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Old 03-30-2006, 12:55 AM
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bump...argh...

I did a search on this...not too many results...

And I really don't have the patience to go see the dealer, AND to explain to them, because it only really seems to happen under hard acceleration. I also haven't been worried too much about it, because again, it only happens sometimes, and it doesn't sound like anything 'significant' because there's no loss in power (i held up with mustangs, if that serves as proof)

/end rant, bleh, I need sleep
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Tried it out this morning...I get the rattle around 8000 rpms.

Anyone?
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Well, at least its not losing any power and it seems that a few people have the same problem (if it is a problem). Like someone said, it could be the air flow. Either way, I know that a dealer here will be hesitant to fix somethng that you can barely feel or see. I'm not too worried about it cuz I accelerate slowly through the RPMs and then do it again faster, I don't hear it. Strange.
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Could be pinging. Using premium gas?

True story: I owned an older Mustang that ONLY ran on premium. If I put any lower octane in it would ping like crazy. Every so often I would buy premium gas and the engine would ping. This told me that the gas station was "watering down" its premium with regular - crooks.
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Went to the dealership...they said it could be the gas I'm getting from my particular gas station, and to empty the tank out and try 2 tanks from a better gas station they recommended (mobil), and see how that works out. They said even though it's 93 octane, it could still be bad gas.

They had the same problem with another rx8 in the area, and they drained the tank, put it premium gas and it was fine.

Watering down their premium? Interesting.
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So does yours sound like paper rattling? That's the best metaphor that I can think of cuz its not as loud as marbles in a blender. Anyway, thank for the info!!
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paper crumbling, yea kinda
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Does it sound like fighting racoons???
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(posted by SlowLude) "I'm not too worried about it cuz I accelerate slowly through the RPMs and then do it again faster, I don't hear it. Strange."

Yep, mine exhibits the same behavior. If I romp on it, (and hear the rattle)
then later in the drive romp on it again, the rattle diminishes or disappears.

Maybe the PCM retards the timing from the onset of pinging until the drivers foot gets lazy again for a period of time. However, I don't care for the noise at all, and probably either does the engine!
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Originally Posted by Cool-Blue-Dad
Paper rustling? From under the hood. Hmmm, never had that. I did have a terrible rattle that sounded partially like paper rustling, partially like something slapping the passenger side of the car. Turned out the moonroof wind deflector was loose and rattling. Scratched a horrible wide horseshoe into my roof.


SlowLude, you're getting this sound with or without a CEL? Real detonation ought to throw a CEL.
Glad someone finally mentioned CEL. I've been hunting around looking for some info on this. I drove up to Norwich NY from Allentown yesterday and decided to try some hard accelerationons on the tpike. I got it up to about 110mph when I heard/felt "clatter" under the hood. Almost sounded like it traveled back and fourth under the hood too. The CEL flashed a few times, then it all went away. I couldn't get it to do it again. I was thinking of taking it into the dealership to see if it recorded something and if it could be diagnosed. It had about 1400 miles on the odometer when it happened. I'd been driving for a couple of hours at 80-90 steady. Think this a problem?
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
bump...argh...

I did a search on this...not too many results...

And I really don't have the patience to go see the dealer, AND to explain to them, because it only really seems to happen under hard acceleration. I also haven't been worried too much about it, because again, it only happens sometimes, and it doesn't sound like anything 'significant' because there's no loss in power (i held up with mustangs, if that serves as proof)

/end rant, bleh, I need sleep
I feel the same. Did the search last night when I got home and, well, rattle doesn't really describe it. Still think its more like a "clatter". I didn't feel any change in power, felt/heard the noise: most unique, and then really focussed on the flashing CEL. Always use 93. Probably will take it in to the dealer and have them check, while they are removing the massive door ding I got on Saturday. Kill, kill, kill the guy who dinged my door! Argh...feel bad inside like puppy died. Kill, kill, kill the guy!
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Originally Posted by cbucalo
I feel the same. Did the search last night when I got home and, well, rattle doesn't really describe it. Still think its more like a "clatter". I didn't feel any change in power, felt/heard the noise: most unique, and then really focussed on the flashing CEL. Always use 93. Probably will take it in to the dealer and have them check, while they are removing the massive door ding I got on Saturday. Kill, kill, kill the guy who dinged my door! Argh...feel bad inside like puppy died. Kill, kill, kill the guy!
Sounds like the infamous random misfire. The dealer can pull the code and confirm. If that's what it is, they will likely replace the plugs and send you on your way.
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I think the dealer replaced them as part of the new car prep when I bought the car. Gonna check the paperwork. If they were changed, is this normal for new cars with 1400 miles on new plugs?


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