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Old 09-22-2011, 04:31 AM
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Massive Power Loss HELP

Hi all. Had the 8 on the dyno today and it only produced 98.4 rwkw's. It has only done 104,000km's or about 61,000miles. Whats up with this? Over the last 12 months there has been a gradual power loss. about 3 weeks ago I replaced the leads, Plugs and coil paks. NO LUV!! I replaced the plugs about 6 months ago and she was still missing so I checked it out before replacing them again and 1 was rusted and looking like it had travelled 100,000kms. It still seems to be missing and I have no idea why I am about 35kw's short. I haven't done any work to the 8 she is Stock as a rock!! what could it Be PLEASE anyone?? I have not serviced the injectors and pump or changed the fuel filter.. Could this be an issue? I have replaced the front and rear oxy and Cat and all of the above and frequently do my oil.

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Any recent compression tests?
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Yes, a compression check is in order. Could you post any engine codes that have been found in the ECU?
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Originally Posted by Wingznut
Any recent compression tests?
No compression test as yet and no ECU fault codes. What would be the best way to conduct a compression test?
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No compression test as yet and no ECU fault codes. What would be the best way to conduct a compression test?
A Mazda dealership would have to perform the compression test, unless you happen to know someone who has a rotary engine compression tester.. Usually the dealer will charge around $100-$200.
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Hey Scooter I have mechanics at my work but they dont know anything about the Renesis can I utilise any of there equipment?
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Could it be my OE exhaust???
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Hey alnielsen I will go past my Mates workshop 2moro and use his scan tool and if it throws any new codes i'll let you know but haven't had a code since my cat clapped out oops sorry front & rear Oxy and cat clapped out.
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Hey Wingznut do you do your own comp test?
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I've done hundreds of compression tests on piston engines, but never on a rotary. And yes, you'll need to use a compression tester designed for a rotary.
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is it cheaper to buy the tools or pay someone that has them? As i have the tech's at my work who can diagnose if they have these tools.
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After a quick Google search, looks like two-rotor compression testers are between $300-400.
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Hey Wingznut what exhaust are you running? and if so at how many km's or miles did you change your oe at? Because my biggest issue that i have had with the 8 was my cat and oxy's do you think the exhaust could be the issue?
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Easiest way is to just go to a Mazda dealer. If you go there, and you fail the compression test they can get you started on a possible replacement engine under warranty.
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Mazda Tech's can never diagnose where i am 3 told me when i had my cat and oxy issues that i would need a complete rebuild..

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Hey Wingznut what exhaust are you running? and if so at how many km's or miles did you change your oe at? Because my biggest issue that i have had with the 8 was my cat and oxy's do you think the exhaust could be the issue?
Stock exhaust, all original with 39,000 miles. Yes, exhaust COULD be the issue. As could a dozen other things.

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3-400 Jesus!! are you in Oz??
Nope, I'm in OR.
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what are your thoughts about other issues? all the old school 13B's i have had have not been the renesis? and have been easy fixes.. they usually lose power then go bang within a month or so this 8 has been going strong then slowly going down hill for the last 18 months is this the new school apex seals wearing or do they just go bang within a thousand k or so like the old school 13b's??
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Anybody know anything besides the obvious about the purge solenoid valve misfunction & is this tyre pressure really related???
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what engine do you have?
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you need a compression check. the only part of your stock exhaust that would effect the power over time is the cat which you say has been changed
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