be denied under warranty. Since you have not had your oil changes done at the Mazda dealer, we have not proof that they have been done. The statements of charges will not be sufficient.
If you had your oil changes done at WalMart or other places, they should have some data in their records. Without the proper receipts, we would not be able to move forward.

Regards,

Bxxxxxxxxe.

seriously who the flock would change a lower cintrol arm and fuel pump but never their oil???????

Pardon for the threadjacking.....
rofl.

The person who wrote ya email probably have no idea what control arm/fuel pump is.

Well, its like that, they just replaced my engine, no questions asked.


Everyone knows Im a maintenance ***** + good dealership helps I guess.
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I am sure it helps to have a good dealership, but it also helps to have a dealership period, My local one closed, it was 3miles away, now its either a 30min trip one way or a 45min trip the other way!
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70k original engine and running very strong with no problems (knock on wood)
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04 MT 51,XXX

Had 2 flood issues but other than that not a single problem... I'm sorry to see so many issues with replacing the engines! Actually shocked to see how frequent it is!!
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Well I'm glad there isn't many engine changes after 2005, so here is to say that this engine is somewhat reliable

BTW, nice car Nuegen!
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Thanks!!! All this talk about replacing 2004 engines i'm getting nervous! lol
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Don't worry man, I have one too... anyway my warranty lasts until December of 2011, why should I care that much?
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damn... oh wait! Thats right! Mazda extended the warranty for 100K on the motor!
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i got my car back today with the engine in and new motor mounts its so much smoother and idles so much better i love it
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Originally Posted by nuegenracing
Thanks!!! All this talk about replacing 2004 engines i'm getting nervous! lol
How many miles? I got 57k on mine.
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Originally Posted by fannin522
i got my car back today with the engine in and new motor mounts its so much smoother and idles so much better i love it
how long was your car at the dealer?

Mine has been there about a week now and they said the new engine should be in on Tuesday... so I hope to get it by this time next week.
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Awesome news! 1st time I posted in here was yesterday! Car was running great... this morning I get in and the clutch slips! Sa-Weet.... New clutch on the way lol
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05 with 39,000 prob free!


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