TALAN7

With gas going up to what's supposed to be $5 per gallon, I think it may be a while before we see another rotary from Mazda.

I drive about 70 miles roundtrip to work daily. This car is killing me with this terrible mileage. I love the 8 but I may have to trade her in if gas goes up past $4.50 gallon. I coulkd save hundreds of dollars per month if I bought an econobox. The next rotary would have to be putting out at least 10 more miles per gallon city for me to be interested.

alnielsen

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The next gen rotary engine with direct injection should improve the mileage and make it more palatable.
I now daily drive a Jeep with a straight six. The people on that forum complains about the mileage. It gets slightly better than the 8 and it has a bigger gas tank.

RIWWP

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Title fixed.



$5 / gallon doesn't mean "death to the rotary" any more than it means "death to supercars, trucks, and suvs". "Oh, but there is a difference!" you say? Well I don't see one. The people that can afford X mileage will pay for X mileage. Whether that is 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, or 100mpg. If you can only afford 40mpg, then I guess that is what you are driving. If someone else can afford 20, they they can drive that. If someone else can afford 5,... see how it goes?

Don't get me wrong. While living here at my last job I only had to drive ~7,000 miles annually, and the gas mileage was easily livable. My new job will mean closer to 25,000 annually and it becomes a more significant issue. I am adjusting my car selection to match. I refuse to be bored though, so I'm only going up to a ~28-30mpg NC Miata.

No big deal

Sway

Personally I knew what I was getting into when I bought the car. That's why I did my RESEARCH when looking for another car. Gas prices go up and down all the time and I'm well aware that the war overseas is def not going to lower gas prices anytime soon.
I'll still drive her even if it gets up to $4.50!

200.mph

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a few years ago gas was $5 a gallon for super and i still paid it. i have a 40mile round trip to work but my 8 is my toy car. my truck (94 f150 straight 6 winter/work truck) gets worse mpg than my 8. my subie gets great mpg but its the gfs car who works 10 miles from home. i guess its what you can afford. if i could get a 458 italia i would not bitch about mpg but than again if that were the case money wouldnt be a problem

Speed_8

^ alot of people did to their RESEARCH, when they bought their cars 5 years ago when gas was 2 some a gallon

RIWWP

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A car has a cost of ownership. One of the factors in this cost of ownership is the cost of gas for your driving.

I don't care what car you pick, this is still true. If the price of gas prices you out of the market for an 8, then it does so. Just because it's a flexible number based on many factors doesn't mean that it has any less relevancy than the original purchase price or the insurance cost.

nycgps

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I understand talon, nj and nyc have the shittest traffic outa the whole country. But it all comes down to pay to play.

I work as a livery driver now(cant find any IT job these days thats over 15 bux an hour) an dcompare my sonata hybrid, the 8's mpg is horrible. But couple years ago when gas was 5 bux a gallon i still drove 13k miles a year. Does it hurt? Hell yea, but the 8 gives me that smile on my face and nothing can replace that.

TALAN7

When I purchased my 8, almost 9 years ago, the cost of gas was so low it wasn't a factor. 9 years later gas has gone up tremendously. Pay to play? Mazda doesn't have that mentality. When the average v8 gets much better mileage than the RX8 and makes over twice the power it doesn't bode well for the rotary. That's what I'm saying.

RIWWP

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I wasn't referring to Mazda. I was referring to YOU

You can afford X. You can't afford X + 1. If the price of gas moves you from X to X+1, you can no longer afford to keep whatever car. This has NOTHING to do with the rotary. It's simple finances and economics. Jeep, pickup truck, and SUV owners have had the exact same thing over the past several years. So there is a different shape to the metal that is sitting on the four wheels and powered by a little spinning bit that differs from other pumping bits under other different shapes. Doesn't change the story at all.

...same story the haters have been saying for almost a decade. So what?

Pendleton

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But since you own your car (I assume you're not making payments after 9 years), you won't be saving much of anything. Your new monthly payment would likely be more than the gas savings. And if you are lucky enough to be able to plunk down cash for the car, you are out that amount of cash which could be invested somewhere profitable. Unless of course you are really lucky enough to get a great trade in and end up owing hardly anything on the econobox...then you might actually come out ahead.

bose

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Gasoline was more expensive in the summer of '08 (or was it '09) it's a non issue for me, I have a beater for daily.

R80MAV

its $9.50 (£6) a gallon over here, you guys have got it easy

Atilla

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I'm in Southern California...

I'm lookin' at $5 a gallon...and tbh, I don't give a ****. The last time prices went up this high a couple years back...

...i got a better paying job

nycgps

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If gas price is hurting u then you should consider to trade the 8 in or sell it or part out whatever amd get a new ride.

If u drive a lot You will be able to recoupe the cost fairly quicky.

I trade the cx-7 for the sonata hybrid, so i end up paying another 15 k or so. But i drive about 100-200 CITY miles everyday. After all the mah i should be able to recoupe the cost in a year something 2

04Green

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Look at it this way, my paid off SUV costs me $150 a month in fuel. There is nothing I can buy that will come close to replacing it, even if the gas was free. The 8 is closer to $200 a month in fuel, same deal. A 20% increase in gas does not change that equation at all. Take into account the safety stats on the two, and there is no competition.

ShinkaEvo

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I'm sure ppl would love to pay extra $400 each month to get a hybrid to save few bucks on gas. lol

pistonhater

It's already $4.50 in many parts of NY.

But I don't daily drive the 8, so I'm ok with it.

My daily driver is a lifted Toyota truck with heavy armor and big tires, still gets better MPG than the 8, lol

Are-Ex-Eight

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110 miles a day here. Go go bank account reserves!

TALAN7

I was referring to Mazda. I wouldn't think Mazda or any other car manufacturer has a pay to play mentality when it comes to their cars. My point is, they're going to have a hell of a time greenlighting another rotary let alone selling one profitably now that mileage has become such an issue. Especially with the mileage it gets.

Regarding jeeps and suvs in general. I see a lot of used car lots full of them that can't be moved and I bet the people who have them aren't happy with the mileage. I do know 1 thing. The newer cars and suvs coming out now have much better mileage than just a few years ago.

HiFlite999

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I most enjoyed my cars when I could walk to work. A close second-best is the 3 mile, 20 minute, car/bus/bicycle commute I have now - by intention. I like cars too much to have that ruined by a miserable daily commute. The 30 mpg, 13 year old Toyota is a fine DD beater without having to pay for collision insurance. Careful driving/tuning on the RX-8 gives me an average of 22 mpg. No way a new 40 mpg car will save me much money over the Toy/RX combo. Of course, many are stuck with a long commute, so what makes sense for me, may not make sense for others. I'm fine with $5/gallon => leaves me with more open roads. YMMV.

RIWWP

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Again, I wasn't referring to Mazda, I was referring to YOU. Or whoever else actually owns a car. You have to pay to drive. It's a simple fact. What you can afford to pay will dictate your car selection. If you want something funner, it WILL cost you "more". Either in car price, insurance price, gas price, repairs, etc... It doesn't matter who makes the car, or what the car is.

*'more' meaning more than a roughly equivalent econo box.


If all you are doing is complaining that the 8 isn't fantastic on gas, then all you are doing is repeating the same old complaint ad'nauseum. If you don't like it, get another car. If you don't care, have fun with what you got. End of story.

neit_jnf

death to the suv? truck? jeep? luxury v8? etc etc?

TALAN7

Again, if you had truly read my post and hadn't started your bitchin you would have read that I posed the question whether we'd see another rotary in this climate. The mantra of the day that's not going away is efficiency/good gas mileage. The 8 isn't a Ferrari, ie the average owner isn't rich. How is Mazda going to sell any iteration of the rotary unless they can solve the poor gas mileage and as you say, What you can afford to pay will dictate your car selection. I find it hard to see the rotary in the cards in the future.

RIWWP

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Hmm. Did I really miss that?

...um, nope, not in there...
...not in there either....
...and still nothing here.



All I see is you complaining about the mileage of a car that isn't produced any longer.