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Old 08-13-2002, 09:18 PM
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I don't think Mazda dealers CAN price gouge....

Because too many people will just walk into the Infiniti dealership, and buy a G35 or G35 coupe for less money.

Am I right, or no?
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That is a possiblity

Of course the price of the RX-8 will determine how many people can or will purchace the car. I don't totally agree with your statement though that price gouging will force converts to another make, at least it wouldn't for me. I would think most people would decide which car is right for them by research and test drives. Then after they decide which one they want, they shop around for a dealer that will give them the most for their money. At least that's what I would do.

It is corporate Mazda's responsiblity to come up with a MSRP that is competitive, fair, and profitable for them. That is what will probably determine the RX-8's sucess between it and other makes. Dealers who price gouge are preying on the lazy and in the long run are only hurting themselves. Price gougeing will probably only make people shop around between dealers.

That is, of course, unless all of the dealers are price gouging and then your original statement is correct. That would be similar to the original release of the Acura NSX and to a lesser extent, the Honda S2000. People will just buy other stuff and the greed and stupidity of the dealers will just be hurting their manufacturer.
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Mazda will come up with an competative MSRP, possible around $26,000. Whatever the dealers do with that price is up to them but a smart shopper would look for better deals (lower prices).
About the S2000, in my opion i think that car is heavily overpriced, even the MSRP is high.
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Why do you idiots keep saying, if I don't like it, I'll just buy the G35 coupe, and so will everyone else? That is completely retarded. Does the G35 come with a rotary engine? NO. Does the G35c come with suicide doors? NO. Is it ugly? YES. I don't understand that mentality, if for some small reason Mazda angers me, I will automatically go and buy an ugly car, with an ugly cheap interior, with no rotary engine, and hard to reach back seats. Stop trolling Hercules
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Originally posted by TheLaw
Why do you idiots keep saying, if I don't like it, I'll just buy the G35 coupe, and so will everyone else? That is completely retarded. Does the G35 come with a rotary engine? NO. Does the G35c come with suicide doors? NO. Is it ugly? YES. I don't understand that mentality, if for some small reason Mazda angers me, I will automatically go and buy an ugly car, with an ugly cheap interior, with no rotary engine, and hard to reach back seats. Stop trolling Hercules
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I wouldn't buy the G35 anyways, I've already driven it and I just don't dig it.
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You guy can't be serious...the G35 Coupe...ugly??.....absolutely LMAO......WTF are you smokin man...settle down and get a grip.
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Originally posted by natev
You guy can't be serious...the G35 Coupe...ugly??.....absolutely LMAO......WTF are you smokin man...settle down and get a grip.
Everybody is entitled to their opinions. I don't dig the G35 myself. The interior is way too cheap, I don't expect any different on the Coupe. However, the Mazda Millenia I currently own has a very nice interior compared to most Japanese cars, which is a nice thing to look forward to when the Mazda guys are saying that the RX-8 and future models will have even better materials in them.
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I have a 2000 Millenia S Millenium Edition....and I "DO" agree that the fit and finish in the Milly are better than the G35 Sedan..BUT..severely lacking in some important "optional" equipment areas....you ...nor I can assume that the Coupe will be the same as the Sedan....NNA has admitted some of the flaws with the current Sedan interior (leather first and foremost) and are improving them in the Coupe which will not even begin to be produced until September 2nd. All you have seen for the RX is a couple Car mag articles....that's it. You won't know til you go look at it.....as for me, if I am soooo unimpressed with the Coupe's interior that I decide against getting it, I'll stroll over to Mazda (where my buddy is a manager) and grab the RX-8....both are beauties......this previous kid who said the G Coupe is ugly is a complete jackass though IMO. :D
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LMAO Natev, that you come to a Mazda message board and sing the praises of Nissan. LMAOROTF, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Whatever crack you smoked, pass it along, don't hog. Anyone who thinks beauty is objective is clearly insane.
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I own a Mazda Millenia you stupid **** "The Law??" and was already on the list for the RX as of April. Go find something something better to do with your time then post senseless dribble that I have read from you here. You sound like your 18 years old for christs sake.

ps.. If beauty is objetive - which it certainly is, then you should said: ugly IMO, ugly IMO, ugly IMO. You son, are not even close to the final word on automotive styling and can't even admit that there just might be the possibility of (get this) 2 very attractive sports cars being launched in the next year. That is one hell of great sig BTW....LMAO...zoom zoomie!!. :D

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Awright, back to your corners and read the forum rules again, guys. Disagreement is fine, but name-calling will get you edited or worse. Consider yourselves warned.
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sorry to fan the flames but i gotta say put me in the jackass club for i too think the g35c is not all that attractive. it does however appeal to me more than the 350z. i just hope my rx-8 will keep me ahead of both of those cars because i certainly don't want to look at either from the back again. imight steer right off the road.
but thats just one man's opinion. everyone is entilted and certainly shouldn't draw fire for expressing one.
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Zoom44… you trying to stimulate a little lively conversation in here??? :D
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Natev at least my city doesn't have a baseball team with one of the highest combined salaries, yet is going to lose the wild card spot to the Angels, which last I checked can't fill a stadium. Typical Boston Irish, incapable of playing baseball, incapable speaking without cussing, and incapable of realizing that they are in a Mazda forum singing praises for a Nissan. By the way I'm 23, and in law school. I went to Boston University, I think I saw you from dorm room, you were the homeless guy with the laptop sitting next to the Mazda Millenia, that you occcasionally peed on and called yours. Right on Comm Ave. Glad you finally got an internet connection.
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P.S. objective is spelled o-b-j-e-c-t-i-v-e. Not objetive, which it certainly isn't, and it certainly isn't objective either. For instance your wife, who many might find obese, would be ugly to most, whereas she is pretty to you. Now do you see how it is not objective?
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ehh...alot of chaos going on in this thread.

We all have our opinions! Don't turn this forum into a battleground, just respect eachothers opinions. It doesn't help this forum look good if you guys keep bad mouthing eachother.
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Whoa now horsey...

I had been reading this thread finding it amusing how people take what cars they like and drive so seriously and personally. It started out as a debatable topic with professional responses. Somehow it digressed into juvenile name calling and picking on each other’s favorite vehicles. I was hoping we had all passed middle school if we were in the market for this car. Now we have threats of physical violence! Where did that come from?

Let's shake ourselves guys and try to return to the maturity and decorum that has made this forum so enjoyable up until this point. It's not very becoming to go into a mouth foaming rage everytime someone types something you disagree with. The more you do that, the less mature and educated you appear.

Let's stick to discussing and anticipating the great car that we are all excited about. In the meantime, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the moderators to clean some of this crap up. We don't want to start a trend.
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Your'e right..I deleted my post....I didn't want to scare lil MrLaw....I will not stoop to his immature level as we all know he drives a what??..oh yeah a Nissan....Ha..a SENTRA at that LMAO!!!......TheLaw, open up your PM though so we can talk privately about your issues.
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well that was fun, though completely uneducational
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Natev,

Chill out man. I actually worked at a law school for year in thier IT department. You'd be suprised what lawyers drive. I saw plenty of nissans driven by students and Professors. Heck some of the lawyers don't even have CARS!!!!! Here is a life lesson for you, you can't judge a persons true wealth by the Car they drive. Remember a Car is a depriciating assett(Money Pit) that just gets you from point A to B. Sometimes people just want to save money toward more import things like a house or stock investments. There are many 7 figure guys who pinch pennies when it comes to thier car.

Just because this a anonymous forum doesn't mean you have to be so rude...


The post by Natev was deleted, so ignore

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Did you even read this string of posts and see how insulting this Law character has been?? He was the one insulting me to begin with. Then he says he's 23, in Law School but his profile says he's a lawyer....this kid is just a bunch of BS....he's a complete and utter hypocrite.
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I have to agree with NateV on this one:

TheLaw, you're hitting below the belt purposely to aggravate Nate. If you really are 23 show some etiquette and quit it.

I am however opposed to NateV telling us what IS and ISN'T a beautiful car, so leave room for other peoples opinions, nate.


:as much as I enjoy flaming as an entertainment, its ultimately a forum cancer, both of you please work it out yourselves to find some middle ground here :
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I said BOTH are very attractive

Sir, please go read this thread again before you accuse ME. I already stated that both cars are gorgeous, I also have stated that I had an RX on pre-order as far back as April....I just decided to go with the G Coupe instead...I am still very interested to see the RX when it comes out (6 months to a year from now). I am the one trying to eduacate this young lil guy (The Law) that they are both fine machines and he should not go around flying off the handle as he seems to do quite often. I'd like to see him get thrown out of this forum. Go read search and read all his posts and you'll see how narrow minded he really is...also, read this thread again and you'll understand my point very very clearly. I have no time for imaturity such as he displays on a daily basis. he is now on my ignore list so "Law" don't reply.

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Now, if anyone wamts to know how

Infinti dealers are trying to "price Gouge" for the Coupe and the fact that it is perfectly legal for them to do so. I will share some scenarios as it may help a few prospective RX buyers that may encounter the same "dealership tactics". Let me know if this is of interest to anyone here (except Law) and I will elaborate as best I can.
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Natev,

It's always ME, ME, ME. You are so self centered. I don't want to hear any more LiP from you, you are wrong today any you will be wrong tomorrow.


:p ok now I am just being a obvious troll, oh well my break time at the massage parlor is almost done I hope I don't have to do another "Happy ending" or "Full body massage"


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