Notices
RX-8 Discussion General discussion about the RX-8 that doesn't fit in one of the specialty forums.

Engine cover: do you need to keep it on the engine?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 07-05-2008, 03:01 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ys2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Engine cover: do you need to keep it on the engine?

Is a plastic engine cover necessary to be kept on the engine? When I need to add oil in the engine occasionally, it is inconvenient to take it off each time. If the cover is for an aesthetic purpose only, I would like to keep it at home.
Old 07-05-2008, 03:20 AM
  #2  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
NgoRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CA, Rowland Hts.
Posts: 10,239
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
it supposedly helps the air flow, but can be left off no problem.

is it really that inconvenient to take 2 seconds to pop it out and set it aside?
Old 07-05-2008, 03:24 AM
  #3  
Club Marbles Member
 
Raptor2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 3,252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just a decoration.
Old 07-05-2008, 03:46 AM
  #4  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ys2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NgoRX8
it supposedly helps the air flow, but can be left off no problem.

is it really that inconvenient to take 2 seconds to pop it out and set it aside?
My RX8 is equipped with the K&N ram air package. So, one of the cover's clips has to get off the ram air's air box, which is a little tricky as I cannot simply yank it off (because that may broke off the air box). Instead, I have get my air under the cover to pop off that one clip to remove the cover.
Old 07-05-2008, 06:47 AM
  #5  
Registered
 
MazdaJeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 896
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To me, it's an extra 2.5 pounds.
Old 07-05-2008, 08:17 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
SonicSE3P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you don't leave it on your apex seal will break.
Old 07-05-2008, 08:19 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
SonicSE3P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BTW only the 3rd seal of the rear rotor. The cover pertains to that specific seal.
Old 07-05-2008, 09:06 AM
  #8  
Grasshopper
iTrader: (1)
 
Jon316G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Streetsboro, OH
Posts: 6,779
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 33 Posts
Good thing I read this... I always thought it was the 4th apex seal.
I was about to change out the seal for a cloth material that last longer.
Extra life is added to the seal by soaking it in Acetone or MEK.
Old 07-05-2008, 09:27 AM
  #9  
Registered
 
SilverEIGHT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Buford, GA USA
Posts: 4,866
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My cover has been off for 3 years. When you put the mazdaspeed strut tower on, you have to modify the cover if you want to leave it on and I'm not into messing with the OEM cover because I may want to take it back to stock when/if I sell. You will not have any problem removing it. Please ignore the negative comments. They make some people feel important.

SonicSE3P, great comments for your first and second post. You should be received well on here!

Last edited by SilverEIGHT; 07-05-2008 at 09:46 AM.
Old 07-05-2008, 10:10 AM
  #10  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ys2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SonicSE3P
If you don't leave it on your apex seal will break.
I was referring to the plastic engine cover thingy in the engine bay. I doubt there is any connection between the plastic engine cover and the apex seal. Or, does that engine cover actually have the mechanical purpose of protecting the apex seal?
Old 07-05-2008, 10:18 AM
  #11  
Registered
 
SilverEIGHT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Buford, GA USA
Posts: 4,866
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Ignore those comments, they are not really meant to be of help to you. They were for personal amusement of the poster.
Old 07-05-2008, 10:31 AM
  #12  
Grasshopper
iTrader: (1)
 
Jon316G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Streetsboro, OH
Posts: 6,779
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 33 Posts
Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
Ignore those comments, they are not really meant to be of help to you. They were for personal amusement of the poster.
And some people were born without a sense of humor... try not to take life so seriously.

ys2003: Some people like to have fun every now and then... but we wouldn't leave you with false information.
And don't take anything personally here, you'll do fine!
Old 07-05-2008, 12:08 PM
  #13  
Ahead of its time
iTrader: (2)
 
valpac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: GA
Posts: 1,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
decoration only? no. it is there for heat extraction and to protect the hood from said heat.
Old 07-05-2008, 02:07 PM
  #14  
Club Marbles Member
 
Raptor2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 3,252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah, since we've had so many cases of melting hoods lately.
Old 07-05-2008, 02:22 PM
  #15  
I zoom therefore I am.
 
laythor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 4,919
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Originally Posted by valpac
decoration only? no. it is there for heat extraction and to protect the hood from said heat.
I'd love to find out who told you that? The engine cover is for decoration, that's it. People will say it's used for:

1. air flow
2. heat
3. noise
4. dust

Weird thing is that nowhere in the owners manual, shop manual or any piece of paper from mazda does it say any of those things about the cover. Road and Track, Modified, Automobile, and a few other car magazines have all had articles about the proliferation of engine covers and why they feel they're silly and useless weight.

If you like a tidy looking engine bay, keep the cover. If you dont like having to take off the cover to inspect the engine of change the oil, leave it off.
Old 07-05-2008, 02:27 PM
  #16  
Administrator
iTrader: (7)
 
Jedi54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 22,396
Received 2,641 Likes on 1,889 Posts
Decoration.
Old 07-05-2008, 02:38 PM
  #17  
Doppelgänger
 
mysql's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,192
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Airflow sounds silly, but if you watch how the air is directed underhood, it might be feasible that it helps route the air to some degree.

With that said, your car will operate just fine without it.

Heat isn't a big deal, the underside of the hood has stuff to protect it.

I think the #1 reason is for decoration. Maybe airflow as #2.

It's not so good at dust since by that point any dust would be all over your engine and other parts under hood. Noise? It isn't going to do much for that either.
Old 07-05-2008, 02:40 PM
  #18  
I zoom therefore I am.
 
laythor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 4,919
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
If you look at the underside of the cover you'll see it's not really conductive to airflow.
Old 07-05-2008, 02:52 PM
  #19  
Enthusiast
 
AJ's Shinka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: LAS VEGAS
Posts: 1,145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
Ignore those comments, they are not really meant to be of help to you. They were for personal amusement of the poster.
As always good looking out Silver!
Old 07-05-2008, 02:53 PM
  #20  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
Vertigo-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Hilo, HI
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My understanding was the cover helps airflow by directing the air over the components under it, and then out toward the fender vents where hot air can flow back out. However if you're just sitting in traffic and not moving, it probably helps to cook your engine bay a bit more...
Old 07-05-2008, 04:09 PM
  #21  
Registered
 
Revvittupp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Owings Mills, near Baltimore MD
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mysql
Airflow sounds silly, but if you watch how the air is directed underhood, it might be feasible that it helps route the air to some degree.

With that said, your car will operate just fine without it.

Heat isn't a big deal, the underside of the hood has stuff to protect it.

I think the #1 reason is for decoration. Maybe airflow as #2.

It's not so good at dust since by that point any dust would be all over your engine and other parts under hood. Noise? It isn't going to do much for that either.
That is precisely correct. The underhood "blanket" is indeed a fire blanket, with low melting point plastic fasteners. It is also intended for sound deadening. That blanket is NOT window dressing, btu I'd be surprised if the engine cover was intended as anythign but a heat trapping decoration, which is why it sits in my garage.
Old 07-05-2008, 04:14 PM
  #22  
Drive it like u stole it!
iTrader: (2)
 
chancejat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: mobile, al
Posts: 1,050
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Vertigo-1
My understanding was the cover helps airflow by directing the air over the components under it, and then out toward the fender vents where hot air can flow back out. However if you're just sitting in traffic and not moving, it probably helps to cook your engine bay a bit more...
fender vents are also for decoration.....
Old 07-05-2008, 07:23 PM
  #23  
Rotary Powered Countryboy
 
04RX8man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 4,811
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Decoration but I leave mine on becuas it keeps my engine bay looking sleek....but the 2 seconds to add oil is worth the neat looking engine bay....
Old 07-05-2008, 07:47 PM
  #24  
Doppelgänger
 
mysql's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,192
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 04RX8man
Decoration but I leave mine on becuas it keeps my engine bay looking sleek....but the 2 seconds to add oil is worth the neat looking engine bay....
It looks way neater without it.
Attached Thumbnails Engine cover: do you need to keep it on the engine?-p1010383.jpg  
Old 07-05-2008, 07:59 PM
  #25  
He's as bad as Can
 
expo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, NJ
Posts: 4,309
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
These two threads might be of interest.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/rx8-seen-predator-96062/
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multimedia-photo-gallery-6/thermographic-pics-83423/


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Engine cover: do you need to keep it on the engine?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:04 PM.