Mazda is sure doing a good job of making the RX-8 feel cheap!
05-27-2005, 03:44 PM
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move to southern california.
there's a bunch of rx-8's here...
and even MORE corvettes by far (i'm talking all models though, not just the new one). and remember; mazda north america has a huge building in irvine (it's their headquarters i think)! i see more porsche carreras and boxters than i do rx-8s. but again, i see a lot of rx-8's which would tell you how absurd things can be.
the only reasons car X will be rare are
1) they're very expensive. in so cal you have to start hitting the 100K mark to have a rare car. it's probably different in other places, but here, it's pretty absurd how many nice cars there are. i'm not bragging; personally i think it sucks.
2) they're limited in quantity. the lotus elise i haven't seen much of. same with the FD RX-7. but that's because there's just not that many out there period. i've seen as many fd rx-7's in the past few months as i have lambourghinis!
3) they're just not that good. ie the car no one wants are relatively rare. it might be because of the looks, reliabiity, or performance.
so basically for the rx-8 to be rare it'd have to be very expensive (which means you probably can't afford it), in limited quantity (which means it'd also be more expensive than it should be, plus there'd be a waiting list, plus it'd be harder to service), or just flat out suck. if the car really is good, there will be a reason why it's also rare. otherwise a crapload of people are going to buy it.
i know i definitely would like it if my car was really unique but it's something i have to "put up" with. if you really want a unique car, just mod it. see devoid's rx-8. it's definitely cool and unique.
oh and ZoomZoomH, the 3 series is still loved by auto magazines so i don't think it's JUST status symbol (no doubt that's a factor though). it's a great looking, good performing car imo, just overpriced a bit.
there's a bunch of rx-8's here...
and even MORE corvettes by far (i'm talking all models though, not just the new one). and remember; mazda north america has a huge building in irvine (it's their headquarters i think)! i see more porsche carreras and boxters than i do rx-8s. but again, i see a lot of rx-8's which would tell you how absurd things can be.
the only reasons car X will be rare are
1) they're very expensive. in so cal you have to start hitting the 100K mark to have a rare car. it's probably different in other places, but here, it's pretty absurd how many nice cars there are. i'm not bragging; personally i think it sucks.
2) they're limited in quantity. the lotus elise i haven't seen much of. same with the FD RX-7. but that's because there's just not that many out there period. i've seen as many fd rx-7's in the past few months as i have lambourghinis!
3) they're just not that good. ie the car no one wants are relatively rare. it might be because of the looks, reliabiity, or performance.
so basically for the rx-8 to be rare it'd have to be very expensive (which means you probably can't afford it), in limited quantity (which means it'd also be more expensive than it should be, plus there'd be a waiting list, plus it'd be harder to service), or just flat out suck. if the car really is good, there will be a reason why it's also rare. otherwise a crapload of people are going to buy it.
i know i definitely would like it if my car was really unique but it's something i have to "put up" with. if you really want a unique car, just mod it. see devoid's rx-8. it's definitely cool and unique.
oh and ZoomZoomH, the 3 series is still loved by auto magazines so i don't think it's JUST status symbol (no doubt that's a factor though). it's a great looking, good performing car imo, just overpriced a bit.
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I agree. It's as though it were a vortex of stupidity; once you begin reading you just can't stop until you finish. My IQ just most likely dropped about fourty points after reading it.
05-27-2005, 04:25 PM
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A big part of the RX8's appeal to me is it's rarity... But, ultimately the decision to get one was the overall combination of factors- price, performance, appeal, rarity etc.
Here in Los Angeles, you see Lexus', BMW's, Mercedes', Audi's, Nissan Z's, Infiniti G35's freaking EVERWHERE. They are a dime a dozen- not to mention the handful of wannabe, rice rocket uglies like the Celica's, Eclipse's, and Acura's to add to the hob-nobbing, snobby, & materialistic auto parade.
If all the sudden RX8's were also everywhere, I would ABSOLUTELY be less-inclined to buy one, regardless of how much I love the car. The reason is NOT because it makes the car "cheap" in the financial sense, but more because part of the RX8's appeal to me IS its uniqueness.
Personally, I prefer not to jump on the bandwagon that everyone else is on. That's why I use a Macintosh and not a PC. That is also why I choose an RX8.
I would hate to wear the same clothes or shoes that everyone else is wearing- just to be "in." But, similarly, there are those people who like being "just like everyone else" and run with the "in-crowd." And, that is perfectly OK too. Whatever floats your boat. There's no good or bad, wrong or right.
It's personal preference...
=) Detrich
Here in Los Angeles, you see Lexus', BMW's, Mercedes', Audi's, Nissan Z's, Infiniti G35's freaking EVERWHERE. They are a dime a dozen- not to mention the handful of wannabe, rice rocket uglies like the Celica's, Eclipse's, and Acura's to add to the hob-nobbing, snobby, & materialistic auto parade.
If all the sudden RX8's were also everywhere, I would ABSOLUTELY be less-inclined to buy one, regardless of how much I love the car. The reason is NOT because it makes the car "cheap" in the financial sense, but more because part of the RX8's appeal to me IS its uniqueness.
Personally, I prefer not to jump on the bandwagon that everyone else is on. That's why I use a Macintosh and not a PC. That is also why I choose an RX8.
I would hate to wear the same clothes or shoes that everyone else is wearing- just to be "in." But, similarly, there are those people who like being "just like everyone else" and run with the "in-crowd." And, that is perfectly OK too. Whatever floats your boat. There's no good or bad, wrong or right.
It's personal preference...
=) Detrich
05-27-2005, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dewett
I agree. It's as though it were a vortex of stupidity; once you begin reading you just can't stop until you finish. My IQ just most likely dropped about fourty points after reading it.
05-27-2005, 04:52 PM
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Thank God for cheap
As a long time rotary lover it broke my heart when the FD model came out. I had an FC3S coupe 86 and loved it to death then the price DOUBLED when the FD came out. I wanted to buy another rotary but couldn't justify the expense and ended up restoring an FC vert instead. Then when the RX8 came out at a cheap/reasonable/affordable price guess what I got to buy another rotary. Unless we buy them they will disappear and become RARE . I love it to death and drive it to near death so far 
I just want to see more on the road so I can see more drivers SMILE :D
I just want to see more on the road so I can see more drivers SMILE :D
05-27-2005, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Detrich
A big part of the RX8's appeal to me is it's rarity... But, ultimately the decision to get one was the overall combination of factors- price, performance, appeal, rarity etc.
Here in Los Angeles, you see Lexus', BMW's, Mercedes', Audi's, Nissan Z's, Infiniti G35's freaking EVERWHERE. They are a dime a dozen- not to mention the handful of wannabe, rice rocket uglies like the Celica's, Eclipse's, and Acura's to add to the hob-nobbing, snobby, & materialistic auto parade.
If all the sudden RX8's were also everywhere, I would ABSOLUTELY be less-inclined to buy one, regardless of how much I love the car. The reason is NOT because it makes the car "cheap" in the financial sense, but more because part of the RX8's appeal to me IS its uniqueness.
Personally, I prefer not to jump on the bandwagon that everyone else is on. That's why I use a Macintosh and not a PC. That is also why I choose an RX8.
I would hate to wear the same clothes or shoes that everyone else is wearing- just to be "in." But, similarly, there are those people who like being "just like everyone else" and run with the "in-crowd." And, that is perfectly OK too. Whatever floats your boat. There's no good or bad, wrong or right.
It's personal preference...
=) Detrich
Here in Los Angeles, you see Lexus', BMW's, Mercedes', Audi's, Nissan Z's, Infiniti G35's freaking EVERWHERE. They are a dime a dozen- not to mention the handful of wannabe, rice rocket uglies like the Celica's, Eclipse's, and Acura's to add to the hob-nobbing, snobby, & materialistic auto parade.
If all the sudden RX8's were also everywhere, I would ABSOLUTELY be less-inclined to buy one, regardless of how much I love the car. The reason is NOT because it makes the car "cheap" in the financial sense, but more because part of the RX8's appeal to me IS its uniqueness.
Personally, I prefer not to jump on the bandwagon that everyone else is on. That's why I use a Macintosh and not a PC. That is also why I choose an RX8.
I would hate to wear the same clothes or shoes that everyone else is wearing- just to be "in." But, similarly, there are those people who like being "just like everyone else" and run with the "in-crowd." And, that is perfectly OK too. Whatever floats your boat. There's no good or bad, wrong or right.
It's personal preference...
=) Detrich
The only reason for doing anything is because you like it. Trying to be different is no different than trying to be the same. A bit hypocritical actually. I am sure Steve Jobs appreciates your money anyway. Of course if it was up to him everyone would have a MAC no?
05-27-2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Detrich
A big part of the RX8's appeal to me is it's rarity... But, ultimately the decision to get one was the overall combination of factors- price, performance, appeal, rarity etc.
Here in Los Angeles, you see Lexus', BMW's, Mercedes', Audi's, Nissan Z's, Infiniti G35's freaking EVERWHERE. They are a dime a dozen- not to mention the handful of wannabe, rice rocket uglies like the Celica's, Eclipse's, and Acura's to add to the hob-nobbing, snobby, & materialistic auto parade.
If all the sudden RX8's were also everywhere, I would ABSOLUTELY be less-inclined to buy one, regardless of how much I love the car. The reason is NOT because it makes the car "cheap" in the financial sense, but more because part of the RX8's appeal to me IS its uniqueness.
Personally, I prefer not to jump on the bandwagon that everyone else is on. That's why I use a Macintosh and not a PC. That is also why I choose an RX8.
I would hate to wear the same clothes or shoes that everyone else is wearing- just to be "in." But, similarly, there are those people who like being "just like everyone else" and run with the "in-crowd." And, that is perfectly OK too. Whatever floats your boat. There's no good or bad, wrong or right.
It's personal preference...
=) Detrich
Here in Los Angeles, you see Lexus', BMW's, Mercedes', Audi's, Nissan Z's, Infiniti G35's freaking EVERWHERE. They are a dime a dozen- not to mention the handful of wannabe, rice rocket uglies like the Celica's, Eclipse's, and Acura's to add to the hob-nobbing, snobby, & materialistic auto parade.
If all the sudden RX8's were also everywhere, I would ABSOLUTELY be less-inclined to buy one, regardless of how much I love the car. The reason is NOT because it makes the car "cheap" in the financial sense, but more because part of the RX8's appeal to me IS its uniqueness.
Personally, I prefer not to jump on the bandwagon that everyone else is on. That's why I use a Macintosh and not a PC. That is also why I choose an RX8.
I would hate to wear the same clothes or shoes that everyone else is wearing- just to be "in." But, similarly, there are those people who like being "just like everyone else" and run with the "in-crowd." And, that is perfectly OK too. Whatever floats your boat. There's no good or bad, wrong or right.
It's personal preference...
=) Detrich
05-27-2005, 06:23 PM
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When I purchased my first 8, it was because I loved the way it handled, the awesome revs with no vibration, the way it looked and the way I felt when I melted into the seat. I had no clue at the time that my car would draw so much interest on the road and parked and frankly it didn't matter then and it doesn't matter now. What matters is that I LOVE to drive my 8. That's what counts. I can go a week without ever seeing an 8 in my area. If the price is coming down so much, dang, I might just buy a blue A/T for my wife! Then I could detail twice on the weekends! :D
If you are not happy with your car than please sell it and get a vette. Maybe you should have done a little more research when you purchased it. Actually I'd love to have a C6 but I don't have that kind of money to play with. I can get two 8's for the price of one vette.
If you are not happy with your car than please sell it and get a vette. Maybe you should have done a little more research when you purchased it. Actually I'd love to have a C6 but I don't have that kind of money to play with. I can get two 8's for the price of one vette.
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05-27-2005, 06:34 PM
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I live in Phoenix, currently working on becoming the largest city in the US based on land area, and during the course of a week I can the number of other 8's I see on one hand.
Seen 2 others this week.
Seen 2 others this week.
05-27-2005, 07:09 PM
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Sell the 8 and get the 'vette, then you and the muscle cars can really run with each other. Be sure to go and pick up lots of heavy gold chains too, and a "trophy-wife" preferably a smoker with a bent towards 7 & 7's.
05-27-2005, 07:18 PM
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You guys (used in the most non-sexist way) have it really easy..
In Australia the poverty pack RX-8 costs $60,000 on the road - the $AUS and $CDN are almost the same value... AND the Japanese have to covert the car from RHD to LHD for you guys! Looks to me like Mazda are dumping cars in the North America market...
BTW I almost never see one where I live, but I know that there are at least 15 other members in my city...
In Australia the poverty pack RX-8 costs $60,000 on the road - the $AUS and $CDN are almost the same value... AND the Japanese have to covert the car from RHD to LHD for you guys! Looks to me like Mazda are dumping cars in the North America market...
BTW I almost never see one where I live, but I know that there are at least 15 other members in my city...
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My brother lives in Newcastle and if he didn't have two "little" ones and their baggage he'd have grabbed an 8 last year. Instead of the obligatory SUV - RX330. You guys only get 110 special editions versus our 2150. Not that we'll get all of them after the fire, but then again who knows. 
Not that we'll get all of them after the fire, but then again who knows.
05-27-2005, 08:03 PM
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I dunno... I think that the RX-8 is a great car for a small family... We have a Miss 5... She loves the car beacuse she has the secret compartment, her own window and cup holders...
If I had two children I would still have the 8 as that middle divider is a great peace maker.... Something that was missing when my sister and I were children sitting on the bench seat in the back of my father's many Holdens...
If I had two children I would still have the 8 as that middle divider is a great peace maker.... Something that was missing when my sister and I were children sitting on the bench seat in the back of my father's many Holdens...
05-27-2005, 08:08 PM
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The point is that the RX-8 is mazda's flagship vehicle and is suppose to be a sophtiscated car. When I open up the paper they are advertising it non-stop as its just a civic. Do you ever see other car companies slash the prices on their flagship cars?(ex. corvette) Even if the corvette is year 2000 it will always have a prestige value because GM marketed the car right. So stop being so god damn defensive over the rx-8. I chpose the corvette because it has the most slickest look, POWER, TORQUE, and convertible. Its also a major head-turner and btw I think the best compliment I got from a guy for my RX-8 was....
"Is that the new S2000?"
"Is that the new S2000?"
05-27-2005, 08:21 PM
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Maybe I'm missing the point here...I'm not sure... I just stumpled on this thread... but let me get this straight... you are arguing about how the RX-8 is perhaps like a mis-mark in a store. If it's priced so cheap, how can it be *that* good?
And Damn! Now more than two other people in your town have come to that same conclusion and bought an RX-8 which you occassionally pass on the road..
Well, heavens sake - that alone is reason enough to ditch the car!@ All I can say is you're going to spend a lot of money in this life, 'welcome to the machine'!
And Damn! Now more than two other people in your town have come to that same conclusion and bought an RX-8 which you occassionally pass on the road..
Well, heavens sake - that alone is reason enough to ditch the car!@ All I can say is you're going to spend a lot of money in this life
, 'welcome to the machine'!
05-27-2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
Maybe I'm missing the point here...I'm not sure... I just stumpled on this thread... but let me get this straight... you are arguing about how the RX-8 is perhaps like a mis-mark in a store. If it's priced so cheap, how can it be *that* good?
And Damn! Now more than two other people in your town have come to that same conclusion and bought an RX-8 which you occassionally pass on the road..
Well, heavens sake - that alone is reason enough to ditch the car!@ All I can say is you're going to spend a lot of money in this life, 'welcome to the machine'!
And Damn! Now more than two other people in your town have come to that same conclusion and bought an RX-8 which you occassionally pass on the road..
Well, heavens sake - that alone is reason enough to ditch the car!@ All I can say is you're going to spend a lot of money in this life
, 'welcome to the machine'!
05-27-2005, 09:13 PM
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I know how to manage money and not just blow it away besides i'm only 18 and have lots to learn. I'm just saying Mazda marketed this car very very poorly and is branding themselves as cheap as ford. Yes I know mazda is apart of ford but Mercedes is apart of Daimler-Chrysler and they know how to market.
- Doors closing softly on guy hugging his VR 8
- "ZoomZoomZoom"... How many times have you tried to get that out of your brain?
- "Somethins Up!"
- Commercials on Speedchannel during Grand American and American LeMans races
Their advertising it targeted. I guess you don't watch racing events.
What do you consider "good marketing? I couldn't tell you one line or one ad I've seen from Daimler-Chrysler.
So... are you 18 or 51? Your profile said you were born in 1954?
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Minda sell the 8 and get a damn vette and leave us the ***** alone. You are about as bright as a dim lightbulb and are too dumb to own an 8. If you wanted the rare, special value, why don't you get plastic surgery, got a girlfriend/wife with big fake *****, and a neon sign to go around your neck that says "Look at me!!!"
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If your dissatisfied with your 8, then sell it. Rarity for a mass produced car is tough to have(You can't have your cake and eat it too). Mazda still has to make money.
Good luck and adios amigo.
Good luck and adios amigo.
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Originally Posted by Minda
I know how to manage money and not just blow it away besides i'm only 18 and have lots to learn. I'm just saying Mazda marketed this car very very poorly and is branding themselves as cheap as ford. Yes I know mazda is apart of ford but Mercedes is apart of Daimler-Chrysler and they know how to market.
goddamn kid get your parents to buy you a real loud bike and rev the thing at the red lights in town if you need the attention so badly...I love how kids try to look "rich" to other people by getting cars that "seem" expensive, like the 325i "I DRIVE A BMW crowd! No offense to that crowd tho' I was one for a few years.
This 18 year old knows everything about marketing and managing his parents money tho' so maybe I shouldn't talk...
Nice troll tho'...we all bit.
05-27-2005, 10:19 PM
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So here is the logic as I understand it:
1) You don't want very many people to buy the RX-8 because you want it to be rare and unique, but you also don't wan't Mazda to discount the cars because you feel that cheapens them.
How are they going to keep from discounting the cars if they are not selling enough of them? You can't have it both ways as long as you are buying a mass production vehicle. Maybe you need to be looking at a Lamborghini.
1) You don't want very many people to buy the RX-8 because you want it to be rare and unique, but you also don't wan't Mazda to discount the cars because you feel that cheapens them.
How are they going to keep from discounting the cars if they are not selling enough of them? You can't have it both ways as long as you are buying a mass production vehicle. Maybe you need to be looking at a Lamborghini.