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12-16-2005, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
I think you have overlooked the fact that some of us have heard the same complaint for three winter seasons now, and while the frequency has decreased tremendously, it just seems silly to whine about something Mazda has obviously been working through for many, many years. After all the complaints about the 3rd gen RX7, especially here in the states, I'm just happy as hell there's a rotary on the market again at all, and can happily live with it's few little quirks.
I'm new to the club, and while I did due diligence and research before buying my 8, I am only now really getting intimately familiar with all the aspects of my car, highs and lows.
12-16-2005, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RotoRocket
I understand that some of the elders here have heard this many times, and that it can be annoying.
I'm new to the club, and while I did due diligence and research before buying my 8, I am only now really getting intimately familiar with all the aspects of my car, highs and lows.
I'm new to the club, and while I did due diligence and research before buying my 8, I am only now really getting intimately familiar with all the aspects of my car, highs and lows.
Fair enough- there are literally hundreds of threads discussing "flooding" on this board... maybe a thousand. My advice is not to worry about something that probably won't affect you (it's entirely eliminated if you let it warm up everytime, and greatly mitigated by the ECU flash released last year), and enjoy your new 8 for its other 99% great aspects.
12-16-2005, 07:40 PM
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My ex bf said that they serviced it and I wouldn't have to worry about flooding any more. I've never flooded it and never shut it down cold, but can mine still flood?
He is history and I'm not sure what maintenance has been done and what hasn't.
He is history and I'm not sure what maintenance has been done and what hasn't.
12-16-2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
they should find a supplier for catalytic converters that can handle the higher heat that the rotary engine puts out, so mazda doesn't have to 'detune' their fuel map so the cat can last 100k miles, or whatever the feds mandate 
The problem is that there are simply not enough rotary engines on the road/in production to warrant a supplier developing a catalyst specifically for the rotary engine.
12-16-2005, 07:53 PM
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I have shut mine off cold and it has started up , never flooded it once . I try NOT to do it, but there has been a few times I HAD to and it started... like when I got my windows tinted last week , I'm sure it wasn't warm when they pulled it in . And it was 10 degrees outside, they had the car for 4 hours....Not a issue unless you make it a issue.
12-16-2005, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by becknbill
My ex bf said that they serviced it and I wouldn't have to worry about flooding any more. I've never flooded it and never shut it down cold, but can mine still flood?
He is history and I'm not sure what maintenance has been done and what hasn't.
He is history and I'm not sure what maintenance has been done and what hasn't.
12-16-2005, 08:13 PM
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I think it's funny, you mention something you consider a drawback to the 8 and it's like you insulted everyone's mother 
But the reason for that is they love the car so much they'll defend it no matter the drawsback that were being discussed and make it boil down to "dude, it's a sports car, you shouldn't buy it if you were worried about the gas mileage. " Or the car is about the all around driving experience not just hp numbers when others say that feel disappointed in that category. They love it so much they look past the drawbacks but call you out when you don't do the same. I'll probably be one of them eventually (but won't be as voval as some about it) since the more I get to driver ours, the more I love the more refined areas this car provides and damn it handles nicely.
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But the reason for that is they love the car so much they'll defend it no matter the drawsback that were being discussed and make it boil down to "dude, it's a sports car, you shouldn't buy it if you were worried about the gas mileage. " Or the car is about the all around driving experience not just hp numbers when others say that feel disappointed in that category. They love it so much they look past the drawbacks but call you out when you don't do the same. I'll probably be one of them eventually (but won't be as voval as some about it) since the more I get to driver ours, the more I love the more refined areas this car provides and damn it handles nicely.Tim
12-16-2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DrRockin99
... like when I got my windows tinted last week , I'm sure it wasn't warm when they pulled it in . And it was 10 degrees outside, they had the car for 4 hours....Not a issue unless you make it a issue.
12-16-2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8Sick
4 hours on tint? must be a busy location. I was in and out in 20 minutes. 20% thing all round for $89
12-16-2005, 08:45 PM
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I am not part of the "collective plea" as I know how to read and follow directions. The Renesis is getting a bad, undeserved rap on this forum. Flooding just doesn't happen that much.
12-16-2005, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by becknbill
My ex bf said that they serviced it and I wouldn't have to worry about flooding any more. I've never flooded it and never shut it down cold, but can mine still flood?
He is history and I'm not sure what maintenance has been done and what hasn't.
He is history and I'm not sure what maintenance has been done and what hasn't.
please sell the car. no offense but this is not a car for someone who is going to rely on others to remember about maintenance. when did you last check the oil?
12-16-2005, 10:01 PM
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I've never flooded mine in nearly a year and a half, 12k miles. Seeing where the preliminary flyer said that premium is required and the manual states that premium is recommended makes me wonder if running lower octane fuel raises the possibility of flooding. I've only ran 91 octane in mine. I'm not very knowledgable in that area, so I could be way off base.
12-16-2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveBlues
I've never flooded mine in nearly a year and a half, 12k miles. Seeing where the preliminary flyer said that premium is required and the manual states that premium is recommended makes me wonder if running lower octane fuel raises the possibility of flooding. I've only ran 91 octane in mine. I'm not very knowledgable in that area, so I could be way off base.
12-16-2005, 11:54 PM
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Well, it certainly would be nice to have the problem completely fixed. I've never had a flood, and I follow the procedures and don't expect to ever have a flood--myself. But I would have to say that the worst thing about this car is when you are forced to give it over to some valet guy or something, and you really don't trust that THEY will do all the right things and not flood it.
12-17-2005, 12:05 AM
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forget flooding, when they trying to put your car in reverse and they dont know that you got press the stick down. i cough a guy doin that i told him he got mad, so i told the manager if i can park my car they said no so i left.
12-17-2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Krankor
Thank you, that's the first time I've seen someone explain the "why" of the flooding thing. Care to take it one step further? What is it about being cold that makes flooding a problem? Why is it perfectly ok when warm?
its during this initial phase, when extra gas is being pumped in to sustain the higher rpm that the flooding typically occurs. the reason that the manual states to hold the rpms at 3k for 10 seconds is because the longer the engine runs, the warmer it gets (because high rpm produce higher combustion/exhaust temperatures), and the lower the "idle" rpm becomes. so, after 10 seconds of holding the rpms at 3k, the idle rpm has dropped to far enough below this speed so that when you release the throttle, the ecu switches into DFCO (deceleration fuel cut off) and actually stops injecting fuel into the combustion chamber. when you shut the engine off while the engine is spinning down, it cuts the fuel delivery and helps to expell any excess gas that is left in the combustion chamber.
at least, that's how that i understand it. if i'm wrong, someone more knowledgable than me will correct me
12-17-2005, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by knight7
forget flooding, when they trying to put your car in reverse and they dont know that you got press the stick down. i cough a guy doin that i told him he got mad, so i told the manager if i can park my car they said no so i left.
12-17-2005, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Sounds like a real quality job!
http://www.geocities.com/emapeter/tintrx8.jpg
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