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Old 03-10-2004, 08:35 AM
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Read some of the treads concerning camaro reliability. They have not improved much. Just a sporty looking car with big tires, engine and tranny. It's still a cheap trick. No status. See how it runs 60k from now. Hope you trade before then.

I spelled camaro bothways so I got it right once.

I am mid-age but no crisis yet. Just wiser. Don't see too many of us old farts driving camaro's. Woud'nt waste my time.

Never hit a pole yet and have logged over 200k on bikes. More chance of hurting yourself or someone else dragracing your 350 hp camaro.

Been married 31 years never been in jail so I think I qualify as domestic.

It's not an attitude, juut an opinion.

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Old 03-10-2004, 09:51 AM
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o to 60 in what? lets say between 5 and 7 seconds for both cars. I drive a lot longer than 7 seconds a day and for that portion of driving i will take the 8 again and again. I put some though into the 05 mustang but ...well like so many have said here drive the 8. in really does put the "8" in "gr8 drive"
Old 03-10-2004, 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Baller
BUY THE RX-8
No matter how much fun I have behind the wheel of an F-body, I can't get over my fear of what the car will be like as the years, and miles, add up. I am sure and I hope that the American auto makers get it together before it's too late.
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Hey, Baller, does this include your fun re the Camaro-plus pictures you posted on another thread? Or was that not "behind the wheel"?
Old 03-10-2004, 02:42 PM
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Hey, Baller, does this include your fun re the Camaro-plus pictures you posted on another thread? Or was that not "behind the wheel"?
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Take a piece of paper and take this test. Total the result and which ever gets the highest marks is what you will make your decision on.

Take the following catagories

Power, quality, interior design, handling, Fun to drive, torque, Drag racing ability, engine smoothness, looks, utility, gas mileage, image, cost, oil consumption, clutch engagement, transmission shifting,refinement,steering and sex in the back seat. Drive both cars and try the above catagories and rate the cars. if there is a catagory you dont care about, like Looks (I assume you dont care since you drive an F body) then remove it. Total it and you will get a clear winner.

For example I have driving my friends 2002 Z28. My ratings will be the Z28 first and the rx8 second. On a scale of 1 to 10


Power, 10 6.5
quality, 5.5 10
interior design, 4.6 9.8
handling, 5.7 10
Fun to drive, 4.5 10
torque, 10 2
Drag racing ability, 10 1
engine smoothness, 7 10
looks, 3 10
utility, 8 10
gas mileage, 8 6
image, 3 9
cost, 10 9
oil consumption, 8 6
clutch engagement, 4 10
transmission shifting 4 10
steering 5 10
refinement 3 10
sex in the back seat. 10 1


As you can see this test had a total of 190 and the rx8 got a 150.3 while the F body got a 123.3.
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Originally posted by Roaddemon
Supersport

Read some of the treads concerning camaro reliability. They have not improved much. Just a sporty looking car with big tires, engine and tranny. It's still a cheap trick. No status. See how it runs 60k from now. Hope you trade before then.

I spelled camaro bothways so I got it right once.

I am mid-age but no crisis yet. Just wiser. Don't see too many of us old farts driving camaro's. Woud'nt waste my time.

Never hit a pole yet and have logged over 200k on bikes. More chance of hurting yourself or someone else dragracing your 350 hp camaro.

Been married 31 years never been in jail so I think I qualify as domestic.

It's not an attitude, juut an opinion.

Hello back to you.
I don't think anyone that doesn't or wouldn't own a Camaro should ever say anything to a Camaro owner about reliability issues. ls1supersport knows if his car is reliable or not. He doesn't have to read anything.

Half of the people on the LS1 forum probably look at the RX-8 as just another slow rice car that floods all day. All they have to do is read the comments on this forum. Remember that the much larger more powerful LS1 in the Camaro/Vette will kick the crap out of the RX-8 in the gas mileage and power department all day every day. It suddenly isn't as funny when the tides are turned on your car is it? It is just an opinion, yours. It doesn't make it fact or anyone elses opinion. did it ever occur to you that Chevy didn't design the Camaro the same as the RX-8? If they had, there wouldn't be a solid rear axle. Different cars, different goals. The Camaro is a car that resembles the muscle car age and there is still a much larger Camaro following than there is rotary following in this country.

Motorcycles in general are not more prone to accident but some of their riders are. I'm a Harley person myself and like to cruise around. I am absolutely against the crotch rocket crowd since they are a majority of the motorcycle accidents on the road. To me they are the ricers in terms of attitude of the motorcycle world. I'm not saying I don't like the bikes. They are technological wonders but most of their owners lack the ability to drive sincerely and with regards to the general public. Comparing a crotchrocket to a street car is like comparing a Cessna to the SR-71 or a Festiva to a top fuel dragster. It is an absolutely ridiculous comparison. Go race a Formula 1 car on them and see what happens. Another stupid comparison.

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Originally posted by ls1SuperSport

As for the GM F-Body reliability, I really think alot more of it is slander then anything else. Alot of the people who bash on F-Bodies for their "GM reliability" have never owned one. As for my car, Im pushing 40,000 miles on it and It has not given me any problems.
Is1SuperSport,

I owned a 1987 Formula 350. When I bought it I knew it was not a reliable car due to research with Consumer Report which ranked it as one of the worst in repairs for all cars that year. In the 16 years and 95K miles I owned it, I had to replace the intake manifold gasket twice, the transmission mounts 3 times, the alternator 3 times, the air compressor and few other things once. Since I knew it was not great, I did not care as I did love the torque and engine sound. But saying it is not prone to repairs is just wrong. I am glad that you do not have problems, but it is NOT a reliable car.
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Originally posted by rotarygod
I don't think anyone that doesn't or wouldn't own a Camaro should ever say anything to a Camaro owner about reliability issues. ls1supersport knows if his car is reliable or not. He doesn't have to read anything.

Half of the people on the LS1 forum probably look at the RX-8 as just another slow rice car that floods all day. All they have to do is read the comments on this forum. Remember that the much larger more powerful LS1 in the Camaro/Vette will kick the crap out of the RX-8 in the gas mileage and power department all day every day. It suddenly isn't as funny when the tides are turned on your car is it? It is just an opinion, yours. It doesn't make it fact or anyone elses opinion. did it ever occur to you that Chevy didn't design the Camaro the same as the RX-8? If they had, there wouldn't be a solid rear axle. Different cars, different goals. The Camaro is a car that resembles the muscle car age and there is still a much larger Camaro following than there is rotary following in this country.

Motorcycles in general are not more prone to accident but some of their riders are. I'm a Harley person myself and like to cruise around. I am absolutely against the crotch rocket crowd since they are a majority of the motorcycle accidents on the road. To me they are the ricers in terms of attitude of the motorcycle world. I'm not saying I don't like the bikes. They are technological wonders but most of their owners lack the ability to drive sincerely and with regards to the general public. Comparing a crotchrocket to a street car is like comparing a Cessna to the SR-71 or a Festiva to a top fuel dragster. It is an absolutely ridiculous comparison. Go race a Formula 1 car on them and see what happens. Another stupid comparison.
If you say so boss,
Read consumer reports, much worse than average. It's a dinosore car. Far from modern sportscars. My bike is not a crotch rocket. It weighs 850lbs and is a full blown cruiser, 100 hp and will kick most cars ***. Even so I usually will not take a challenge. Usually its the highpower vettes and firebirds that try me.
Tell me you did'nt say the LS1 is an economy car with admirable gas mileage (LOL)
Do you really think us rx8 owners are into dragracing those sort of cars. The 8 is not a stoplight pavement burner. Why would I even try?
After owning a 85 Transam 305 (BLOWN ENGINE AT 35K) and piece of junk in the shop all the time Iroc z28, I have no use for talk about the merits of the brand or model to which you refer.
GM can kiss my ***. I got burnt twice. Never again.
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