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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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well you just missed out on a good deal in the FS section, SS for 200$
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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I would go with the MS intake. People on here keep complaining that Intake and Exhaust do nothing, yet there are dynos that people post with these mods putting down 10-20 more HP than a stock vehicle averages. Thats 10-20HP to the wheels folks! Let's not forget that. That's .1 to .2 tenths and a couple car lengths in the quarter, or maybe even more on your favorite track. And races are won by seconds not minutes.....well usually. lol
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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grab a racing beat exhaust and make the car sound how it shouldve from the factory
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nmarz77
I would go with the MS intake. People on here keep complaining that Intake and Exhaust do nothing, yet there are dynos that people post with these mods putting down 10-20 more HP than a stock vehicle averages. Thats 10-20HP to the wheels folks! Let's not forget that. That's .1 to .2 tenths and a couple car lengths in the quarter, or maybe even more on your favorite track. And races are won by seconds not minutes.....well usually. lol
sorry but no one here is getting 20hp to the WHEELS because of an intake. Thats absolutely not true.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
sorry but no one here is getting 20hp to the WHEELS because of an intake. Thats absolutely not true.
Intake and Exhasut wont get 10-20 whp
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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^^^ it will get 10-30 hp on the intake and exhaust...on the butt dyno!!!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nmarz77
I would go with the MS intake. People on here keep complaining that Intake and Exhaust do nothing, yet there are dynos that people post with these mods putting down 10-20 more HP than a stock vehicle averages. Thats 10-20HP to the wheels folks! Let's not forget that. That's .1 to .2 tenths and a couple car lengths in the quarter, or maybe even more on your favorite track. And races are won by seconds not minutes.....well usually. lol
tiss tiss with a lil over 300 post you should know better...
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Ok ok maybe you need to throw in a underdrive pulley and tune to get the 20+ HP but 10 HP to the wheels is not unrealistic.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nmarz77
Ok ok maybe you need to throw in a underdrive pulley and tune to get the 20+ HP but 10 HP to the wheels is not unrealistic.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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What? Shall we start searching for dyno sheets? Flame on if you like!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Lets do it. I'll start....


Here is a car with 200hp. As you can see by the mod list, he has no cat and underdrive pulleys.




Lets compare that to a car WITH a cat and NO pulleys. (just intake / exhaust mods)




Where do you see a 10 - 20 horsepower difference??
Note that my dynos were done on the SAME DAY on the SAME dyno, by the SAME tech.
I await proof of YOUR claims...
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nicely done jedi!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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I reccommed an exhaust to start makes a good tone....midpipe will make it louder(prob what i'm doin next my exhaust is a little too quiet at idle) Intakes i personally would do the DIY on the stock intake box because it is free.....SC or Turbo is always nice but i would get used to the car before you do something drastic like that
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nmarz77
I would go with the MS intake. People on here keep complaining that Intake and Exhaust do nothing, yet there are dynos that people post with these mods putting down 10-20 more HP than a stock vehicle averages. Thats 10-20HP to the wheels folks! Let's not forget that. That's .1 to .2 tenths and a couple car lengths in the quarter, or maybe even more on your favorite track. And races are won by seconds not minutes.....well usually. lol
Originally Posted by nmarz77
Ok ok maybe you need to throw in a underdrive pulley and tune to get the 20+ HP but 10 HP to the wheels is not unrealistic.
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What? Shall we start searching for dyno sheets? Flame on if you like!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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3hp 10hp pretty much the same thing...
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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hahahah^^^^^^
its not the same!!!!!!....its like saying gaining 30 hp NA to a turbo that gives 90 hp is the same thing
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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AFE shifter, and TIRES

BUY GOOD TIRES.

Why does nobody ever mention tires? People will winge on and on about the merits of strut bars and coilovers; then they go buy cheap ***-tires and wonder why their thousands of dollars of suspension mods aren't making their car handle better.

Your tires are the only part of the car that touch the road. Don't be a cheapskate when it comes to them. Going from the stock 225/45/18 potenza's to Falken RT-615's in a 145/40/18 made a huge difference in how confident I was in the car's ability to handle. It sticks to the road like glue now.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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^that is true!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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In case you want to argue that the 197 hp car was a fluke, I present to you even more dyno sheets.


Here's a 196 hp car with no pulleys and no midpipe
This was also done on the same day as the other 2 cars.


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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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194 HP with no pulleys or midpipe. Again, this is only 6 hp away from a car with BOTH midpipe AND pulleys. As you can see, those two mods do not add 10-20 hp. (as you claimed earlier)


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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by greg985
3hp 10hp pretty much the same thing...
To a butt dyno, sure.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Socket7
AFE shifter, and TIRES

BUY GOOD TIRES.

Why does nobody ever mention tires? People will winge on and on about the merits of strut bars and coilovers; then they go buy cheap ***-tires and wonder why their thousands of dollars of suspension mods aren't making their car handle better.

Your tires are the only part of the car that touch the road. Don't be a cheapskate when it comes to them. Going from the stock 225/45/18 potenza's to Falken RT-615's in a 145/40/18 made a huge difference in how confident I was in the car's ability to handle. It sticks to the road like glue now.
145/40/18? u meant 245 right?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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I rest my case.
Moving back to the original topic, Socket brings up an excellent point. If you've had your car for a while and the tires are getting worn out, GOOD TIRES are one of the best things you can buy.

Are there "flashier" mods out there? Yes.
Are there appearance mods that would stand out more? YES

BUT, at the end of the day this is a car that was designed around handling / performance. If you deviate from that by slapping on another set of cheap Bridgestones (or worse) you are throwing away your money and hurting your car.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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how do the bridgestones compare to the dunlops?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
145/40/18? u meant 245 right?
No. I'm trying something new right now. I've put motorcycle wheels on my car to see if i pick up some extra acceleration.

yeah, i meant 245
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