Ah, I retract my statement then, I had a previous discussion with someone about putting in a super short rear end with a super tall 6th and that was the response they gave me.

 

volume could be the same, but profit margin is MUCH different. + the exchange rate problem, those ... are not helping Mazda much

 

I just paid $4.059 a gallon for Premium here in Phoenix.

 

The scale of Mazda's problems...

Mazda - $1.29 billion corporate loss for the most recent fiscal YEAR, 2011.
BMW Group - net profit totalled roughly 1.1 billion euros ($1.46652 billion) for the 3rd QUARTER of 2011.

IOW BMW makes more in one quarter than Mazda's loss in one year.

 

since this thread is all over the place here is what I got from Mazda on Facebook.. disregard the dude who posted under me, he is a moron.

Robert Swiercz-Alright Mazda.. I need some Rotary News please!!!!!!
Like · · 5 hours ago

Dominic Roussel-Malo The rotary engine isn't being made anymore, and most likely will never reappear on the market.
5 hours ago · Like

Mazda Canada Hi Robert & Dominic -- rotary is part of our DNA, so even though we do not have a rotary vehicle in our current line-up, we ARE working on the the next generation of rotary!
2 hours ago · Like

Dominic Roussel-Malo Ill take you guys word for it then! Looking forward to the SkyActiv Diesel...
2 hours ago · Like · 1

Robert Swiercz Fantastic cause my current rx8 needs a friend..
2 hours ago · Like · 1

Robert Swiercz Is there any time frame.. cause I rather Mazda take their time and get it done right. Since Ford isn't on their back anymore to push it out to early.
2 hours ago · Like

Kevin Graham This just in......... The Rotary is actaully a Wankle Rotary Engine....LOL
about an hour ago · Like · 1

Mazda Canada Hi Kevin - yes, you are right of course -- thanks for the technical correction! :D
about an hour ago · Like

Mazda Canada Hi Robert - we are. Just like SkyActiv, we want to make sure that our next (Wankel) rotary is not just evolutionary, but revolutionary -- so you are right -- it will take a bit longer. But when it arrives, we promise it will be worth the wait! Thanks for being such a passionate Mazda fan -- we really appreciate it! :D
about an hour ago · Like

 

I guess a facebook post is all the proof we need....

<<Find the sarcasm. Go ahead. I dare you.

 

lol, now is that sarcasm.. cause what he said got me excited

 

Just be cautious and keep it in the context that it is. Someone in Mazda at a keyboard, probably in Marketing or Customer relations (two departments run on the principle of telling people what they want to hear) that is probably more likely to be a peon than a senior director (and thus more likely to not be told everything. Senior directors do not hang around on facebook in a corporation) and could easily have it wrong from ignorance or falsehood.


Oh I want it too. But until production or rotary development abandonment is announced officially, I don't hang my hat on anything good or bad.

 

i can see your point, However i will continue letting them give me potential falsified information, just so I can feel better lol

 

Good thing I only have 14 mile round trip for work :D

 

That Facebook post says nothing, except don't give up. Nothing we haven't heard before.

 

http://wardsauto.com/vehicles-amp-te...otary-new-life

A grain of salt must still season this, but just as the piston advanced, so will the rotary. Anyone that thinks that the current iteration is the best rotary the world has to offer just has blinders on.

 

He's hopeful at least, but this idea is, according to him, unproven, as he doesn't say it "is so", but only "if so", so needs testing. After nearly a decade since the RENESIS developement, and assuming they've been working ever since then to solve the efficiency problem, that certainly would be a breakthrough of major, no strike that, EPIC proportions!

 

Agreed, it is a statement of "we found something that we need to test to see if it's true".

 

bah, I want a new rotary now lol

 

With gas going up to $5 a gallon, there is going to be a lot more than a Rotary in trouble. It is all part of the plan for a "cleaner greener" Earth says the Gov't. Trying to force alternative fuel exploration. Unfortunately, I think it's just going to **** a lot of people off instead.

 

If you think $5 gas has anything to do with the green economy, you need a lesson in market economics, specifically how oil prices are set. But you're welcome to believe in paranoid conspiracy theories, if it makes you feel better to "blame" than to understand the problem.

 

R0tary itz n0 m0r? 5 d00lla gaz me y0 g0t civic vtec just kicKeD in y0

 

No man. Rotary is dead. DEAD! Cuz what we are seeing now ismthe best rotary engine can do!

 

True.


But then the VFAD kicked in yo!

 

I wasn't blaming anyone, I would like to hear your opinion on why there is nothing we can do to stop the price of gas going up. I am guessing from your response that we as a country have no control of oil due to worldwide consumption. Explain

 

Obviously, there more to it than a couple sentences can covey, but briefly crude prices, local and federal taxes, refinery costs, delivery costs and any other markups help set the local price of gasoline where you live. Crude is not one item, but a variety of products, each with a different market and price depending. So even crude really doesn't have a single price.

Some of these factors are under our control as a country, other not so much.

I like this graphic although it is incomplete...



So in an open market the price of the next barrel of oil sold is set by the previous barrel sold, so spot prices go up and down according to demand. But most large producers/users have a negotiated contract to sell/purchase at a fixed 'other' price at a future date (oil futures contracts > which affect the gas futures contract) and do not pay spot market price. That could be higher or lower than market price at delivery. Hedging (another cost) is used to buffer those market price flucuations on both sides of the contract equation. It's basically insurance againt the market price changes. Because no one is going to sell you spot oil/gas cheaper than they can sell to someone else if they have a choice. That's why oil is sold/shipped all over the world and oil futures contracts are made and fullfilled daily.
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i.e. you say "It is part of a plan" by our government to "force" alternative energy exploration that will "**** people off." Dunno, but that sure sound like blame to me?

I'd venture it's simply market forces at work with an aim, (and yes sometimes incentives are involved - both for oil companies and 'green' energy companies), to try and stabilize energy prices within our the country. If there's any way to produce energy that is cost equivalent to oil, someone's going to try it. There no guarantee of success doing it, but certainly - if you don't try, you're stuck with the status quo. Alternatively, if anyone succeeds, supply of energy (maybe gasoline from algae, for example) I'd certainly want to try if I had any thought that I could succeed! So if there is anything our country can do to affect energy pricies, and that could give more control than chasing an ever more expensive suppy of crude, halaluya.

 

We're getting too close to this being political with that statement.

 

Guys, I'm sorry, I got a little emotional. Guess I should have asked my wife, she's the Economics Major. Didn't mean to wax politics on here. I do agree with what Spin9k response was, and what is coming is inevitable. I just started running off at the mouth/key (I do that a lot). I guess we all need to brace for what's coming. I will still drive my rotary through it all, I might be big dumb jock, but I'm not a *****!

 

Without getting into a long drawn out explanation of economics. One way to decrease oil prices and subsequently everything else that uses oil in the production process is for the feds to increase interest rates.