Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

my OEM bridgestones were crap.

Rotr8

iTrader: (2)

Indeed well said socket,,, I ve had several people that have been in my car with all the mods I have and say why is your car quieter than mine,,, then I look at thier factory rubber, point and laugh....
My vote,, tires, and AFE SS get ready for your car to feel newer than the day you got it,,, after that I hear research is ??? ohh yeah, free,,,

tibyABv6

How do they not add up? Stock is 180-185 hp, and with I/E 194 hp ...

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

you need to follow along a bit better.

nmarz said that intake / exhaust would add 10-20. Then he said that underdrive pulleys could get 10 to the wheels.
I just proved that similar cars with and without pulleys and midpipe do NOT differ in horsepower by 20 hp.

carkid

i appreciate all of your input guys. and yes, research is free, however i did do a lot of research and as you can see there are A LOT of mixed opinions out there, so there should be considering mods to a car can be somewhat or all according to personal preference. with my budget, and with a ms CAI for 200 at my disposal 20 minutes from me i think i will stick with that then go with an afe ss. when i bought the car last year i put potenzas on it (all weather) because it seemed the most efficient way to go and a family friend of mine recommended it (i had no knowledge of cars back then). i dont know what pulleys/midpipes etc. do yet. but im sure i will learn. i am still a bit of a newbie but i'm a quick learner. i will have many future questions to come is anyone here willing to lend me a sn or something for me to differ to when i might have any particulars in mind?

Rotr8

iTrader: (2)

cool ,,, good luck and take your time you dont need everything at once. Ive been building up my car over 4 years, doing things in stages allows you to enjoy each mod you do before the next... welcome to the addiction indeed...
Perhaps the next expenses you choose could wait til the spring there are plenty of meets and shows you can go to and talk to the owners about thier mods.

nmarz77

No Jedi actually you are the one that needs to read closer. I claimed that 10-20 HP to the wheels with EXHAUST AND INTAKE is not unreasonable. THEN I realized that maybe 20 is being a little dramatic and said that it is not unreasonable to get 20HP to the wheels if you also added a UNDERDRIVE(one that actually underdrives) AND A TUNE....AND A TUNE....AND A TUNE....AND A TUNE. Just wanted to make sure you read it completely this time young man. I never claimed an underdrive pulley alone would give you 10 to the wheels. 10 to the E shaft maybe.

THEN you go posting dynos of cars that have both INTAKE AND EXHAUST pumping out 195-200 HP. That totally backs up my claim and then some, since most stock RX8's don't even come CLOSE to that.

Now let's and make up and get on with helping this poor kid out.

carkid

i am the poor kid lol

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

where are those dynos you mentioned???
I posted dynos showing that a midpipe and underdrive pulleys added the WHOPPING 3hp.
you claimed they were good for 10. My example shows that they don't add even 10 to teh crank!

Either way, lets get back on the topic since you have nothing to back up your claims. Someone help this kid with mods.

nmarz77

For the record I never mentioned midpipe. I generally stated exhaust and intake set-up would net 10 to the wheels. And I don't need to post any dynos, you proved what I was saying all along with yours...

Are you good at taking tests?

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

lets try again since you're attempting to weasel your way out of what you said. You originally said 10-20, now you're trying to cling to the lower part of your range since it's become blatantly obvious that on an RX-8, 20 hp out of intake / exhaust is IMPOSSIBLE.
As for tests: I hate tests but I did breeze through my Series 7, 63, 24, and L&H. (to name a few)


"intake, exhaust, pulleys, and tuning = 20hp". right???
Where is proof of your claims? I posted proof that pulles do NOTHING to a car, where is your proof that they even add 10? I have a dyno from that same day with a car that had pulleys, intake, exhaust AND RAcing Beat Flash. Would you like to see it? (trust me, you don't. It will only make you look worse)

Lets remember: you were the first to make hp claims and you were the first to mention dynos.

Seeing as how you're a former Porsch tech, maybe pulleys did in fact help those cars out but that is not the case with our cars. It is obvious that the OP knows very little regarding our cars, the least you can do is not steer him down the wrong path at such an early stage.

nmarz77

Dude, I'm done with your little pissing match. I never claimed 10HP out of pulleys alone. Why do you keep stating that? I'm not trying to weasle my way out of anything. Anyone who goes back and reads my origional posts will understand what I was saying.

I'm surprised you passed any tests since you have failed at reading what I have written correctly over and over again.

Oh and it's spelled Porsche with an E at the end......and yes you DO pronounce the E in case anyone was wondering. lol

nvrfalter

iTrader: (1)

STOP IT AT ONCE. neither of you are helping anyone anymore. just let it friggin go.

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

Wow, after all this nonsense and all you have on me is a simple spelling error. You were proven wrong multiple times so you resort to that. Classic...

Here are your original posts.



Numerous people posted that 10-20 hp "to the wheels" (as you stated) was not possible so then you added the bit about pulleys and tuning. (the tuning was thrown in there as a last ditch resort since you obviously have no clue what you speak of)
You still have not shows us ANY proof of these claims.



I am done proving you wrong. Lets get back to the original topic

nmarz77

Wow Jedi, you have issues. Okay, I'm oh so wrong....feel better? Is that what you need to hear to make yourself feel like a man?


Carkid, get the intake, you will be happy with it and it's a great price.

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

nmarz: You should read more of my posts if that is truly what you think of me.
I'm simply here trying to help out someone who admits he knows very little about his car and is looking for some advice.

I am here trying to help someone make an informed decision regarding his car, plain and simple. There is a lot of bad info that gets posted on car forums and I want to make sure the OP doesn't start modding his car with unreasonable expectations of future performance.

newguy

tires make the most diff in handling check out some bfg kdw2s or yoko advans

nmarz77

Whatever, that's cool.

kersh4w

iTrader: (3)

jedi, you're a bit off in yor logic. mods arent about what your car compares to others, but rather what your baseline horsepower is and how much your mods improved.

lets say you have a 195whp stock rx8. congrats. but to then say a rx8 with a 197whp with race pipe, ap, intake, and exhaust, all are pretty worthless mods because they amount to a whopping 2whp is just not clear thinking. that rx8 may have started out with 170whp, that means those mods ended up adding 27whp, and thats no joke by any means.

nmarz77

Off Topic: Newguy that is a badddd assss Talon you have on your car domain page.

carkid

forgot to mention, i tinted my headlights on saturday i think they look pretty good, headlights are still almost just as bright. should i post a pic?

carkid

another thing i did was install a switch for my footwell lights above the coin holder, i can post a pic of that too

nmarz77

Cool, would love to see a pic. What method did you use to tint them?

carkid

i bought a pre-cut tint online and then i followed the instructions lol. soap and water to clean the headlights. put them on, used an index card to get all the bubbles out, then slowly took a dryer to the entire thing and made sure all the edges folded in. took about half an hour

nmarz77

Cool. Did it come out okay? I read a few people's posts and they said it was a PITA.