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09-28-2005, 10:10 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by StewC625
This is sure spoken like someone who is still "on the tit", isn't it.
Try living independently, on your own cash, rather than on the cash of your parents and you may see things quite a bit differently.
Try living independently, on your own cash, rather than on the cash of your parents and you may see things quite a bit differently.
09-28-2005, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ShogunQ
QUOTE: "Why invest all that money? Sure it may be smart, but should you really eliminate your fun times as a teenager so you don't have to skimp as much 10 years down the road? You're cheating yourself if you do that. I'm a firm believer in doing what you want, when you want to. I don't much understand how some people can do that, so boring."
Never too young to start investing. For example if you start saving $155 a month at age 20 with a 12% return you will be a millionaire by age 55. If you start saving at age 30 you will have to put back $535 a month to save a Million by age 55. If being relatively financially secure most of your life is boring then try this on after you are 65; "Hello, welcome to Walmart." A lot of people spend the last part of their life cleaning up the poor choices they made during the first half...
Never too young to start investing. For example if you start saving $155 a month at age 20 with a 12% return you will be a millionaire by age 55. If you start saving at age 30 you will have to put back $535 a month to save a Million by age 55. If being relatively financially secure most of your life is boring then try this on after you are 65; "Hello, welcome to Walmart." A lot of people spend the last part of their life cleaning up the poor choices they made during the first half...
09-28-2005, 01:18 PM
#103
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Originally Posted by Aoshi Shinomori
You guys are misunderstanding me. I'm not asking/telling anyone to go out and blow all their money. I don't think it is fair as a kid, to limit the things you can do because you want to be better prepared for the future. Why not live for today? Saving money is great, but putting away 33k out of 35k is a little over the edge in my opinion. Call me a dolt if you'd like, but this is my view. Compromising your teen years by putting away over 90% of you money is foolish in my opinion.
But you know what? There are certain things in life that you just have to spend money on and enjoy. What precisely those are will differ from person to person, but for an awful lot of people, having a cool car, especially when you're young, is one of them. For me, these days, it's taking vacations with my girlfriend from Poland. Indeed, taking a trip with her was what finally made me decide it was time to dump the old frugalmobile (acquired while I was out of work, but kept because it was working just fine and wasn't costing me anything), and step up to something really nice. Hence the Shinka.
Planning for the future is terrific, but sometimes you have to enjoy the present, because that's what life is and you have to live it. I promise you, when he's 85, he won't be looking back with joy remembering the money he saved by not buying a cool car when he was young. But the memories I'll have of driving around in my old mustang: priceless.
To quote Professor Harold Hill:
"You pile up enough tomorrows and you'll find you've collected nothing but a lot of empty yesterdays. I don't know about you, but I'd like to make today worth remembering."
Enough of this, I'm going down to the footbridge.
Krankor
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09-28-2005, 01:39 PM
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Let me just lay this out strait, i to am 19, I have an RX-8. at the age of 19, i make good money, i invest in my 401k and have since i was 18. i now have over 6k in my 401k, and i do save 200 dollars a month in my savings, that i cant even touch. (which is good) Honestly bro, since ur getting a car for free, and ur not having to pay for it, just get what u can get ya know? I read that ur doing pharmacy **** right? well, they make good money, after ur outta school, then get one. invest in a house like i did. im 19, and have my own house. so seriously, all that money ur gettingg from ur parents, i would save, u can easily turn ur 35k into 50k in 6 years. thats 15k for doing nuthing but saving. hope were all helping, even though some arent. but i hope u get this.
09-28-2005, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Krankor
I have to agree with this. But apparently, on this narrow-minded holier-than-thou thread, I have to cite my credentials first to do so. I am 43 years old and have been living on my own money for some 20 years. I am a major believer in saving and investing, and in most things in life I am very frugal. For instance, I live in a very small, very affordable appartment. A couple years ago I was out of work for a lengthy period of time and I was able to get through it because I had plenty of savings to fall back on. So I am hardly a spendthrift.
But you know what? There are certain things in life that you just have to spend money on and enjoy. What precisely those are will differ from person to person, but for an awful lot of people, having a cool car, especially when you're young, is one of them. For me, these days, it's taking vacations with my girlfriend from Poland. Indeed, taking a trip with her was what finally made me decide it was time to dump the old frugalmobile (acquired while I was out of work, but kept because it was working just fine and wasn't costing me anything), and step up to something really nice. Hence the Shinka.
Planning for the future is terrific, but sometimes you have to enjoy the present, because that's what life is and you have to live it. I promise you, when he's 85, he won't be looking back with joy remembering the money he saved by not buying a cool car when he was young. But the memories I'll have of driving around in my old mustang: priceless.
To quote Professor Harold Hill:
"You pile up enough tomorrows and you'll find you've collected nothing but a lot of empty yesterdays. I don't know about you, but I'd like to make today worth remembering."
Enough of this, I'm going down to the footbridge.
Krankor
05 Shinka 6MT
But you know what? There are certain things in life that you just have to spend money on and enjoy. What precisely those are will differ from person to person, but for an awful lot of people, having a cool car, especially when you're young, is one of them. For me, these days, it's taking vacations with my girlfriend from Poland. Indeed, taking a trip with her was what finally made me decide it was time to dump the old frugalmobile (acquired while I was out of work, but kept because it was working just fine and wasn't costing me anything), and step up to something really nice. Hence the Shinka.
Planning for the future is terrific, but sometimes you have to enjoy the present, because that's what life is and you have to live it. I promise you, when he's 85, he won't be looking back with joy remembering the money he saved by not buying a cool car when he was young. But the memories I'll have of driving around in my old mustang: priceless.
To quote Professor Harold Hill:
"You pile up enough tomorrows and you'll find you've collected nothing but a lot of empty yesterdays. I don't know about you, but I'd like to make today worth remembering."
Enough of this, I'm going down to the footbridge.
Krankor
05 Shinka 6MT
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09-28-2005, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by abbid
Enough is enough, convince your own parents, that's not our responsibility.
Theres over a million posts on this forum and im pretty sure you are smart enough to scrap together enough information to sell your parents on the idea of getting you an RX-8.
We've given you all the information you need about this car yet you continue to say your parents dont want you having a RWD car. News flash, the RX-8 is RWD and no matter what we say on these forums, it will remain a RWD car. It's got the DSC/TCS system which is very aggressive when it comes to wheel spin/slides. Pair that with a proper set of winter tires and youre pretty safe as long as you keep in mind that youre driving on SNOW, not asphalt.
If youre going to drive it like you stole while in the snow, regardless of it being RWD, FWD or AWD, you're going to have an accident eventually.
Theres over a million posts on this forum and im pretty sure you are smart enough to scrap together enough information to sell your parents on the idea of getting you an RX-8.
We've given you all the information you need about this car yet you continue to say your parents dont want you having a RWD car. News flash, the RX-8 is RWD and no matter what we say on these forums, it will remain a RWD car. It's got the DSC/TCS system which is very aggressive when it comes to wheel spin/slides. Pair that with a proper set of winter tires and youre pretty safe as long as you keep in mind that youre driving on SNOW, not asphalt.
If youre going to drive it like you stole while in the snow, regardless of it being RWD, FWD or AWD, you're going to have an accident eventually.
09-28-2005, 07:34 PM
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just wash all dishes, clean up the house and give them the sad puppy eyes. After that tell them to test drive it at lease once. If after all that they still not convince, get a job, move out and get it yourself.
09-28-2005, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StewC625
Ya know, any day you can quote Music Man, is a great day!
Krankor, who is your Shipoopie?
Krankor, who is your Shipoopie?
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09-29-2005, 12:27 AM
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Judging by the previous posts I believe we have teenagers providing another teenager information on what vehicle to purchase. A 35 thousand dollar gift will do him no good. Finish college, earn your degree, get a job, earn your own money then purchase a vehicle of your choice. Don't talk about all the "hard work" your being rewarded for...nonsense! This Hard Work that you speak of would have earned you the 35 thousand already on your own and this forum would never have taken place. Shame on you for taking your parents money and shame on your parents for getting their priorities ***-backwards.
09-29-2005, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by H1000
Judging by the previous posts I believe we have teenagers providing another teenager information on what vehicle to purchase. A 35 thousand dollar gift will do him no good. Finish college, earn your degree, get a job, earn your own money then purchase a vehicle of your choice. Don't talk about all the "hard work" your being rewarded for...nonsense! This Hard Work that you speak of would have earned you the 35 thousand already on your own and this forum would never have taken place. Shame on you for taking your parents money and shame on your parents for getting their priorities ***-backwards.
Read everyone of my posts, yes, i am a teenager, but i got my priorities strait. Im still going to school, and working 2 jobs. I told him to save his 35k.. and get something cheap. read all the posts b4 u post something that makes no sense. also, u know damnwell if ur parents offered u 35k and u were 19 u would take it! i sure as hell would. and dont shame his parents for parenting. if they think theyre son diservers a car, damnit he should get a car. If my son is going to college, and working, and getting good grades, he can get whatever he wants. so FLAME ON!
09-29-2005, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by StewC625
Hey but he broke two Hondas - both times by over-boosting them. He posted in the lounge too. His profile shows he's driving a $3000 car with $15,000 worth of performance parts in it, so he's clearly a financial wizard as well as a linguist.
Quite the tool.
Quite the tool.
CLASSIC!!!!!! This became worth reading with posts like that! Too funny, he really put you in your place though
09-29-2005, 05:03 PM
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He did??? I scanned all the posts again to find out what you're talking about and didn't see it.
Glad I made you laugh ...
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10-04-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Overport
your parents are going to spend $35k on a car for their 19 year old.
im not going to comment on this. learn some working skills, and finance an 8.
oh and your 19, you dont need mommy and daddy anymore.
im not going to comment on this. learn some working skills, and finance an 8.
oh and your 19, you dont need mommy and daddy anymore.
I cannot say that every decision I have ever made, or that my parents ever made while I was under their care some thirty years ago, would always have appeared reasonable to everyone else, but they did appear reasonable to me at the time. It's not the job of strangers to decide what's in my best interests, and not mine to dictate what is the best interests of others unless they specifically ask me to do so.
10-09-2005, 01:05 AM
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This thread had become a Rorschach test for many people...it's hilarious.
If mojoxjojo is still around, use some some of your money for some advanced driving lessons in a class that has rear wheel drive cars, maybe that'll pacify your parents. For a couple of hundred dollars you should be able to get a good class somewhere nearby.
The other things that cracks me up about this FD/RD debate is that I grew up in Minnesota in the 70s, and everyone had rear wheel drive...no big deal driving through feet and feet of snow. It's all up to the driver. A dumb driver will do more damage in a FD than an average, cautious driver in a RD. Whatever you get, get snow tires. They make more difference than FD/RD. And remember that everything--stopping starting, turning--takes a little longer in the snow, so plan everything a little earlier and slower.
If you get your 8, take it on a parking lot, slowly, and toss the rear out a little and see if you can catch it. It will be invaluable those times you're starting from a stop sign into a turn, and the rear tires spin on some ice or packed snow you didn't expect. The quicker you can countersteer the less you'll slide. Also try a couple quick brake checks so you'll know what it's like when you start sliding while stopping, though with ABS this may not be a big deal anymore (I just remembered! In the 70s nobody had ABS either or airbags...some of us didn't even have seat belts...somehow almost all of us managed to stop in the snow with rear wheel drive cars--it's a wonder any of us survived!)
Good luck and happy (and safe) driving.
If mojoxjojo is still around, use some some of your money for some advanced driving lessons in a class that has rear wheel drive cars, maybe that'll pacify your parents. For a couple of hundred dollars you should be able to get a good class somewhere nearby.
The other things that cracks me up about this FD/RD debate is that I grew up in Minnesota in the 70s, and everyone had rear wheel drive...no big deal driving through feet and feet of snow. It's all up to the driver. A dumb driver will do more damage in a FD than an average, cautious driver in a RD. Whatever you get, get snow tires. They make more difference than FD/RD. And remember that everything--stopping starting, turning--takes a little longer in the snow, so plan everything a little earlier and slower.
If you get your 8, take it on a parking lot, slowly, and toss the rear out a little and see if you can catch it. It will be invaluable those times you're starting from a stop sign into a turn, and the rear tires spin on some ice or packed snow you didn't expect. The quicker you can countersteer the less you'll slide. Also try a couple quick brake checks so you'll know what it's like when you start sliding while stopping, though with ABS this may not be a big deal anymore (I just remembered! In the 70s nobody had ABS either or airbags...some of us didn't even have seat belts...somehow almost all of us managed to stop in the snow with rear wheel drive cars--it's a wonder any of us survived!)
Good luck and happy (and safe) driving.
10-09-2005, 05:29 AM
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Not only should you demand the RWD RX-8 but that your parents pick up and move to a warm climate so you don't have to worry about snow -or- have them buy a snowplow and the butler can drive in front of you when it snows.
10-09-2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ggreen29
The other things that cracks me up about this FD/RD debate is that I grew up in Minnesota in the 70s, and everyone had rear wheel drive...no big deal driving through feet and feet of snow. It's all up to the driver. A dumb driver will do more damage in a FD than an average, cautious driver in a RD. Whatever you get, get snow tires. They make more difference than FD/RD. And remember that everything--stopping starting, turning--takes a little longer in the snow, so plan everything a little earlier and slower.
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