Flooded my Baby.
10-21-2003, 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by desmo996
Rob;
You're the MAN! Went home during my lunch break and tried it. It took 5 or 6 times, but finally got it started
. There was a huge cloud of black smoke, but the exhaust cleared within a minute. Do the spark plugs need to be changed after this incident? Any thoughts? Performance has not diminished, but I'm totally paranoid now and keep hearing things (Gremlins 
).
Rob;
You're the MAN! Went home during my lunch break and tried it. It took 5 or 6 times, but finally got it started
. There was a huge cloud of black smoke, but the exhaust cleared within a minute. Do the spark plugs need to be changed after this incident? Any thoughts? Performance has not diminished, but I'm totally paranoid now and keep hearing things (Gremlins ).
Sorry but I cant take credit. I dont even have my car yet. I think I read it on the Canadian(or oz) forum somewhere
(I get my car 2-4 weeks from now :bounce
10-21-2003, 05:44 AM
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I suspect starting a renesis after it floods will be a little harder than a regular 13b because of the side exhaust port. Just follow the same procedure that is used in the 2nd and 3rd gen RX-7 and you should be fine. It shouldn't be too flooded unless you kept cranking it. If that's the case you might have fouled up the spark plug and you'll have to clean them.. Good luck
10-21-2003, 06:38 AM
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desmo996,
What method did you eventually use that worked? Did you pull the fuse or use full throttle? I think I came pretty close a couple of times before I read about flooding on this forum. The engine had to turn over a few seconds but enventially started. I guess I was luckey.
What method did you eventually use that worked? Did you pull the fuse or use full throttle? I think I came pretty close a couple of times before I read about flooding on this forum. The engine had to turn over a few seconds but enventially started. I guess I was luckey.
10-21-2003, 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by JoeRX8ter
desmo996,
What method did you eventually use that worked? Did you pull the fuse or use full throttle? I think I came pretty close a couple of times before I read about flooding on this forum. The engine had to turn over a few seconds but enventially started. I guess I was luckey.
desmo996,
What method did you eventually use that worked? Did you pull the fuse or use full throttle? I think I came pretty close a couple of times before I read about flooding on this forum. The engine had to turn over a few seconds but enventially started. I guess I was luckey.
Originally posted by tribal azn2
how the hell do u guys manage to flood your engines.
how the hell do u guys manage to flood your engines.
10-21-2003, 07:20 AM
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cranking w/flooded rotary
I had 5 N/A RX-7s; of those, at least one was prone to flood - by memory I think it was my 1st GSL-SE, though I think it happened to the 2nd one a time or two as well. Advice then was same as now - crank with it floored for up to 10 seconds. Just have to watch the throttle when it starts - kinda have to let up quickly then.
10-21-2003, 07:50 AM
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(if someone has already typed this .... sorry... didnt have time to read the entire thread)
you're freaking out over nothing..........
this used to happen to me all the time with my 89-91 RX-7's.
Crank the engine with the throttle on max, then crank it with your foot off the gas.......... repeat until the car sputters to life, blows a bunch of smoke out the tailpipe and then drive it like a madman after it warms up.
Wouldn't hurt to run some fuel injector cleaner in it and then have the techs check the sparkplugs
you're freaking out over nothing..........
this used to happen to me all the time with my 89-91 RX-7's.
Crank the engine with the throttle on max, then crank it with your foot off the gas.......... repeat until the car sputters to life, blows a bunch of smoke out the tailpipe and then drive it like a madman after it warms up.
Wouldn't hurt to run some fuel injector cleaner in it and then have the techs check the sparkplugs
10-21-2003, 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by turbojeff
Sounds like most guys on here don't have much rotary history.
2nd gens, primarily the 86-88 cars are prone to flooding. In 89 Mazda changed the design so that when you floored the throttle it cut off the fuel.
3rd gens aren't as prone to flooding but they still do and when they flood they seem harder to get started in my experience. What do I know, I've only had 15 of them.
So it seems the RX8 floods too. No biggie, start it by flooring it OR tow starting (which is much more of a PIA). It also seems to help on the earlier cars to SLIGHTLY crack the throttle when cranking. Don't rev it up when it starts, just crank the throttle when it cranks, when it fires lift...
Racer X-8... Dude learn a little, tow starting the car won't hurt the motor, "grenade the chamber" LOL...
Sounds like most guys on here don't have much rotary history.
2nd gens, primarily the 86-88 cars are prone to flooding. In 89 Mazda changed the design so that when you floored the throttle it cut off the fuel.
3rd gens aren't as prone to flooding but they still do and when they flood they seem harder to get started in my experience. What do I know, I've only had 15 of them.
So it seems the RX8 floods too. No biggie, start it by flooring it OR tow starting (which is much more of a PIA). It also seems to help on the earlier cars to SLIGHTLY crack the throttle when cranking. Don't rev it up when it starts, just crank the throttle when it cranks, when it fires lift...
Racer X-8... Dude learn a little, tow starting the car won't hurt the motor, "grenade the chamber" LOL...
I was thinking that maybe there's liquid gas, trapped in there, in the compression stroke, keeping the starter motor from turning over the engine. So, the brute force of "tow starting" the engine might break something, like the apex seal maybe.
Maybe I can go to a forum or somewhere so I might learn something.
10-22-2003, 08:49 AM
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This is the usual method for starting most flooded engines. I've started many flooded two cycle boat engines this way. The full throttle, the cranking, and then the smoke. I was under the impression that flooded rotaries were a whole different story. Cool, I learned something. Thanks again to this forum for making me a little more knowledgable.
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