whats the manual usually?

 

180-185whp.

 

60 whp less?!?! holy ****. what about torque??

 

nahh my sisters 2005 civic (non vtec) is rated at 117hp at sea level. and trust me my 8 def walks that car

 

I just can't believe the dyno charts. I walked over the new GTI's with a downpipe. we went from 5 mph to 60. He launched at me..chirped.. did his thing. but my 1st gear goes straight up to about 55 mph. so i took him by a car. Is 300 freeway. e30 m3 freeway. the old GTI's. 325. all lost to me..

 

People don't realize the beauty 9000rpm's can do for a car's acceleration. The 8 doesn't have torque, but that's because it doesn't need it.

 

exactly. My friend in the GTI shifted twice during that time and i was still in 1st gear. I even had a passenger in my car. Funny day. He couldn't believe it.

 

It's a 75 shot and 185 whp. And yes it will smoke the tires. I do not recommend launching with nitrous in an automatic. It might work and it might not work.

As far as the OP question. Give it up.